It seems I have lost access to my Sect title with this title change, intentional?

-Raven

Actually, I'm not seeing the G'nar Peth tier 1 title.


> title pre list moonmage

The following titles of the Moonmage category are available to you:

Initiate Moon Mage, Apprentice Moon Mage, Journeyman Moon Mage, Moon Mage, Expert Moon Mage, Master Moon Mage, Grand Master Moon Mage, Soothsayer, Augur, Contemplator, Hypnotist, Traveler, Visionist, Mesmerist, Medium, Ascendant, Telepath, Illusionist, Novus, Fatebound, Fatalist, Auspex, Enthraller, Garden Seeker, Occultist, Mystic Artisan, Mathematician, Geometer, Dissident, Mystic Blade, Hex

> title pre choose moonmage g'nar pethian
I could not find that title.

> title pre choose sect g'nar pethian
I could not find that category.

I can get the title set if I go back to the tent.

> ask prophet about title
A blind prophet leans close and speaks to you. "I can offer you the title of 'G'nar Pethian Itron Spelluck of the Prophets' for your outstanding efforts as a representative of this sect. All you must do is ask me again, and it shall be yours."

> ask prophet about title
A blind prophet takes on proud look and announces, "From this day forth, Itron shall be known as a G'nar Pethian. Congratulations, Itron."

>look Itron
You are G'nar Pethian Itron Spelluck, an Elothean.

But it still isn't in my list for Moon Mage

Using title pre list, I used to have a sect catagory, now it is missing.

Are we going to have some kind of list put up as to what the requirements are for most of the new titles?

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IMO PAFO doesn't really work for titles. You can play and get them sometime and wonder what caused you to get it but unless you check your titles every time you rank, and sometimes not even then due to multiple reqs, you never really "find out".

<<IMO PAFO doesn't really work for titles. You can play and get them sometime and wonder what caused you to get it but unless you check your titles every time you rank, and sometimes not even then due to multiple reqs, you never really "find out".

QFT.

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> I agree. I hate PAFO with titles. I use titles as goal markers, I like to know what I need for them and then just go for it but you have all these mystery titles floating out there for no good reason. I can see having a couple of PAFO titles but a good portion of them are, especially in the survival categories.

Not that I know what PAFO stands for but I'm making the assumption it has something to do with us being stuck with having to figure out why things work on a starship. In other words, if we want the title, figure it out ourselves and if you're lucky to train the right skill enough times, you may get it. Personally, I think that's always been stupid. I can understand some in-game secrets, but titles? Come on. I'd think differently on this if perks came with titles. Example: Safe Cracker. Maybe if by qualifying for the title you'd find you have some small added boost to lockpicking and or carving lockpicks, which is kinda ridiculous, then I would find keeping some titles reqs secret to have some meaning. Otherwise they're a pain in the arse.

>>Not that I know what PAFO stands for but I'm making the assumption it has something to do with us being stuck with having to figure out why things work on a starship. In other words, if we want the title, figure it out ourselves and if you're lucky to train the right skill enough times, you may get it. Personally, I think that's always been stupid. I can understand some in-game secrets, but titles? Come on. I'd think differently on this if perks came with titles. Example: Safe Cracker. Maybe if by qualifying for the title you'd find you have some small added boost to lockpicking and or carving lockpicks, which is kinda ridiculous, then I would find keeping some titles reqs secret to have some meaning. Otherwise they're a pain in the arse.

PAFO means Play and Find out. Also, I agree.

Indeed, a huge thanks to all of you. I am enjoying seeing the nifty new titles I have.

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> Maybe the web team can split the Title page, or have an option for spoilers. That way people who like pulling their hair, I mean figuring out title reqs can do that and those who just want to know can too.

On one hand I seconded this, but on the other I see it as potentially making more work for whoever would be responsible to do it. So unless someone would be willing go that far, I say do away with the guess work for players. Just post the reqs and dump the stupid secrecy part of it.

>>Uh... guys. The new titles aren't in prime yet.

Duh. That, and coupled with

>>Unfortunately, my updates to fix the high number of titles issue caused that to appear in Prime before the MM table got put into Prime. That will be fixed in a few minutes.

From Obseden is what threw me for a loop.

But I do have a question about the Chaomancer title. Having it as a G'nar-Peth... And then promptly googling it... It sounds like it would be more akin to the Nomads.

Let's go back to focusing on Titles and less on the PAFO aspect.


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>> But I do have a question about the Chaomancer title.

chaomancy
Divination, or presages, by observing and interpreting confusion or disorder; observed in clouds, airborne apparitions, aerial visions, or comets.

Emphasis on the first part.

Some of the -mancers might seem a little odd. There are conflicting definitions out there for a number of them, and frankly some of the divination techniques IG don't match up as nice as you might like to the literally 100s of -mancies out there.

For example at one point I had a title listed for both Nomads and Tezzies and it wasn't until later I realized I had doubled it up since it had two totally different meanings, each of which fit nicely with the respective sect.

