<<Besides, what is there to spend in game money on anymore?>>

having "updated" some of my characters prime-side, there is actually quite a bit to spend in-game money on.

as a premium member with a number of characters in every guild, there is housing. and furniture, which isn't cheap. because all of them have to have their own individual "look", and appropriate items.

Plus, there are various tools, equipment that go along with each. Craftbooks of the appropriate difficult level for those that can utilize this. Moonmage prediction tools and telescopes, from the fest for all different sects. And, there's the big stuff. I had to pay 22 plat recently to update the "dues" from my boat <the initial cost - sold when boats were still sold, was 12k plat. And I don't have one of the biggest boats - those were 20k plat. > Citizenship taxes from the applicable provinces. Plus making sure each character has a bit of money in the bank for "emergency" expenditures. Fluff and RP items that are applicable for the character. If you run a trader - right now I'm saving up for the internal room in the POC next time festival time comes around. Which will be an enormous amount. So.... there's plenty to spend IG money on!




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And what about the wealth inequality in Elanthia these days?

1% of the characters have 90% of the wealth!!

I am the 99% :(


But seriously, it may not be that drastic, but it would be interesting to see the statistics on concentration of wealth in Elanthia. It kinda seems like the only characters around these days are old ones, so most likely everyone is rich except for me.

>so most likely everyone is rich except for me

I think if I add up all my bank accounts I have maybe 500 plat. Maybe. And I've been playing Opieus for years and years. Not everyone is obsessed with being rich and powerful. Since there's nothing to buy, I'll get rich when there's something worth buying.

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"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer

>>Hardly 20 plat items.

20 plat, 50 plat, 80 plat, who cares? Everything you listed costs "basically zero"

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I already have 2 boats Gonif. I'm pulling down just under 300 plat between intercessors, and work orders, now what do i do with all that? Just became premium so I'm looking at getting a house, but seriously would that make a dent?

Alright, since I tend to take pulling platinums out of the economy as a challenge...

What WOULD you spend an insane amount of plats for? I'm talking 50k. 100k. If you guys can come up with something reasonable, I'll put it out there with an insane price tag (reasonable as defined by "I'm interested enough in the idea to code it, I can get it through approvals, and it won't be a technical nightmare). I'll even try and slide it in before HE12. No boats, no buying "LTBs, scrip, Quest tickets, etc".

Go.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

What shops?

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

*To the Teeth
*Andriane's
*Albarian Imports
*Outcast Surplus (Personal reasons for this one :)
*Tent of Bowmaster Renshear
*War and Craft

And almost anything/everything that hasn't been since since either Festival of Eluned or Lanival as long as it doesn't break things or cause a ton of extra work being that old.

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>>How about scrip? 1 scrip for 1k plat? 10k plat?

That was explicitly on the list of things not to suggest :P

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

Jump Jewelry, or any type of quick travel item that didn't have limited charges but had some kind of limited use like a certain moon being up.

<<What WOULD you spend an insane amount of plats for? I'm talking 50k. 100k.>>

becoming "guildleader for a day" in the guild of my choice.

Think of actually carrying out Kssarh's threats...


<you hear someone on the gweth ... "why are all those moonmages being tossed out the window?">

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>>Sell a barony in a province, Auction it for the title. auction a few lesser titles with a mansion with 3 or 4 room homes.

I think these are totally cool ideas, but they're more a buffer than a long term solution, unless they also hamstring earning back that money spent.

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>That was explicitly on the list of things not to suggest :P

le sigh.

2/3 aint bad? I read most of the 'no' list? Sorry.

>I think these are totally cool ideas, but they're more a buffer than a long term solution, unless they also hamstring earning back that money spent.

Uz is right. Cool ideas, but think about it. If you could pay to have a shop instant access, you would potentially have the option to MAKE money from the deal.

Buy access to the shop that no one else can afford, buy all the stuff in it, then go sell it all for super marked up prices due to the rarity. Enterprising traders would turn this into a profitable RP session, maybe. Not a bad idea to have (although it does make all those rare items very much not rare after awhile).

But the point was plat sink, not plat generator! :D

>Giving something that can cause a redistribution of plats doesn't change it from being a plat sink. If something costs 50k. Just because they might eventually make that 50k back from other players doesn't change the fact that 50k plat was taken out of the system.

But the point is the person with the 50k is going to have 50k or more still. The person with the 50k is the one complaining! That solution doesn't solve anything for the person with the 50k.

The big thing I wanted to highlight with what I said is that there is nothing wrong with, say, a 10k widget. It will definitely drain a lot of the plats in the system.

BUT, unless the economy as a whole shifts with regard to getting that money back hunting, that just means you drained the system temporarily and we'll have the same conversation in a year.

Might be interesting to have let people go on quests for a plat price. Like the conversion could be 250 plat per $1 of the price or something. So Riot would be 2500, Tower would cost 4000 plat, and Kanton would be 7500, for example.

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>Is there a reason why boats ever got removed from sale?

They're incredibly memory intensive. Like one boat takes more than the entire Crossings.

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>>If you could pay to have a shop instant access, you would potentially have the option to MAKE money from the deal.

That would totally depend on the shop in question and what sort of merchandise they had available. The shops I had listed had very few items that could generate 1/10 of 50k in sales. Even if you bought 100 of them you would doubtfully get 50k due to your own flooding of the market. So if you did want to see any sort of return for buying a ton of items there you would essentially have to sit on a stockpile of them for untold amount of time until you could sell them all off for full mark-up. Still, it would all depend on the statement in my first sentence.

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>I'm not sure we need something that costs 100k to be honest. We just need to lighten income generation.

Except that was the exact question Raesh asked, and all. Maybe?

And really, we're going to trot out the 'reduce money flowing in' argument again? I thought we'd had that argument this week already, and explained why it won't solve much of anything, and really screws the 'have nots' entirely.

I bet there are more than a few people who'd pay for a vault portal. Tap it, teleports you to your vault. Leave the vault, bam back where you started.

Heck, make it a second vault. I bet people would shell out for that.

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