>And then basically, you would still be attuned random, but the randomness would be split between the remaining four elements, rather than all five. This could make the spells that use random attune mechanics potentially useful (and not dangerous) in more circumstances... but if you want the benefit of hitting an element every time on these spells, you still need to attune.

That was my point, and this would work.

>That was my point, and this would work.

Ah, I see now you already suggested something like this... sorry, I glossed over it!

>It's a terrible design direction in my opinion. First create a spell that works for most everyone. Then look to add some bonuses to it for attunement if you so desire. I get why some areas are lightning unfriendly. Some of our most powerful spells are (or were in the case of cone of lightning) lightning based. I don't get why you would design a 2nd level spell in such a way that it also that has to suffer from this penalty in order to even be used.

I agree, and I will note that neither 702 nor 302 suffer from these restrictions.

>> How would you feel about this spell if you could unattune (anti-attune?) and limit the randomness, rather than eliminate it entirely?

That would be great! Then I could actually have some fun with it. I thought it was a terrific suggestion.

-- Robert

Bazzelwyn says, "Maul maul maul maul maul maul maul."
Bazzelwyn says, "The answer is maul."

>>Would you really want it to be easy for an 11th level minor circle spell to create a 7x flaring weapon?<<

That's not what my comment was about. I asked WHY people were getting excited over this change, when it was so difficult to use well. Sure, maybe I can eblade a white ora weapon and give it flares, but who even uses white ora nowadays? My main characters all have 7x weapons, mostly perfects, that I have enchanted myself. There is no reason foe me to have any of them use a 3x or 4x flaring weapon. So, the change is of little value for me, and probably not going to be much used by any wizard who is of adequate level, simply because they don't have enough elemental lores.

Agreed through, I have a 5x perfect T2 maul, so enchant doesn't appeal to me but the flares would be lovely even if it is just for the element I am attuned too. Kind like temp ensorcell.

This new e-blade is also useful for using those +2 deringo runestaves with great enhancives and making it into a +22 runestaff with great enhancives and decent flares. There's plenty of those low enchant enhancive weapons that are never used because they are a pain to enchant. Now they're all fair game unless you're already walking around with auction quality gear.

In that case, yes, an 11th level minor circle spell may not be of much use to you.

Here's the type of weapons i'm talking about.

a kelyn-tipped ora twohanded sword - +10, +4 Strength Bonus (28), +1 Stalking and Hiding Rank (2), +2 Spiritual Lore rank (10)
a chalk white imflass troll-claw - +12, +6 Summoing Lore Bonus (21), +4 Ambush Bonus (6), +6 Dodging Bonus (13)
a carved mossbark short bow - +20, +3 Range Weapon Bonus (4), +9 constiution (27), +7 Agility (17)
fine carmiln runestaff - +6, +4 Influence Bonus (14), +7 Max Mana (17)
an ornate deringo runestaff - +8, 3 Summoning Lore Bonus (6)
a sturdy mossbark runestaff - +15, +9 Physical Fitness Bonus (18), +12 Influence (31), +3 Max Mana (4), +4 Intuition (4)
a burled villswood runestaff - +18, +6 Magic Item Use Bonus (17), +8 max Mana (22)
a baby blue carmiln runestaff - +6, +7 Max Health (11)
a large hoarbeam runestaff - +12, +5 Influence Bonus (21)
a grass green rowan runestaff - +5, +4 Necromancy Lore Ranks (34), +5 Intuition (6)
a banded mossbark runestaff - +15, +3 Spirit Mana Control Ranks (12)
a steel-capped rowan runestaff - +5, +4 Health Recovery (20), +1 Transformation Lore Ranks (4)
a lily white deringo runestaff - +8, +9 Harness Power Bonus (27), +7 Spell Aim Bonus (17), +1 Aura (1)
an acid-stained rowan runestaff - +5, +11 Max Mana (40), +4 Dexterity (6)

Most of these would pretty soundly beat the off the shelf +20 runestaff many pures currently stroll around with. These were all available for 50k, most are still for sale. The same goes for all those great weapons you orbed at the fusion shaman which would have been great if they had a few more enchants.

