Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/09/2006 08:46 PM CDT
And thank you Iayn. Looks really cool.






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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/10/2006 02:04 AM CDT
Great job on the find. Looks really good, thank you.

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/10/2006 03:06 AM CDT
Painted on his forehead in matte black is a skull.

Just noticed a space between there. It doesn't do that for all the stamps, though. And you can use your forger's stamp to mark someone which is pretty neat.

Xixist's suggested a good idea about warpaint containers (made from the bones of our enemies?)

I think there might be an issue with warpaint and paint combining with each other. When someone puts on warpaint and someone else applies paint on you via the stamps. It hides the warpaint aspect from the feature look of that character, but warpaint is still active on the individual. That might not make sense, here's an example:

You see Gavyn Arctos, Barbarian of M'Riss, a S'Kra Mur.
He has silver-flecked slitted dark eyes and a squared snout, dark gold-edged scales with a pale silver underbelly and a long tail. His face and torso are painted with two-fisted battle axes in fresh flame-red and pitch-black warpaint. (warpaint)
He is tall for a S'Kra Mur.
He is middle-aged for a S'Kra Mur.
He has a tattoo of spiraling ribbons of barbed silver wire on his tail.
He is in good shape.

He is holding a flame-red and pitch-black paintstick in his right hand.
He is wearing a heavy leather hiking pack embossed with twin crossed spears, a soft suede haversack, a petrified beetle ring, a blue-white coral ring inset with damite wire and a mosaic crest of the Barbarian Guild, a friendship ring formed from linked silver knots, a black leather armband set with an onyx beetle, an etched slender band of platinum inlaid with sparkling diamonds, a black spidersilk belt quiver, an azure-scaled poloh'izh hide cloak, a sleek basilisk skin fighting shirt, an over-stuffed bunny holding a crystal-topped bloodwood wand in one paw, a suede weapons belt with carved sana'ati panels, an intricate claymore sheath cross-wrapped with alternating platinum bands and swaths of grey leather, a twisted silver and gold ru'at bracelet with an intricate golden clasp set with black diamonds, a brushed platinum four-leaf clover inlaid with jade, some sleek basilisk skin fighting pants with a wide leather waistband, a black sash, a blown-glass "G" pendant suspended from a black leather cord, a noble chakrel dragon amulet hung from a blackened steel chain, a kyanite gwethdesuan, a jadeite gwethdesuan, a mist-filled crystal globe hanging from a fine gold chain, a canvas sack, a set of sleek black battle leathers crafted from arrowhead-shaped scales, a grey leather mask with eyeholes centered in black circles, some reinforced hide gloves and an origami-paper envelope.

He wears his warpaint like a true warrior.

You smear your angry face stamp with warpaint and slam the stamp onto Gavyn's forehead, leaving a mark for all to see.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
>lo gavyn
You see Gavyn Arctos, Barbarian of M'Riss, a S'Kra Mur.
He has silver-flecked slitted dark eyes and a squared snout, dark gold-edged scales with a pale silver underbelly and a long tail. Painted on his forehead in fresh black is an angry face. (paint)
He is tall for a S'Kra Mur.
He is middle-aged for a S'Kra Mur.
He has a tattoo of spiraling ribbons of barbed silver wire on his tail.
He is in good shape.

He is wearing a heavy leather hiking pack embossed with twin crossed spears, a soft suede haversack, a petrified beetle ring, a blue-white coral ring inset with damite wire and a mosaic crest of the Barbarian Guild, a friendship ring formed from linked silver knots, a black leather armband set with an onyx beetle, an etched slender band of platinum inlaid with sparkling diamonds, a black spidersilk belt quiver, an azure-scaled poloh'izh hide cloak, a sleek basilisk skin fighting shirt, an over-stuffed bunny holding a crystal-topped bloodwood wand in one paw, a suede weapons belt with carved sana'ati panels, an intricate claymore sheath cross-wrapped with alternating platinum bands and swaths of grey leather, a twisted silver and gold ru'at bracelet with an intricate golden clasp set with black diamonds, a brushed platinum four-leaf clover inlaid with jade, some sleek basilisk skin fighting pants with a wide leather waistband, a black sash, a blown-glass "G" pendant suspended from a black leather cord, a noble chakrel dragon amulet hung from a blackened steel chain, a kyanite gwethdesuan, a jadeite gwethdesuan, a mist-filled crystal globe hanging from a fine gold chain, a canvas sack, a set of sleek black battle leathers crafted from arrowhead-shaped scales, a grey leather mask with eyeholes centered in black circles, some reinforced hide gloves and an origami-paper envelope.

