I've been wondering this as well but didn't get around to posting yet. Clarification or player testing would be helpful.

I think the question was what are those new standard weights? Did they all get set to the old human ones? I haven't tested since me as a Gnome didn't care beyond that I could carry a bit more. The old ones for human were a base 3 pounds per strength and 2 pounds per stamina, with a step capacity of 6 pounds.

To the OP, it'd be an easy enough thing to test using coins and a newly generated character. Just make sure to log out and back in before checking new numbers to avoid the training bug. I may get around to it myself if I don't have anything else crop up tonight. Heck, if I feel really frisky I may even do a cross-race comparison just to check that things are indeed equal, stat for stat.

-Evran

<<It is important to remember that the one single and solitary common thing that is shared by the myraid of things that annoy you and tick you off and make you upset...is you. --Solomon

Anyone run any tests on str vs stam for any of the races?
It will really have an effect on my stat training choices.

I'm still kinda upset I had to get rid of a lot of the things I carry, because I became squished after the change. (grumbles)
Tiso

I know of no burden calculator, but next time I'm IG I'll repeat what you did with my characters.

Does discipline affect burden?

By the way when I plotted Str+Stam (y axis) v. Coins to Light (x axis) for Hanryu and MELEAGRIS's characters I got a straight line. Of course it's only 3 points.... so yea not exactly helpful for crating a burden calculator but it's good evidence of a simple linear formula.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
Keeper of the CEC
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls

>i

You have nothing.

>enc

Encumbrance: None

>weal

You have:
5999 copper Kronars.

>with 1 copper

The clerk counts out 1 copper Kronars and hands them over, making a notation in her ledger.
>enc

Encumbrance: Light Burden

>wealth

You have:
6000 copper Kronars.

STR: 25
STA: 25
Race: Rakash

Sadeia.

>befriend clear all
You are now friendless.

Okay today I seem to be burdenless. Hee! Go figure. Guess what ever it was fixed itself overnight. (dances)
Tiso

My gnome's discipline is 19, and my elf's discipline is 29.

OK, so something isn't quite right. Comparing my kaldar cleric with MELEAGRIS's elf...

Elf	23	25	29	5200
Kaldar	22	16	14	5250

She's worse in every stat, yet can still carry 5 more stones before hitting light burden. I thought the point of the change was all races were supposed to be the same?

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
Keeper of the CEC
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls

>I just doubled checked to make sure I didn't screw up and I still got 5200.

Thanks!

So I pose the question to the GMs, is the system working as intended? Are "stronger" races still supposed to be getting a carrying bonus, all else equal?

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
Keeper of the CEC
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls

How wide is the variance (albeit I doubt you yet have enough data to say one way or the other)? Could it perhaps be a random factor?

J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
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>Could it perhaps be a random factor?

There has never been a random factor to encumbrance. Most likely there was a mistake when converting the races to the new encumbrance calculations.

>Due to the encumbrance panel updates in Plat, the update was not fully rolled into Prime. I have modified the scripts and everything is in prime now. You'll notice a change in burden and the amount you can carry.


Does this include the panel updated into prime?


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Okay, just checked again with the same results. Sorry about not posting discipline, I didn't know it affected burden.

>enc

Encumbrance: None

>with 1 copper

The clerk counts out 1 copper Kronars and hands them over, making a notation in her ledger.

>enc

Encumbrance: Light Burden

>weal

You have:
6000 copper Kronars.

Race: Rakash
Strength: 25
Stamina: 25
Discipline: 25


Sadeia.

>befriend clear all
You are now friendless.

<<Does this include the panel updated into prime?>>

No, I need to make improvements to the panel. I'm actively working on enhancing the entire SF interface (Point and Click). I just really suck at art so it's a slow process.

<<Live in TF>>

Yes.


-Ssra

"He had a lot to say. He had a lot of nothing to say."

You have:
7679 copper Kronars.

>enc

Encumbrance: None
>inv

You have nothing.
>
with 1 copper
>
The clerk counts out 1 copper Kronars and hands them over, making a notation in her ledger.
>enc

Encumbrance: Light Burden
>weal

You have:
7680 copper Kronars.

Str: 34
Stam: 30
Disc: 30
---
>enc

Encumbrance: None
>weal

You have:
7779 copper Kronars.
>with 1 copper

The clerk counts out 1 copper Kronars and hands them over, making a notation in her ledger.
>enc

Encumbrance: Light Burden
>weal

You have:
7780 copper Kronars.

Str: 35
Stam: 30
Disc: 30
---
enc

Encumbrance: None
>weal

You have:
7929 copper Kronars.
>with 1 copper

The clerk counts out 1 copper Kronars and hands them over, making a notation in her ledger.
>enc

Encumbrance: Light Burden
>weal

You have:
7930 copper Kronars.

Str: 35
Stam: 31
Disc: 30
---

All tests done as an Elothean, less than 10 minutes from start to finish, include stat trainings. Strength from 34 to 35 gave me an extra 100 coppers, while Stamina from 30 to 31 gave me 150 extra coppers. This is after Ssra's posting about the burden changes.

Thanks Ssra.

What was the formula you were using, Hanryu?

<<Please, just give us the formula Ssra?>>

What's the fun in that? [grin]

Seriously though .. maybe. Doubt it. I have to think about it.

It's not hard to figure out really - it's pretty static.

-Ssra

"He had a lot to say. He had a lot of nothing to say."

<<So, it seems the bigger the race, the less coins they can carry before reaching light burden all else equal. That's strange, right? I need more data points.>>

There shouldn't be a difference if the stats are the same. I'll check it when I get home from work -- it's possible I missed something.

-Ssra

"There is always a bigger fish."