>This is exactly correct and the intended design. If you don't want to attune, that's fine and it's completely your character's decision, but it ultimately means they can't control the elements to the same degree as someone who has attuned to a specific element.


Some of us set our attunement in GS3 before any of this existed, and we still haven't been given the option to change it.

Just saying.

>>Now they're all fair game unless you're already walking around with auction quality gear.<<

Well, all my gals have 7x perfect weapons, except for one 7x superior flail, so I am not likely to make much use of this new improvement. As for naginatas, I am even as we speak taking one from 6x to 7x.

I do see the point about increasing the usefulness of some low enchant weapon with desirable enhancives, however. That particular possibility never occurred to me; all my enhancive items are of the non weapon variety. I'll have to consider this further and do some experimenting.

Well let's see ... my wizard is capped an 1x in lores. I tried eblading a glaes weapon, but no luck. One problem is that she is attuned to earth, but with the new changes to 5O6, she traded in 24 ranks of earth lore for another 24 of air. I did manage to e blade an invar weapon, however. Whee!

>Well let's see ... my wizard is capped an 1x in lores. I tried eblading a glaes weapon, but no luck. One problem is that she is attuned to earth, but with the new changes to 5O6, she traded in 24 ranks of earth lore for another 24 of air. I did manage to e blade an invar weapon, however. Whee!

126 Earth Lore - I can successfully eblade up to imflass (technically +13 weapon)! It doesn't really do me much good, but it's something I can do that I couldn't do before.

-Drumpel

<< This new e-blade is also useful for using those +2 deringo runestaves with great enhancives and making it into a +22 runestaff with great enhancives and decent flares. There's plenty of those low enchant enhancive weapons that are never used because they are a pain to enchant. Now they're all fair game unless you're already walking around with auction quality gear. >>

Eblade can be used on enhancive weapons? If so, that open us a lot of possibilities.

With no room to spare, the Ithzir scout manages to parry the blow with her crystal-tipped staff!
The scintillating Character thrusts with a weapon at you! light surrounding the staff fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Estild, I bugged this in game, but after an enchanting failures resulting in a -2x enchanted weapon then re-enchanting it back to 0x I was not able to e-blade the item. I was able to bless and consecrate it (and obviously I was able to enchant it), so I am not sure why it would not take the e-blade other than perhaps the formula is not correctly identifying the current enchant?

As a side note - I also attempted to have the weapon e-bladed prior to re-enchanting when it was -2x. With a wizard that had 75+ ranks of their attuned lore, they were not able to e-blade the item. Yet it was still able to be blessed and consecrated (and enchanted).

Can you give me more information on this? I would appreciate an unedited log. I am not sure from this where "Character" is coming from, but if that is you replacing the name, just use XXXXX instead to make it obvious.

Plus was the character hidden by chance when this occurred?

~Contemplar~

I don't have a log, and the only information I can add is: I swung at the creature, it parried and gave that message. Character was replacing the name, so assume it was XXXXX.

The character was not hidden at the time.

Sorry if that's not helpful.

I blackened a 4x fusion runestaff to -10. Took it back up to 1x. I know blackened things are always a bit tricky, but was unable to e-blade it when it was at -5, 0x, or +5.

~Whirlin

Done, thank you!

~Whirlin

They'd have to remove the CLANG! effect when you clash spells on them since they drop. I assume it was an abuse change because it feels like at one point you could.

>>If you haven't yet, could you bugitem the weapon in question?

>>~Contemplar~


Hey Contemplar, are there any updates on this bug? I bugged a similar item, though not fusion, in game and it was re-enchanted to 0x after an enchanting failure with the ability to be 1) enchanted, 2) blessed, 3) consecrated - but I cannot e-blade the item.

I would expect that any item which is eligible for blessing and enchanting could be e-bladed as a general rules of thumb provided you have the proper training for the current enchant? Is that a bad assumption?