PaperMakers 04/19/2022 09:14 PM CDT
I must be missing something very obvious.

I was SO EXCITED about the PaperMaker.

Today, I bought mine, and wanted to try it out immediately. Just something simple.

Water (the FIRST tribulation to find until I remembered the TownCrier's break room served water), Bark, a silver wand... all the steps mentioned in the analyze.

But then it said I was going to create a textured plain letter.

PLAIN?! That's not happy.

I figure it maybe needs some color there? So I buy a dye at the dyer's tent.

Won't work.

Remembering there was some way to convert a dye (because we can't have all dyes being equal and stuff), I had the clerk CONVERT BOTTLE.

So now the error message has changed, but it still does not work.

How many kinds of dye are there? I double checked the shop where these were sold, there's no special dye in there. there's no mention in the analyze that it needs to be special.

is this bugged?

And ... how do I get rid of the "plain" part? Because for all I know, "plain" has nothing to do with the dye to begin with. That was just my guess at the time.

Play and find out is ... not why I spend my money. Just sayin'.

Thank you for any help.


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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 12:41 AM CDT
I checked out shops and analyzed those, I think before you posted this (so no recent analyze change).

It mentions alchemy and cobbling shop friendly for the dyes!

Dyer's wagon is really old and I'd think that won't be compatible anytime soon.
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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 01:13 AM CDT
>It mentions alchemy and cobbling shop friendly for the dyes!

Thank you Mister Roblar! So what kind of dye is it when you CONVERT BOTTLE? Because, I hate to imagine there are now four kinds of dyes...

How would you tell a cobbling dye and an alchemy dye? :(

This truly should be easier than this.

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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 01:43 AM CDT
You can take your dyer's tent dye to the cobbler and have them convert it IIRC.

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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 12:56 PM CDT
What do you see when you look at and glance at the mechanism once you (think) you have it setup how you want it to make?

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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 01:05 PM CDT
>You can take your dyer's tent dye to the cobbler and have them convert it IIRC.

Thank you!, now where is this cobbler?

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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 01:07 PM CDT
> What do you see when you look at and glance at the mechanism once you (think) you have it setup how you want it to make?

Glancing at a dappled navy blue mechanism, you notice that there is enough bark pulp to
create 3 pieces of writing paper. Based on the current settings, you will create a
textured plain letter.

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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 02:31 PM CDT
Did some experimenting... Plain seems to be the default if there's no color. Dyes from the cobbling warehouses work (see the wiki under cobbling for locations). Converted dyes from the dye tent does not (but probably should?). I did not figure out a way to further convert the dye from the dye tents other than with the clerk.

>glance mech
Glancing at a utilitarian grey ironwood mechanism, you notice that there is enough bark pulp to create 4 pieces of writing paper. Based on the current settings, you will create an expensive golden invoice.
>tap my mech
You tap on a utilitarian grey ironwood mechanism, causing it to chug and whirr with a loud mechanical sound. A little flash of heat and the discharge of static electrcity lets you know that you have created an expensive golden invoice.
>push my mech
You depress a button on the side of your grey ironwood mechanism, causing an expensive golden invoice to slip out and into your waiting hand.
>glance
You glance down to see an expensive golden invoice in your right hand and a utilitarian grey ironwood mechanism in your left hand.

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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 04:21 PM CDT
Miss Thandiwe asked me to bug both the dyes ... and is working on things.

But ... Plain needs to not be a thing!

>discharge of static electrcity

Typo alert, Miss Thandiwe!
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Re: PaperMakers 04/20/2022 07:22 PM CDT
Annnd, Miss Thandiwe has fixed it, and once you ORDER BOTTLE for any of the dyer's tent dyes, it will now work in the PaperMaker!

YAY!!

Thanks Miss Thandiwe! You rock!

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Re: PaperMakers 04/21/2022 03:02 AM CDT
Excellent, thank you Thandiwe for the fix.

I agree, plain is a great option, but I'm not thrilled with it being the default if there's no dye. Having nothing there, or splitting the article/adjective for the 15s if there's nothing there, would be great.

- Andreas
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