>Hope that helps you a bit more Hanryu

No! That makes for more questions :( (j/k thanks for the info)

I'll see if I cam make that fit into the scheme. I'm still looking for data points folks. Please help.

P.S. Did you log in/out between training?

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
Keeper of the CEC
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls

I keep forgeting to send this. Hopefully I'll remember tonight when I get home.


Nikpack
player of Celeiros

-At the cleric meeting-
DARTENIAN says, "I think we all need to get down and pray for bit-based experience."
>DARTENIAN clears his throat.

I'd suggest keeping strength constant and training a bunch (5? 6? as much as possible?) with a new character, and doing the same thing keeping stamina constant. This will allow you to see any "cycles" that might appear.

There might be a "str+stam" modifier in there somewhere that would cause the shift in returns.

How many coins is it per stone? Carrying weight is probably calculated in stones, and there's probably some rounding going on as well.

I removed all the items recently obtained from the Sea Caves and the mysterious phantom weight disappeared. I have checked several times and it has not come back.

My theory currently is that when the tides came in in the sea caves her weight sent up through some sort of magical contagion effect.

>>I'm thinking its more likely to be some kind of rounding/truncation thing

I agree that this is more likely. Two interesting things: it's not halfway between, since they don't alternate, and it doesn't appear to be 1/3 of the way between since they don't appear on the same cycle mod 3. Gains of 100 on 31-32 and on 11-12, with 150 gains on 30-31, 32-33, 9-10 and 10-11. There's something else going on here, if the reported numbers are correct.

Hanryu,

I'll happily do some tests with a novice. I rolled up a novice Tog but forgot I didn't have any characters with coin near the Crossings. If you or someone else doesn't mind lending me some coins I'll do the tests.

AIM: Dragamar81

>I'll do the stamina test tomorrow if you still need some data.

I do. I'm doing the test also with a human, but I prefer at least 2 data sets. Thank you again for helping! I'll see if I can get ahold of you on AIM tonight.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
Keeper of the CEC
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls

I believe that the following formula works for all the data presented thus far (assuming that the weights presented that weren't divisible by 50 was because the character had 4 stones of "phantom weight"):

Carrying capacity in stones (to go from no burden to light):

10 * [ 2*STR + 2*STA + INT((STR+STA+4)/5) + INT((STR+STA+2)/5) ]

For capacity in coins, multiply by 5.

Basically, the way it works is that you have 0 capacity with 0 stats. You get 20 stones for STR and STA, you get a bonus 10 for the first stat and 3rd stat in a cycle of 5 (1st and 3rd, 6th stat and 8th, 11th and 13th, etc.,).

So if you have 20 strength and 20 stamina, your capacity will be 400 (STR base) + 400 (STA base) + 80 (previous bonuses) + 80 (previous bonuses) for a total of 960 stones (or 4800 coins) to light burden. If you train EITHER STR or STA, you will gain 20 for the base, and a 10 "bonus" for training your 41st (= 1 mod 5) stat, for 990 total to light burden.

There is probably a simpler way to express this formula, but this is how I have it in my Excel sheet. If someone has a simpler way to express it, let me know.

If someone finds this formula is wrong (or wants to confirm it's correct), let me know, but it seems to work with all the data that has been provided thus far.

If you post this on a website somewhere, I'd appreciate credit.

Hilbert

My bad, INT is not intelligence, it's the integer function. It just means "take the result inside and round down."

So INT(9/5)=1.

Hilbert

Damn fine work Hilbert. I have to ask, what lead you to try this..

INT((STR+STA+4)/5) + INT((STR+STA+2)/5)


I confirmed with the novice I was training. That formula is dead on for Hanryu if I shave also.

Thanks for everyone that helped with this project. If anyone's so inclined it would be nice to see this on the wiki, but I can't figure out how to add pages so...

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
Keeper of the CEC
http://www.kynevon.info/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls

Yeah, I can confirm discipline does nothing, as I trained 4 discipline recently and saw no changes.

Nikpack
player of Celeiros

-At the cleric meeting-
DARTENIAN says, "I think we all need to get down and pray for bit-based experience."
>DARTENIAN clears his throat.

Well done, sir, well done.