If your not 30+ thief and in a thief only area and only talking to 30+ thieves about it then "CATCH A CLUE AND SHUT UP"

No thief who is over 30th circle is refused the info. Hell more info is given than you have questions. BUt simple fact is if your not 30+ and wearing a thief title your screwed, blued and tattooed! Beat it!!!

Why is it not seen alot? Well because we don't abuse it, it is no 5 second prep abality and it has alot of drawbacks. No I am not gonna explain them all but it takes time and skill to make and skill to apply and after applied it has a short life span. So no one can stock pile then go Postal and wipe out realms...

Nothing is truly a total secret in DR. But Thief poison is the best and longest standing one out there. We like it that way.

Soim

Even with a good empath, poison can still kill very quickly...

A certain empath of mine prepared for a bit of poison a certain friend wanted to test... three pulses dropped an empath who cast FP at max, and VH too...

Without the FP or the VH, i think two pulses was all it took...and he said 'this isnt even my good stuff'...

(BTW, this would be a 70+ thief whos been around a while, so i'd believe what he said ;)

Also...
Soim's even given lectures about poison :)

Also... Poison is one of the few things thats actually kept moderately secret to nonqualifying people...which makes those who qualify to receive it happy...

if you can crush a hog hoof you can probly make poison....thats all mech is needed for as far as I can tell. I've never bothered with the useless stuff.


~Apprentice to Damaris Ven
Of the Red Headed Step Child Guild
(RHCG)

*grins and goes out on a limb* So, how does one make the good stuff?

Due to the changes in alchemy, the real "good stuff" - the kind that kills in 1 pulse - isn't able to be made any more.

And that's all I'm gonna say about that, so this post doesn't get pulled, except to state that chain lightning kills a heck of a lot faster than poison.

---

>>secretly poisoning someone

I think that would be really neat.

Its been suggested and swatted down, you need to think of the downsides here. There would be a ton of thieves leaving food everywhere that was poisoned and a ton of people falling dead everywhere, it would be mass chaos. Not to mention the redundancy of it. We could possibly have the ability, but it would have guidelines like snipe. A) If you snipe someone unconsented, and they report, it is taken from you no questions asked. and B) If you get close enough to hit someone with poison without them knowing it, via small needle or otherwise, there are going to be massive checks to see whether or not you were seen. It would be more in line with trying to snipe someone from melee which is very hard to do. I like the idea but neither are feasible in this game, I mean, whats the point of secretly poisoning someone if you have to tell them first?


~Deuce~

~The Ever Cynical Elec

~TEH Zombie Ninja Monkey Pirate

You've gained a new rank in backstabbing.

"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."

I think it would work just fine from a consent point of view. Example: Bigjerk and I get in a fight, Bigjerk has a few circles on me, and kills my butt with CL as I try to bs him. I realize that Im toast if I wanna fight him again, and would rather laugh at his corpse then report him (which may end up in doing nothing depending on the reason we fought). I go off somewhere private, brew some poison, apply it to a small needle, then sneak up and poke him with it.

As for poisoning food, its not too much different then tricking folks into eating a surprise cake or dusk berry just before they run off to hunt. Though if we could poison food, I might have to roleplay Zailen a bit more discriminantly (as is the orphan boy eats whatever he can, be it wolf potpie, worm infested muffin, moldy cheese, or a deliciously chewy altar candle).


Zailen

>Ishtvan whispers, "Bank, you are dead."

>lean order
You lean against a recently-issued order with the words NO LOITERING printed on it in big letters.

Er yeah, I was trying to show an example of someone giving me consent.... sorta blew it due to the fact that Ive never killed anyone and only been killed by Dhimani, Tarralyn, Valcer, and Denic, and only becuase I stole from them, or provoked them.

Back on topic, I think this ability would be allot like snipe, easy to abuse, but not necassarilly a consent violation.


Zailen

>Ishtvan whispers, "Bank, you are dead."

>lean order
You lean against a recently-issued order with the words NO LOITERING printed on it in big letters.

Even if you cant check it.... didnt your mother ever tell you not to eat what is just laying around? Break out a silver piece and buy something fresh......

