Have the Houses always been around since the inception of the game or were they released later. My Elothean has been around on and off since the AOL days and I don't remember much information about them from back them. I don't remember the character descpritions when I developed my character history and house (that doesn't mean they didn't exist)but I've found she isn't quite right. What should I do? A quiet shift or adjust my history.
Any advice?

I can't wait to see more with the House System! As well as merchants with real Elothean style clothes and the crests!

Great job !


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Umm as many times as we HAD to kill Taber He had favors he just had been killed over a few dozen times since his time being around by resistance members. Just because people aren't in shard doesn't mean things didn't happen. Personally i feel those who supported the outcast choose a role and should stick with it. I guess being a Commander the betrayal stung. Full pardon to those who just supported fine.

For those who betrayed the three and thier own people? I think the elothean houses would frown on such actions if outright don't kill them for such actions. In my mind the Outcast were forced out and Raenilar did point out valid reasons, his guards were being murdered daily, they were very unwelcome and if they were to stay they would have to had to fight everyday of thier lives becuase some people wouldn't have given up.

I love the elothean houses and really do hope things are Rp'ed and play according to history on a lot of things concerning the houses. I think the houses open up a whole new area of RP for Elotheans and other races alike. So why stop Rping.


Those who pride themselves on being the Hunter can easily become the prey.

How I see it: The Outcasts were trying to live in a place with a populous that hated them and neighbors that despised them and ex-allies that were problematic while the original factors that caused them to combine into a strong cohesive unit that followed Raenilar into battle and fight in ways they had never fought before desolved slowly, while new visions surfaced that indicated that things after the taking of the Shard might not be all rosey and Shard might not be the promised land so to speak or the best place for their people to be, while cultural forces wrecked their inevitable slow influences on the Outcast culture, while the Outcasts in Shard were separated from their Clans in the desert, and while they all got some first hand reminders of who they were and how they used to live watching Yhaman raid from the desert. Raenilar's decision is understandable.

I really do hope that those Elotheans that helped the Outcasts are not allowed to join the Elothean Houses. I can imagine why someone would do a total about face. IC: The world is full of scum that will do just that to be on what they think is going to be the winning side or retain some semblance of power. OOC: there are plenty of people are addicted to events and who will re-write on the drop of a hat just to chase a new event.

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I agree with Halanny, and I think that an amnesty towards former traitors is in order. It would be an act of compassion worthy of Kukalakai, and set the tone for the future.

I'll just pipe in and say that I do believe that folks that 'sided' with the Outcasts should need to accept the responsibility of their choices. For some, I think this would mean following the Outcasts into the desert to join and live with their new 'clan'. For some, I feel that a trial would be in order to determine what extent they collaborated with the people that slaughtered the Ferdahl. I think it is reasonable that the Houses would not wish to take in an Elothean as their own if there was a cloud of doubt over them.

That being said, I also feel this is a game. I think that folks that were 'associated' with the Outcasts should not be made to pay forever and a day for their choices if they decide they want to turn coat again...heh...I could see a trial and short exile 'absolving' their crimes thereby clearing them to join a House if they then wished to. I agree there should be forgivness, but people that collaborated with the Outcasts DID make a RP'ing choice to do that...I don't think we should sitck their heads on pikes or anything nutty like that, but its not unreasonable that they should have some repercussions for the choices they made.

I know I chose to be in the Ilithi resistance, and for a year, I got to beg for help from Rangers and MM's to get past the checkpoint, had to sneak into town if I wanted to talk to my guildleader, and in the past few months, was a target of the Outcast 'attacks'. I didn't cry foul, even though they were definately inconviences. It was all a result of my choice to do that...I think those helping the OC's got into it knowing what could happen. As long as the punishment isn't extreme and does not last indefinately, I think it's reasonable to have some repercussions.

Kythryn
~ Supposing you have tried and failed again and again. You may have a fresh start at any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. -Mary Pickford ~

<<DR is supposedly an RP game as such there needs to be consequences for actions.>>

Yeah except the reason the Outcasts lost is because SIMU cusomers simply would not accept the fact that the Outcasts had won and simply would not stop complaining until the GM's came to the conslusion that the aggravation of have the Outcasts in Shard was simply not worth it anymore and decided to bascily run a few interactions between GMNPCs and then on one day just make them all leave and go home.