Hopefully I can clarify any that don't make sense to you. Many of them can be found at:

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/2725

-Raesh

<<Does this mean Sage is no longer a moon mage title?>>

It's in the Astrology category.


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I'll look into it tonight with the others. If it was removed it was not intentionally done so.

-Raesh

Sage is definitely missing, it's the only Astrology title other than Enchanter not currently found somewhere in the new Moon Mage list. Unless the new requirements are insane.

~ Kougen

Vorasus says, "There will be blood."

Vorasus drinks your milkshake.

Yeah, there's no reason for Sage to be gone Kougen. When I get home in a few hours I'll figure out why it's missing (I suspect I just lost it in the shuffle) while looking into the other issues that have been mentioned.

>Serc

No. Just no.

-Raesh

Well, here's my attempt to get the ball rolling on figuring stuff out, since the only other way is to gain a whole bunch of ranks and painstakingly track them.

>10 Circle (These are the same every guild gets)

Initiate Moon Mage, Apprentice Moon Mage, Journeyman Moon Mage, Moon Mage, Expert Moon Mage, Master Moon Mage, Grand Master Moon Mage, Legendary Moon Mage, Transcendent Moon Mage

This is only nine. Unless you secretly confirmed a plan to raise the circle cap to 200 I don't see where you're getting 10 from.

>32 Magic

Stargazer, Medium, Contemplator, Mentalist, Mesmerist, Dreamer, Lunar Mage, Lunar Magician, Ascendant, Psychic, Dreamweaver, Illusionist, Novus, Occultist, Spectromancer, Puppet Master, Manipulator, Auspex, Enthraller, Astronomer, Lunarian, Wild Card, Astrologist, Lightcrafter, Luminary, Scion of Yavash, Scion of Xibar, Scion of Katamba

Looks like I have 28/32 of these. Lightcrafter and Luminary previously required 850 PP and 550 Astrology, this is my list with 1128 PP and 726 Astrology.

Known missing: Scion of Grazhir, Illuminated

>37 Prediction/Astro

Lucky, Palm Reader, Austromancy, Chiromancer, Soothsayer, Luckbringer, Daydreamer, Augur, Fortuneteller, Visionist, Doomsayer, Dowser, Mystic, Predictor, Determinist, Diviner, Mantic, Seer, Fatebound, Aura Reader, Prophet, Omen, Ill Omen, Forecaster, Prescient, Portent Seeker, Omen Speaker, Forerunner, Portent, Far Seer, Precursor, Harbinger

32/37. Harbinger require(s/d) 600 Astrology, 1000 PP, 400 scholarship and 10,000(?) predictions.

Known missing: Sage?, Fateshaper, Fateshackled, Alda Pelan (1000 Astrology according to previous hints)

>16 Lore

Pupil, Cold Reader, Meteorologist, Docent, Mathematician, Extrapolator, Philosopher, Geometer, Numinist, Logician, Fatalist, Cosmologist, Enlightened Geometer, Prognosticator

14/16. No point trying to figure these out until more info is posted.

Known missing: Alda Remoren (1000 scholarship according to previous hints)

>13 Survival

Duskwalker, Fade, Shadow of Fate, Observer, Clairaudient, Clairvoyant, Discerner, Moromancer


Only 8/13. Hrm.

Known missing: Shadow Magician (600? hiding/stalking?), Goldcap Aspirant (800 hiding/stalking), Charlatan, Pseudomancer? (Is this the right spot?)

>29 Combat

Dissident, Mystic Blade, Fate Blade, Psychokinetic, Telekinetic Warrior, Lightwielder, Mindflayer, Steelstorm, Shadow Reaver, Light Weaver, Shadow Mage, Sliver Slinger, Hex, Displacer, Fate Reaver, Telekinetic Fury, Battlefield Scribe, Battlefield Scholar, Stalwart Scholar, Mystic Aegis, Geometric Warder, Spellbreaker, Spellbane, Astral Guardian, Nemesis, Prophetic Warrior

26/29. Looks like several of these should also have specific spell reqs. Apparently Blade Dancer became Psychokinetic.

Known missing: Precognitive Soldier, Y'Shai Aspirant (800 weapon/armor, 1000 TM?)

>49 Sect

Celestian, Politician, Advisor, Academic, Grazhirean, Horoscopist, Genethlialogist

Obviously I only get seven. Genethlialogy: The department of Astrology which deals with the birth of individuals, whereby one forms a judgment of the characteristics of a person from a map of the heavens cast for his given birth moment.

>10 Ability

Traveler, Telepath, Hypnotist, Psionic, Witness, Astral Traveler, All-Seeing, Transducer, Untethered

Known missing: Planeswalker? No guess at the reqs, since the only abilities I'm missing are Darkness and Shadow Web. Ultra-high PP maybe? Lots of Disc/concentration?

~ Kougen

Vorasus says, "There will be blood."

Vorasus drinks your milkshake.

<<Known missing: Shadow Magician (600? hiding/stalking?)

I have it with 535 hiding and 555 stalking.

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I have Darkness.

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