<<Dragon is not the be all end all of combat boosts any longer.-Steinn->>

Dami's comment was that dragon was the single most powerful combat boost in the game. This comment on the surface appears fantastic for barbs until you consider all the nonmost-powerful boosts that can be stacked on top of each other.

starkad
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In that song, "You're so Vain" is he really that vain? I mean the song IS about him...

You cant juggle at melee.


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Let me rephrase wasn't worded properly he juggles all the time there when 1 or 2 or even 3 how he can handle 3 with like 130 MO and someone with 200 can't is because of the spells he has going in. anyway, he juggles, when they reached melee and his rt is over he gets his sabre out and attacks/cast. I have never seen anyone in there hanging out juggling and chillin. Not to put him down, he's da man if he can do that. I wish I could do that too. <kneels down and begins to pray>.

War Hawk Catullus


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There was a question about abilities someone mentiond a few post back stating that 3 guilds get bonus to skills and barbs get none.

While they are three guilds with inherent bonus' to skill it isn't ranger, thief, paladin.

Rangers and Thieves get a bonus to survival, not every survival just some and they don't work in certain locations.

Clerics get a bonus to power perception aslong as their devotion is high enough however many abilities a cleric uses waste devotion and it must be maintained. its a bonus to only one skill and it does not boost mana it only boost power perception.

Paladins do not get a bonus to armor ranks they have a bonus to the percentage they can reduce the hinderence to at low ranks a paladin is as equally hindered in plate as lets say a cleric or warrior mage. However towards mid-low ranks when most guilds are tappering off their hinderences paladins continue to work off their armor. Paladins are also hindered in using leathers.

Barbarians have an equal bonus to using leathers as Paladins have in using plate/chain.


if you count the paladin bonus then indeed barbarians do have an innate bonus to armor


--The light is blinding and purges all in its path, leaving only shadows behind, but long after the light has dwindled the shadows will remain to rise and swallow the ruins in darkness

Paladins have the lowest hindrance of all the Guilds in any armor, including leather. Guild hindrances changed awhile back.

Paladins have an inherent bonus to shield protection (and this shows up on appraisals).

Paladins have Divine Armor. <Cries> I want DA bad.. especially on a shield..

Paladins work off ALL multi armor hindrance at 30th circle <cries more>.

Clerics get a PP bonus.

Empaths get a FA bonus. (Do Paladins get a FA bonus? For some reason I recall that they did.)

Empaths get a guild only lore skill.

Bards get a guild only lore skill.

Bards get all kinda of music bonuses, like half the RT of others and stuff.

Bards and Empaths get guild only origami patterns for learning their primaries better. =(

Rangers and Thieves bonus blah blah survival skills blah blah blah.

Rangers and Thieves get their own guild only survival skills.

Rangers and Thieves can hide at melee.

Moon Mages get a guild only lore skill.

Traders get a guild only lore skill.

Traders get an appraisal bonus.

Lalala.. ok I'm done. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

Dragoonseal

who has a music boost?



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If you don't find death death will find you.

The gene pool needs cleansing and I am the minister of chlorine.

Solch ist lebens

Zu jedem besitzt seiner ist

>You sing:

>"Beans, beans, the magical fruit.
>The more ya eat
>The more ya toot!"

><bows>

>Ruffles Scourge of the Seas


Funny - I remember it being Beans, beans, good for your heart...

>okay so I didn't know about those two...hmm and I'd rather have the warrior mages YS personally, it boost absorbtion and lowers hinderence. DA only boost protection and absorbtion but if you have capped armor then it won't boost it past what it already is at, good on shields though.

YS doesn't boost past capped armor stats either, and if I recall correctly, it doesn't boost as much as DA (though I could be wrong).

Nester

Wow. *War stomp* has the effects of DA and YS? ::smirks::


~A tired Viptorian

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Jeladric says, "Viptorian you will always be young at heart and that is a good thing."

<other guilds abilities/bonuses>

And we have dances, new roars and soon to be new berserks.


"Everything I know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains"

You have BMR.

>In exchange for being pretty much locked out of the magic skillset. And don't give me that stuff about how we can train it, there are penalties, or will be.

This was not an discussion about how those bonuses/perks are justified. You just wanted to list them.

A previous post got me curious about Stomp and it's effects. Out of the posting Barbarians who have War Stomp, how do you all feel about it? Specifically:

1. Do you see War Stomp as a useful 100th circle guild ability?

2. How often do you use it?

3. When/If you do use it, do you notice any obvious advantages it has over Anger Earth?

I'm just wondering if it's something I should look forward to getting. Thanks in advance.

<<A previous post got me curious about Stomp and it's effects. Out of the posting Barbarians who have War Stomp, how do you all feel about it? Specifically:>>

Ha. And that post you are referring to got pulled for being unconstructive...getting people thinking about things is never unconstructive, despite heavy handed censorship :D.

I will now try to be constructive:

How much arguing did you guys do to Veyl regarding the balance changes in combat being as we have 1 dance, 2 roars and our 100th circle ability designed around balance in combat? If you did, were you over-ruled on this decision?

Will our affected abilities be re-examined and possibly tweaked for effectiveness with the combat balance change?

Do you feel war stomp is on par with other guilds 100th circle abilities?

Is there a way that you can set up a counter and see how many people are actually using War Stomp?

Is Damissak or Maelona ever coming back?

Regards
Starkad

<<Its public knowledge that Damnissak was fired. Thats what everyone told me at least.>>

His resignation letter was on several websites since it was pulled off the DR boards.

<<Nothing is known to me about Maelona. Extensive vacation perhaps?>>

Leave of absence is the official term.

Actually that last question of mine was more of a smartypants question since the work they did in the whole Magic 2.0/BMR has been pissed away via pathways (not to mention the stress they suffered on the mages boards).

Starkad

<<He tried to resign but was fired. He was told...you can't resign...yer fired. I know from a good source it wasn't a resignation heh>>

I have heard both sides of the story from Solomon and Damissak (hear both sides of the story and the truth lies somewhere in between). I guess they must have been lying since you have a good source though. At the end of the day it was silliness between two stubborn men that has left the realms a little less brighter.

Cheers
Starkad

P.S. To quote Damissak's resignation letter "I'ld imagine lots of other rumors will abound."

<<A previous post got me curious about Stomp and it's effects. Out of the posting Barbarians who have War Stomp, how do you all feel about it? Specifically:

1. Do you see War Stomp as a useful 100th circle guild ability?>>

Definately not, sorry to say.

<<2. How often do you use it?>>

Never. Anger the earth is much more effective without draining fire.

<<3. When/If you do use it, do you notice any obvious advantages it has over Anger Earth?>>

No advantages. Disadvantages are that it drains inner fire, doesn't effect anything at missle.

I'm just wondering if it's something I should look forward to getting. Thanks in advance. >>

X-Sassy (still Susie)

>The teleporting ability for 100th MMs certainly seems similar in power.

Afraid I have to disagree with you there, the MM ability is something very useful and can be very helpful.

Our ability drains a portion of our IF for something that is very limited in power and has now been even more reduced in effectiveness by the recent combat changes.

It's a cool thing, don't get me wrong. I just don't ever see it as something I'll use if and when I make it to 100th.


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>>>The teleporting ability for 100th MMs certainly seems similar in power.

Huh? I don't remember anyone letting slip THAT info.

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Re: perspective on the MM 100th ability vs. War Stomp.

Noted. I'll keep it in mind.

Painbringer Skiori
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