More reaslictly the Outcasts would never have just gotten homesick and decided one weekend lets pack up our stuff and head on back to home. In a perfect world those that supported the Outcasts would be able to find sancuary in the Outcasts home. However due to a OCC ending to the event and there being no macanichs to support Outcasts supporters acaully finding scanuary I find it silly to say, well you were on the losing side of the battle so face the consequences. In a RP game the Outcasts would have walked all the resistors rather then just a beheading and a simple to skirt around exsile. Everybody always wants the full "RP" consequences when its comes to other people but when its them on the losing side of the battle its suddenly all about playability and fun.

<<Yeah except the reason the Outcasts lost is because SIMU cusomers simply would not accept the fact that the Outcasts had won and simply would not stop complaining until the GM's came to the conslusion that the aggravation of have the Outcasts in Shard was simply not worth it anymore and decided to bascily run a few interactions between GMNPCs and then on one day just make them all leave and go home.>>

I will always disagree with that being the only reason the outcast lost, sorta really discredits everyone who actually worked IG against the outcast for even doing anything. Most poeple feel if they weren't involved it wasn't happening but to each their own.

<<More reaslictly the Outcasts would never have just gotten homesick and decided one weekend lets pack up our stuff and head on back to home.>>

IG there i feel were many reasons why the outcast would go home. The climate in Ilithi is diffrent from the climates of a Desert by far. The simple day to day life styles are diffrent the things a desert tribe would do compared to those of the Clans living in Ilithi is extreamly diffrent. Added to that the fact most likely others were going to stop trade with the outcast, they were meeting with heavy resistance on a day to day bases thier guards were being murdered. They had a world against them with few allies, and given thier past alliance had been in a way betrayed in peace talks they had more enemies then i can count.

<<In a RP game the Outcasts would have walked all the resistors rather then just a beheading and a simple to skirt around exsile. Everybody always wants the full "RP" consequences when its comes to other people but when its them on the losing side of the battle its suddenly all about playability and fun.>>

As Kythryn stated those who resisted were met with force and hardships, Tabers main goal was to eleminate every one of the resistance members. Trust me he hunted us down all of us killing each one he found alone sleeping or not. Those of the resistance did choose the RP and accepted the good with the bad. I'm not talking about punishing those who supported the outcast who are other races they in my mind mostly left when the Outcast did. The whole point was to bring to light the Elotheans who worked against thier own people during the war and who spoke out against thier leaders in a harsh mannor. Honestly it would be acceptable if those elotheans and players were given a choice.

A) pay a 100 plat fine (or whatever amount)
B) exile from iltihi for how many IG years or months
C) lose rights to be members of houses all the perks and things to come with being in a house included.
D) Do none of the above "take thier ball and go home because things didn't go thier way" (which is always someones choice to refuse to participate in events period in my mind no one was forced into the resistance nor was anyone forced to support the outcast)
E) Let the Three and the Ferdahl decide thier fates.

To me being in a house is a honor for Elotheans from what i understand, Not a right. Given circumstances and choices of the people during the war Elothean houses if they choose to pick one should have the right to deal with them in the way they see fit. Their Loyalty as a race is clearly defined and i think that is a important aspect of Role playing a Elothean.

Those who pride themselves on being the Hunter can easily become the prey.

<<It is whispered amongst less-sophisticated courts that the reason Elotheans rarely resort to war is because of a secret society amongst them that takes care of the dirty business of intimidation and assassination."

CoughGreyCouncilCough

Out of all seriousness, I think they (the events/race GM's) may be going that way. If you look into into a little more, perhaps your characters can get more information than some did in meeting the Three. However, both IC'ly and OOC'ly, I very much believe the Grey Council is about, live and very angry. However, I disagree killing people now is as effective as killing people when the war was goingon in Shard...it seems counter-productive, and is stirring MORE emotions. But, it is an interesting plot twist and will proove to be good RP down the road.

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A golden diadem hangs suspended in cerulean field. Perfectly engraved diamonds and citrines adorn this symbol of the ruling House of the Elothean people.