Gavyn's eyes and face set into a mask emphasizing his warpaint. (warpaint is still active on the character, but is not visible)

Than the paint comes off from when I marked Gavyn, but he still has warpaint active on that character, but the warpaint is not visible (the paint isn't visible since it flaked off). This is noted by the fact he can still use the warpaint verbs.

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/10/2006 08:06 AM CDT
Yep, the fix for that is already in process.


Gamemaster Iayn
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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/10/2006 02:41 PM CDT
Hey Iayn, don't suppose I could convince you to let my warpaint kit hold a stamp?




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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/10/2006 07:02 PM CDT
Ok, thanks. There was also another bug with warpaint that Gavyn noticed earlier this morning and I wanted to go to sleep before posting it.

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/13/2006 08:56 PM CDT
Tried my forger's mark stamp as a paint stamp... Huzzah!.
Works like a charm. now I just have to find a place where X marks the spot.
Abstract surrealist fingerpainting artist Xixist
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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/13/2006 09:06 PM CDT
<<Works like a charm. now I just have to find a place where X marks the spot.>>

X! X is where you are on the map. Sometimes. When you're in the right spot.

- Simon :P

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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/15/2006 01:51 PM CDT
>>Ok, thanks. There was also another bug with warpaint that Gavyn noticed earlier this morning and I wanted to go to sleep before posting it.

I forgot all about that. The second bug was after I was marked, the mark (paint) had wore off and I still had my (now invisible) warpaint and cleaned that off. I scrubbed twice and the second time got the message that it had all been removed. About 2 minutes after that I recieved a message saying my warpaint flaked and came off completely.

-Gavyn




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Re: Warpaint Stamp Merchant. 06/15/2006 02:06 PM CDT
Yep, the fix for that is in QC too.
Thanks for reminding me.


Gamemaster Iayn
Barbarian Liaison
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Minor Warpaint Bug 06/23/2006 04:07 AM CDT
I don't know if you know, or even if it really matters, but sometimes when you look at other barbarians, normal room text comes up between the person's inventory and the "wear the warpaint like a true warrior." It happened to me earlier today, where it was broken up by a normal converstation I was having.




Caraamon Majerye,
Gor'Tog Barbarian Extrordi...Well somewhat average
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
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Warpaint removal 07/15/2006 09:54 AM CDT
Besides CLEANing Warpaint, you can also REMOVE Warpaint.

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint removal 07/15/2006 11:32 AM CDT
There are also ways to remove warpaint quicker.


Gamemaster Iayn
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Re: Warpaint removal 07/15/2006 01:03 PM CDT
>Maulem draws forth a massive double-bladed war axe.

>scrape paint with axe

>Maulem scrapes the paint from his face and torso, and most of his skin with it.


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Re: Warpaint removal 07/15/2006 01:21 PM CDT
It's just a flesh wound. :)

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint removal 07/15/2006 01:26 PM CDT
I'd like to note that in reality that wasn't his face he was scrapping on with his axe. And it certainly wasn't warpaint.

Ternith
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Warpaint Demeanor/Befriend issue 07/23/2006 06:29 PM CDT
Iayn,
Recently I've noticed that the person I'm painting not only has to consent me and to kneel, but also must befriend me warm in order for me to paint them. I don't remember this being an issue at first, but admittedly I haven't painted too many others. Is this intended?


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Re: Warpaint Demeanor/Befriend issue 07/23/2006 08:35 PM CDT
Consent, befriend, kneel, all intended.

Gamemaster Iayn
Barbarian Liaison
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Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 07:23 AM CDT
Okay, here are more details on what the different warpaint options do. I know I previously confirmed two of them.

SCREAM - Intimidation.
STARE - charisma.
MEDITATE - discipline.
CONCENTRATE - fear resistance.


