Carefull, if you ask for comments or ideas, you might get someone who doesn't know what a suggestion is.

I like both of them, the only thing I can see is the bouncing ammo thing being akin to a different spell might get nixed by the other guilds. Boo on them if they do, yea! if they don't.

In addition to being an enchantment, have the spell (tentivily named Aether Tether) be required to be able to enchant it into the weapon/ammo.

As for the explosve arrowheads/sling ammo, it's been suggested, using Fireball as the spell enchanted into them. Glad to see you think like the rest of us;)

I would also like to see a rechargible ammo enchantment, that would have to be recharged every so often, not to exceede ten uses. Using SD to do electrical damage, AL to cause blindness, GZ to cause nerve damage, frb to do cold damage, fs to do fire damage, MOF to do residual fire damage as long as it's lodged, fos to increase impact, frs to increase slice, aether to increase puncture, ros to cause it to splinter midflight (and reunite after impact) AEL to increase puncture and impact at half the rate the single spells increase either, have ALA make the item cause periodic impact damage while lodged, and so on, but thats a basic gist of it.


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<<the only thing I can see is the bouncing ammo thing being akin to a different spell might get nixed by the other guilds.

I think I know what you mean but V. told us our enchantment system would/probably let us use spell effects from other guilds as well as our own. If you were thinking of the pallie weapon bonding spell, that's exactly what I was thinking.

As far as them complaining about it each guild is going to end up with it's own creation system sooner or later, just a matter of time. But still hoping people will relax is a bit of a strech I guess.

<<Carefull, if you ask for comments or ideas, you might get someone who doesn't know what a suggestion is.

Consider me admonished ;)

Rigek

"Heh I never really liked him anyway...he wasn't right in the head..."

<<Although, it would kind of have to be in the ammo on a thrown type weapon, wouldn't it? But I sure wouldn't want my 20 plat throwing axe to burst into flame and be destroyed upon contact.>>

In code-speak, a thrown weapon is a thrown weapon. Ammunition is ammunition. What does this mean? It means things like thrown weapons aren't treated like ammunition all the time. With enchantments I don't think you'll be seeing any exploding thrown weapon enchantments that destroy the weapon (unless it reforms in the process). A one-time use enchantment that destroys the original weapon is kinna sorta lame <G>.

~V


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Hey Valdrik?

How bout a couple of pieces with enchantments we'll be able to do eventually for the auction?


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How about its only used on FRS, and FOS.


~Worrclan, Dwarf of the Realms-

<<That could work if we didn't have to worry about them crumbling or melting.>>

Which gives me the perfect opportunity to once again ask for an enchantment that would make this permanent. I would even be happy if a Ranger had to cast that preservation beseach on it to make it permanent.

Opieus ~ Human Warrior Mage

<<I'm going to enchant it with incinerate.

As it stands now, prolly not. It's a sorcery, and to my knowledge, we're only enchanting strictly elemental stuff. Unless all of V mans nifty Blackfire changes/additions include it. That'd be nice. And the ability to scroll-write the spell would be nice too. Real nice...


~The Blackfire Mage Magmus

<<we're only enchanting strictly elemental stuff.

No

<<Like, observing harawep's bonds or halt would most likely both provide the immobilization effect, whereas aether lance or fire shard or TKT would provide a projectile effect

Yep


Rigek

"Heh I never really liked him anyway...he wasn't right in the head..."

<<
I don't have the notes anymore, but we weren't going to be limited to our own spells for enchanting, that much I recall.
>>

True... not limited to WM spells only, but effects a spell causes. So you'd have to break down the incinerate spell and what it does.

Effects:
Fire based attack
Explosion type
Causes mass external damage
Lingering room effect
(Does not damage non-corporeal undead)

Things that may happen with a weapon enchanted with these effects:
1) Weapon could have fire damage properties
2) Explosion attack: probably will effect the weapons construction of user and targets armor
3) Limited explosions (like could do an explosion every 30 seconds, not consistantly)


For halt spell
Effects:
Immobilization of Target: Caster can be Immobilized if Target Turns the spell back

Things that may happen with a weapon that is enchanted with this effect:
1) Point weapon at target and could try to immoblize it, excessive faluire can mean you get immoblized instead
2) Upon hit, target could be immoblized. Excessive failure means you get immobilized.

