<Barbarians aren't barbarians

::reads further into this:: Oh ... I see ... of course they aren't. Whatever made me think they would be? /facedesk ... /facedesksohard

Sounds too close to "Carebearians" so not a good idea.

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True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.

>>Sounds too close to "Carebearians" so not a good idea.

>>lol that does fall into the majority of most paladins RP

I agree, due to being a noble paladin I tend to be far too nice. It is terrible.

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An overpowering sense of wrongness overcomes you, leaving you struggling against an almost uncontrollable urge to lash out at anyone and anything around you. With tremendous force of will, you manage to regain control of your emotions. - Irony

But your PvP is solid. That's a good way too vent the hate you vulcans suppress.

>I'm a paladin.

If you're always nice wouldn't that make you a...wait for it...Palladin?

Whomp whomp.

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I'm a badger, I be badgerin'

Palladin is a protein that in humans is encoded by the PALLD gene.[1][2][3][4] Palladin is a component of actin-containing microfilaments that control cell shape, adhesion, and contraction.[4]

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An overpowering sense of wrongness overcomes you, leaving you struggling against an almost uncontrollable urge to lash out at anyone and anything around you. With tremendous force of will, you manage to regain control of your emotions. - Irony

>>citation plz

Oh, I apologize, friend. Wikipedia.com, it is a wonderful new website where you can learn all kinds of interesting facts. I don't know of anyone who's visited it before, but definitely a fascinating read.

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An overpowering sense of wrongness overcomes you, leaving you struggling against an almost uncontrollable urge to lash out at anyone and anything around you. With tremendous force of will, you manage to regain control of your emotions. - Irony

I know I'm a few days late on this, but I feel like the Paladins should be the Holy warriors that were supposed to be, allowed to have any patron diety, the only problem with this is the whole "soul state" maybe if the paladin had more favors from a dark aspect, theyd benefit from a midnight black soul and vice versa. In our current state, were basically just forced to be the police force, which if I recall was intentional due to the Governments involvement in guild affairs (see: Beren and Oane events).

maybe a sect split for abilities like what moon mages have would be the best thing for us

IE: Paladin of slaughter- dark souls state,combat based powers, worships dark aspects that have to do with war
Paladin of the shadows - dark soul state, has stealth based abilities, worsips the gods of thieves
one for healing the sick (bonuses to protect, first aid, buffing spells to others)
one for smiting the undead (huge bonuses to smiting the undead, but takes a penalty to things that aren't inherently evil)
a magic based one (stronger spells, maybe exclusive ones, im looking at like a Magic shield or weapon that is covered in holy fire, also idea for a spell.[cyclic, small fire/holy damage on successful block])

Uniformity is fine and all, but its stale to see the same paladin RP template with a different name. We should be allowed to have some personality and variances without detracting from the guild.



Khearkrash No'RokenVilks- Resident Palbaribard of the TT

Let me rephrase the RP statement.

Our RP itself may be different, but for anyone who isn't the cookie cutter nice guy, we have do do things way out of our RP to keep our guild skills working. The way that our guild is right now, I can murder, backstab, and be a general jerk like picking on the youngins and whatnot, but as long as I have a pilgrims badge, tithe once in a while and all my favors are from Chadatru, I can keep my soul state up. that's going and doing things way out of RP.

Its about the same level of having to play out of RP as the empaths that wish for slaughter to happen and tell people to go get injured, the polar opposite of empathy.

<Our RP itself may be different, but for anyone who isn't the cookie cutter nice guy, we have do do things way out of our RP to keep our guild skills working.

It does not have to be out of 'your RP.' All you need to do is come up with a reason to murder, backstab, or be a jerk to youngins that fits in with the notion of a warrior touched by the divine, of the Gods or what have you. Then you have to pay the cost to keep your soul working so you can continue to do these things in the name of whatever Gods or righteous cause you have devised. If you really want to do all of these things for no real justifiable RP reason, why not just play another guild. To remove a Paladin's soul would make playing a Paladin more like a different flavor of warmie or barb. Really bland. Playing all nicey nice and goodie goodie can be quite the challenge at times, and I must say that I do not think my Paladin is 'cookie cutter' at all.

None of this means Paladin RP HAS to be shining white or goodie goodie or even nice. It just means that a Paladin must attend to his/her soul as they do what they feel they must. Having a functional soul is Paladin RP. I refer to Armifer's post 'Sacred and Profane' as it does a good job explaining dark pallie RP.

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True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.

Maybe I'm confused on the concept of soul/soulstate, but I think the way it was recently explained by a GM (name escapes me) is that it's an indication of well one's behaviors match up to what the divine agent who has sanctified said soul emulates. Right now this sanctified soul does indeed seem to be tied to Chadatru so emulating Chadatru's behavior is good (makes a soul more pristine), doing things Chadatru does not like is bad (makes a soul blacker). If in the future this is expanded to allow a Paladins soul to be sanctified by different deities, then they would likewise strive to maintain a pristine soul in relation to that deities particular likes and dislikes. This doesn't mean that once sanctified the deity is watching the Paladins' every move. Rather, the Paladin knows what he should and should not be doing and when he does something against that deity he sort of feels bad and negatively impacts the sanctified soul.

If any of this is true, I just don't see any reason a Paladin would ever strive to keep a black soul.

--Just a Squire

<<Would be a lot of work but would also be sweet if paladins could worship whomever they wanted and as a result there would be as many inherently 'correct' ways to play a paladin as there are immortals - as their soul state would be tied to behaviors that a particular deity prefers.>>

Yeah, but I don't see it ever happening. There just aren't enough Paladins for GM's to justify that sort of time sink.

--Just a Squire

Well, having a black soul seems very similar to seeing black flecks in holy mana. My guess is that it has to do with being disconnected from the gods somehow, as opposed to worshiping a negative aspect. Negative aspects are still just as holy and pure as the light or neutral aspects. The blackness in mana and in souls represents a thing that used to be full of holiness, and is now just ... nothing.

PS I would love it if the descriptions were to change from "black" to "colorless", "empty", and/or "nothingness." A la The Neverending Story.

OMG Triple post, but - it stands to reason that if the gods or the All-Father or whoever created the world from nothing, that they would be opposed to nothingness. Some sort of Void force/entity. It'd explain why the gods are both positive/negative/neutral and yet still "holy" and "good" in a sense. The negative aspects may be dark and evil but at least they aren't nothing. I have no idea what this force called "The Hunger" is that I've heard about, but now I'm motivated to seeing if it could be tied in to this concept somehow.

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