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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 07:44 AM CDT
Thanks for that.

~Player behind Korutu
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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 09:39 AM CDT
Don't forget that warpaint does a few other things too, including being considered by roars in lieu of titles.

Gamemaster Iayn
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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 12:09 PM CDT
Thank you very much Iayn. PAFO is only fun for a little bit then it turns to frustration.

I did have a question, primarily because it would probably be rough to test and confirm, but does concentrating on your warpaint and turning a roar defense cloak both stack for roar defense?

Thanks again.
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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 04:06 PM CDT
Thanks much for the information Iayn. Now to do some testing to see with Scream and Stare.


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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 04:36 PM CDT
You ask Gruk to appraise a large cat's eye quartz.
Gruk examines the cat's eye quartz carefully, then says in a deep voice, "I'll pay 612 Lirums for it."

...wait 5 minutes

>stare warpaint
You envision your warpaint in your mind. Using that vision, you flex your muscles and adjust your posture to impressive effect.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

You ask Gruk to appraise a large cat's eye quartz.
Gruk examines the cat's eye quartz carefully, then says in a deep voice, "I'll pay 676 Lirums for it."

That is a 10.5% bonus to one gem. Granted, some of that could be due to the random effect that I understand is inherent in having the gem folks appraise a gem at different intervals. This next test shows two individual apps with no boost 5 minutes apart for control purposes.

You ask Gruk to appraise a large cat's eye quartz.
Gruk examines the cat's eye quartz carefully, then says in a deep voice, "I'll pay 644 Lirums for it."

...wait 5 minutes

You ask Gruk to appraise a large cat's eye quartz.
Gruk examines the cat's eye quartz carefully, then says in a deep voice, "I'll pay 657 Lirums for it."

As you see that is only a 2% increase on the control test. This lends credence that stare warpaint boosts gem sales prices.


Here is a full pouch for more value effect.

You ask Gruk to appraise a dark gem pouch.
Gruk examines the contents of the dark gem pouch carefully, then says in a deep voice, "I'll pay 13870 Lirums for it."

...wait 5 minutes

You envision your warpaint in your mind. Using that vision, you flex your muscles and adjust your posture to impressive effect.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

You ask Gruk to appraise a dark gem pouch.
Gruk examines the contents of the dark gem pouch carefully, then says in a deep voice, "I'll pay 13873 Lirums for it."

Ok, that test lends creedence to no effect on gem selling. :(


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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 04:38 PM CDT
Also Scream and Stare are not stackable, or I'm not skilled enough to do so.


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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 07:43 PM CDT
Your best bet, though painful, would be to do it 10 times without the warpaint, then 10 times with the paint for a better mean of gain.

Wouldn't the pawn shop be better? Doesn't it pay the same amount for an item for short periods of time, or does it very like gems do?
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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 07:47 PM CDT
All that I'll say about stacking is that warpaint and the skins/cloaks are subject to global caps.


Gamemaster Iayn
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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/24/2006 08:13 PM CDT
The better way to test that Maulem, I used it when checking nightmare, is to find a shop with a multi-silver item. Find the lowest price you can offer twice and be sold the item.

Activate the boost, then find the new lowest price.

This requires you to actually buy the item which removes several random or seemingly random variables from the testing.

I am --- Navak
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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/28/2006 04:03 PM CDT
<<I did have a question, primarily because it would probably be rough to test and confirm, but does concentrating on your warpaint and turning a roar defense cloak both stack for roar defense?>>

Tested that out a while back and it does stack for fear resistance.

<<Thank you very much Iayn. PAFO is only fun for a little bit then it turns to frustration.>>

I also would like to thank Iayn for that. Guessed discipline for meditate, but didn't really confirm it. I was sort of on the right back with stare, but there's very little way to test that out for checking if it boosts charisma.

Regarding what Maulem wrote. Gem selling has something with a random timer for non-Trader characters in terms of getting differing prices. I don't think your charisma will matter as far as gem selling is concerned if you are a non-Trader.

I don't think you can stack multiple warpaints at the same time.