For Haraweps Bonds
Effects:
Web - Chance to have Target Fall Over if webs on legs strong enough
Poison

Things that may happen with a weapon that is enchanted with this effect:
1) Target is covered in webs and can not move and may fall over
2) Poison effect could be derived into the weapon

Fire Shard
Effects:
Fire based attack
Projectile type
External damage

Things that may happen with a weapon that is enchanted with this effect:
1) Weapon may have fire damage properties
2) Weapon may have projectile type attack

Now lets say you take these effects and combine them
- project attack (from fire shard)
- explosion attack (from black fire)
- web (from harawep bond)

Now when you attack
1) Weapon could shoot a blackfire ball at target which explodes like a fireball
2) Weapon can explode upon contact and send blackfire shards about
3) Has chance of webbing the target and making them fall over upon attack
4) A web of blackfire is shot at monster that slowly burns target


So many combinations and possibilities....

You can't permanently learn it, and no scroll can be scribed. It is not a TM spell.

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Can't permanently learn it... but... where did you get that scroll? damn... that think can fetch QUITE a large chunk of change...


Legionnaire Deagar,
Order of the Dragon Shield Council Member

I copied it from Yahoogroups. Any clue why it says we can permantently learn it if we can't?

Whats it do exactly?

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Incinerate.... it ummm.... incinerates? yeah that's it... I saw a bit of a log where Raenilar's pet mage cast it at someone.... it was pretty in a psycho destruction kind of way....


Legionnaire Deagar,
Order of the Dragon Shield Council Member

I actually think that IS the log I saw... isn't that a Beautiful spell? or is that just me thinkin that way....


Legionnaire Deagar,
Order of the Dragon Shield Council Member

<<The black fire bursts all around you, consuming your flesh and scorching the ground beneath your feet!
<<Your body explodes as fire bursts out from within, spraying boiling blood and burning pieces of bone in a wide circle!

Now THAT is a thing of beauty!
(Nope, it's not just you, Deagar, heh.)

<<And it might be nice if Valdrik were to update us on the status of the Weapon Enchanting proposal.>>

Its been approved for some time now. Its basically waiting for me to get done with the Spell Review.


~V


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<<And how is Mend doing these days?>>

The same way it was before the Spell Review :). I've put pretty much everything on hold for the spell review, with exception of the Cambrinth Weapon auction.


~V


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<<O and Val, pretty please make blackfire perm learnable, of give us fire mages a way to sniff out them scrolls and kill the non worthy and take them. I don't have thousands of plats to get one, and i can't find a air bubble scroll let alone a incinerate scroll. I'm a fire mage, thats all i am. i don't use lightning i hate earth and aether. just fire. and i NEEDS IT. I NEEDS IT BAD!>>

Blackfire won't be permalearnable, however, we'll have a way to reduce the held mana costs of it. As for being able to sniff them out... I doubt it, I don't think we want to encourage more violence from ya'll (you're bad enough as is =p).

-Chakram

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- Kansas

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in a war with the darkest power."

- Queen

>>Here's what gets me, though... the scrolls currently sell for upwards of 1000 plat. As far as I am aware, the scroll system only keeps X number of scrolls in circulation in the treasure system - so when you have people holding these expensive scrolls and not reading them, no more of these scrolls are generated in the treasure system.

I think you are working off of an inaccuracy, here. I don't recall hearing that there was a cap on the number of scrolls for that specific spell, but that simply it was set to be so rarely generated by the treasure system that there would probably never be a great number of them in circulation at the same time.

~Kyn (Kynevon)

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If the scroll system randomly generates a scroll, why are so many scrolls that I find Huldah's Pall? Why are the scrolls with first tier TM spells, which are being horded by certain people, so difficult to find outside of those few people?
>>

Just because they are randomly generated does not mean the ratios of each scroll are all equal.


Huldah's Pallor = 1:10 chance that it will come up in the random generation
Blackfire = 1:100 chance that it will come up in the random generation