Okay, let's see how I can phrase this as to be discreet and still ask my question.

My Thief is 38th circle and has known how to make poison for some time, but I've never actually tried it because I can't get ahold of the proper ingredients. I don't have enough skinning to be able to skin the thing that I'm pretty sure is the only source of the ingredient I need. And I'm not a horrible slouch in skinning... considering we can't use it to circle. I'm a wee bit under 100 ranks. I just spent two hours hunting the above-mentioned things, and didn't manage to skin a single one successfully.

What the heck does one do to acquire the necessary ingredients without having hundreds of skinning ranks? Is there anything out there easier to skin that will provide what I need? Or am I supposed to make friends with a Ranger? I don't see a real effective DISCREET way of advertising that I need a bundle of certain things -- I mean, I may as well just wear a sign saying "I'm gonna make poison!"

-- player of (too) many

get your skinning up to about 130s and your agility/discipline up, then you should be able to get what you need.

Start scraping with other stuff you can skin. that'll give you some mech ranks, too, so it won't be completely wasted time.





"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."

>get your skinning up to about 130s and your agility/discipline up, then you should be able to get what you need.

From a Ranger standpoint, the harder it is to skin the better my brew was, so if you're serious about poison and want to do it yourself, keep training. But maybe I'm doing it wrong, clearly as a Ranger I can't just ask my guild leader about it. From my very basic tests (here hun, lemme shoot you with this does not go over to well, be prepared to bribe with candy and groveling) arranged sources lead to better poison, so maybe getting a ranger to do it is best anyway. Well till they open up arrange to everyone in the skinning rewrite.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
>Perhaps some of your fantasy worlds do involve tingling when a porn star gently touches you, but I don't think that's the kind of fantasy Simu's going for. ~ Sefkowk

I have a lot of extras if your in need too. I'm in the Lang/Haven area.
~Mershad


Not all of us follow a code. That much is evident.

<<Since we're talking poison, what kinda juice can I make as a Ranger with ~400 skinning and ~300 mech? >>

prep haraweps bonds 30...



"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."

And doesnt require the 15 min + of preparation for one attack.


Farewell, remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good.
~Paradise Lost (bk. IX, l. 171)

>Since we're talking poison, what kinda juice can I make as a Ranger with ~400 skinning and ~300 mech? Westie or viper better for killing in PVP? - Teeklin

You might have seen my posts in the Ranger Trophy Hall folder about poisons on critters. Its cute and fun and usually kills faster than I can reload my slurbow and finish a full aim. Of course it teaches nothing so its just for show.

Poison on PCs is another story. The same poison that drop can ogre quickly did very little to my wife's empath character (only 24 stamina, 20 discipline). It showed as critically strong poison, but it never pulsed, or if it did so it was super slow/weak.

Feel free to contact me at HanryuDR if you wanna chat more about what sources I've tested, I'm not sure if they should be secret or not.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
>Perhaps some of your fantasy worlds do involve tingling when a porn star gently touches you, but I don't think that's the kind of fantasy Simu's going for. ~ Sefkowk

Poison is still considered an in-game secret (just like HOW you get all the various khri/abilities, into guilds, etc.), and its mechanics are too.

-Z

>>Poison on PCs is another story. The same poison that drop can ogre quickly did very little to my wife's empath character (only 24 stamina, 20 discipline). It showed as critically strong poison, but it never pulsed, or if it did so it was super slow/weak.

Anecdotal and second hand, but a friend of mine made some poison about six months ago, nicked his wife with it, and it grew tremendously. FWIW. I still don't know how to make poison, personally. I figure I'll try it out someday if I feel like it.


-- Holy Scholar Diarik Erasto, Arcane Researcher, in search of spiritweaving.
http://www.rangerrawb.com/wiki/index.php/User:Diarik
http://www.livejournal.com/users/pensive-spirit/

>Remind yourself that target magic is technically a magic primary perk even though SvX spells are more effective, collect a large wad of spit into your mouth, and then discharge.

Vitriol and bile are toxic, but not really poison. More of an acid, really.