<<The better way to test that Maulem, I used it when checking nightmare, is to find a shop with a multi-silver item. Find the lowest price you can offer twice and be sold the item.>>

I don't think that will help either, Navak. Nightmare seems to be boosting intimidation directly and not charisma. Either way, I don't think Non-Traders can benefit from getting additional coins from gem shop appraisers or pawn shop appraisers. It should be a random thing every few minutes if you ask them to appraise it.

<<Don't forget that warpaint does a few other things too, including being considered by roars in lieu of titles.>>

Thanks again for that, Iayn. In terms of when someone looks at you and they shake/tremble/eyes widen/etc. when you have warpaint being worn, should they be receiving a reduction in fear resistance for a short period of time?

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/28/2006 04:05 PM CDT
One last thing I forgot to mention in the last post. Any chance Barbarians can see when the duration of the downtime ending from warpaint, so they would know when the Barbarian can use the warpaint again for full affect?

- Simon

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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/28/2006 06:08 PM CDT
I get messages when my warpaint effects wear off.


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Re: Warpaint Boosts 07/28/2006 06:45 PM CDT
<<I get messages when my warpaint effects wear off.>>

I'm referring to asking for downtime messaging until you can get full powered effects again, not when the warpaint effects wear off.

- Simon

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Warpaint Q 10/15/2006 10:42 AM CDT
I was curious if the various levels of warpaint have an affect on the potency of the effect. For example:

When using Scream to raise your initimidation factor, will the 1 plat warpaint give you a higher bonus, then the 2.5 gold warpaint? Or is the bonus a constant, the only difference in the cost being which active bonuses are available. Basically I'm trying to determine if I should invest 1 plat per stick, when I really only use the scream effect, or save myself some coin and go 2.5 gold, since I rarely, if ever use the other active bonuses.


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Re: Warpaint Q 10/15/2006 05:27 PM CDT
Unknwon about the potency, but not all verbs are usable with all quality levels of paint. The plunderer quality, the 1 plat per stick kind, has the full range of effects possible.


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Custom Warpaint Question 12/10/2006 08:59 PM CST
When barbarians look at a barb with custom warpaint they see them wearing it like a true warrior, but the custom warpaint doesn't cause people to shake/widen their eyes etc... like the other types of warpaint.

I was wondering if this was a limitation of custom warpaint or if it was something else.

I am --- Navak
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Re: Custom Warpaint Question 12/11/2006 06:37 AM CST
Custom warpaint works a little differently than normal warapaint. It doesn't fade, lasts considerably longer, and doesn't usually give that message.


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Re: Custom Warpaint Question 12/11/2006 06:44 AM CST
>>Custom warpaint works a little differently than normal warapaint. It doesn't fade, lasts considerably longer, and doesn't usually give that message.

Hold on hold on. Do you mean that if I never used it, it would not fade? The design remains? Please clarify the high-lighted string. Do you simply mean it doesn't give the fading messages (ghostly, etc.)? By 'lasts longer,' you mean the commands (SCREAM, STARE, etc) right?

OMG Iayn. Why didn't you say so when I asked if there was a way to get decorative warpaint that wouldn't fade? Now I have to scour the earth until I find custom warpaint.


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Re: Custom Warpaint Question 12/11/2006 07:19 AM CST
It wears off, but it doesn't change as it wears (no "ghostly" etc adjectives as you mentioned). By lasts longer I mean it lasts longer than regular warpaint. :)

By my count there are eleven barbarians with custom warpaint and one with a voucher.


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Re: Custom Warpaint Question 12/11/2006 09:34 AM CST
We're special.





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Warpaint Functions 01/27/2008 06:54 PM CST
>meditate war
You focus your mind on your warpaint, girding yourself with it like armor.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

Strength : XX Reflex : XX
Agility : XX Charisma : XX +
Discipline : XX + Wisdom : XX
Intelligence : XX Stamina : XX
Favors: 3
Concentration: XXX+ Max: XXX

MEDITATE gives a charisma bonus and a 1-point discipline boost. Interestingly, the charisma bonus seems to last quite a while even after you get the "you no longer feel inspired" message.

>concentrate war

You concentrate on the patterns of your warpaint, steeling your mind and body against fear.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

No stat bonuses.

SCREAM and STARE both seem to be charisma bonuses, which makes me wonder what the four different effects are.
CONCENTRATE gives a charisma bonus.
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