<<I'll just pipe in and say that I do believe that folks that 'sided' with the Outcasts should need to accept the responsibility of their choices. For some, I think this would mean following the Outcasts into the desert to join and live with their new 'clan'. For some, I feel that a trial would be in order to determine what extent they collaborated with the people that slaughtered the Ferdahl. I think it is reasonable that the Houses would not wish to take in an Elothean as their own if there was a cloud of doubt over them.

As someone whom RP'ed on the 'side' of the Outcasts during the war, I agree with the generality that any Elothean character whom supported them should be looked at with...speculation. On the other hand, I can vouch for some of these characters and say: Raenilar wanted nothing to do with Elothean PC's whom wanted to help the Outcasts. He knew enough about their social structure and made it a point to tell my character not to use intelligence gathered from 'friendly' Elotheans. He also said not to be-friend them, trust them, etc...for that reason, to play devil's advocate, I feel all Elotheans should be allowed to join the houses but, in later RP -- maybe investigate their roles, etc.

<<Although for the most part my arguments about pardons were about the player base as a whole who supported the Outcasts not just any Eloths who supported the Outcasts.

If the new Ferdahl wanted to exile players, I imagine her realm would be only of Shard (like the Outcasts), and I would agree to it. However, on the same hand, I imagine King Raenilar would also be helping my character due to their business relationship and their friendship...when both parts of the deal are reached, I'll talk business. Until then, for the sake of playability for all people, let any Elothean join the houses (since in reality, people have RP'd being apart of them anyway) and down the road let trials be for the 'traitors', both Elotheans and non-Elotheans, as long as the system supports both sides.

~The Blackfire Mage Magmus

Not letting Outcast supporters join houses is nothing about punishing the 'losers'. Even if Shard was still in Outcast hands the houses still wouldn't let those disloyal to the Ferdahl into houses.

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just a quick thought...

Thank you for this system, even if I don't know much about it yet. I have been struggling with the lack of RP in DR and this is a nice step in the right direction. Thanks.

Amala/Lilie

Not that I see at the moment, but checking into that.

-Vaeldriil


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Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay

The scroll is now in TF, and you can find a book about the Houses by going to the library in the basement level of the Great Tower. :)


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House of the All Seeing Eye




Should we wait or give up hope?

Out of curiosity, if there is a way to join, I'm not asking how.... I just want to know if there is or isn't, so I dont spend weeks looking for something that doesn't exist

If you know, please just give me a yes or no

There is no current way to join the house of the all seeing eye.It has been said that at some point in the future it may be possible but not under the current join house mechanics.Since all seeing eye is a special case as is glittering diadem there would be additional reqs for joining those houses if they ever allow it at all.That is a paraphrase of the elothean gurus posts but i didnt feel like hunting them down.

Yep, that's just about right. While room was left in the mechanics to make it possible, currently (and we no plans to have it otherwise) the House of the All-Seeing Eye and the House of the Glittering Diadem are not joinable purely via mechanics.

This doesn't mean *at all* that people have to stop roleplaying that they're in X House, they just won't have a big sign at the end of their name telling people about it -- which, in one of those Houses, you wouldn't want to have anyway. ;)

While I'm at it, I'm going to tease that something new, though relatively small, is coming for Houses. SOOOOOOOOOON. (Cue mystery music!)


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Good question. I'm undecided! Maybe something of both?


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Hey guys! As many of you are aware, I've been restoring House post titles for people who accidentally delete theirs from their post title lists. This is because the post title system can be a bit complicated at times, some things delete the post titles without your realizing it (such as military badges), etc.

It has recently come to my attention that some people have been purposefully deleting their House post titles for one reason or another, and then assisting to have a GameMaster replace it. This isn't acceptable. I can understand if it's accidentally deleted a time or two, but over and over in the exact same way is a bit much. Those who are doing this will no longer have the post title replaced, and will simply have to wait until their respective House is live IG to get the post title restored. Thanks!



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Elothean Champion Duo
Weddings Team

"I was married once in an online fantasy game. We were thinking of having children, but it would have severely drained my power crystals." -- The Simpsons, comic book guy

They are very still houses, and six feet under.

My guess is they were some form of militant minded house.