"The last set of changes to the Holy Weapon gave us a way to CHANGE your current Holy Weapon to another one, but NOT a way to replace one that is lost, i.e. a way to "re-do" the Quest if you lose the Holy Weapon which is how I'm reading your question."

Yes you read the question correctly. I guess i am hoping that at some point they will release a way to "re-do" the quest or at least an optional way to replace a lost weapon. Either by doing some sort of repentance or additional quest. Anyway else have any thoughts on the matter?

1. Smite compatibility -- increase damage of smite when using the HW. Maybe not have it drain the smite pool.
2. Lead compatibility -- make Paladins more effective at leading when waving their Holy Weapons about.
3. Curse of Zachriedek immunity
4. Light source -- it's holy and it shines.
5. Chance to stun with each hit -- divine retribution and all that.
6. Improved parry ability with the HW -- would love it to return damage if it successfully parries an undead attack. Make it able to parry Necromancy/Sorcery spells or act as a barrier against them.
7. Tie it into sixth sense -- pulses or brightens when danger is approaching (hidden or not). Shamless LOTR ripoff I know, but we won't limit it to orcs.


~Thilan

Can crossbows/bows be chosen as holy weapons?


-Landros

With the upcoming changes to RW, why not.

I still haven't gone through the full HW quest so I'm eager to know


-Landros

1. The idea of the "weapon growing with you" refers to your increasing soul pool as you circle and/or train certain stats that effect it.... The greater your maximum soul pool (total it can hold... not how bright it is currently) effects the benefits of the holy effect upon the weapon... this is my conclusion and is not backed up by any comments made by those who would be further in the know then us wielders of the weapons. (I feel its based on both how good you are... and how good you can be considered to be)

2. I have not swung nor struck out at another of the 11 races with my holy weapon... But the gods warn you against it... I heard rumor that it will lose all its charges the first swing and break the next... so dont confuse it with another simular weapon when and if you earn one... there are ways to tell the weapon is holy once you have one.

3. the weapon can be utilized beyond the holy charge within it... it simply wont have any of the benefit of holiness after you run the charges down... you can always recharge it provided you meet what is necisary to do so and still pocess the weapon.

4. I've read also about the quest to replace a holy weapon... but have experienced nothing IG that mentions this.

5. there are icons that have the ability to partially recharge a holy weapon away from a altar of Chadatru designed for weapon recharging... the paladin council has restricted all information pertaining to it's construction tho ... and has sole right of distrubing these to who they want to...

6. brawling weapons add damage to an attack or manipulate the attack to effect differant damage catagories... they are in and of themselves not a "weapon" and cannot be made holy...

7. you can use a forged weapon as a holy weapon... you are not guaranteed even if its registered that you will get a replacement if you lose it... personally I can only think of one way that it would be considered for replacement... and that's if you had some sort of charicter corruption.... otherwise its pretty much your fault if you lose it.... isn't it? crashes dont mean a replacement... but in the case of holy weapons... sometimes we are given a little extra consideration... tho it aint certain in any way. The concern surrounding forged weapons being holy was that if it was allowed to be replaced there would be no way to prove its stats... registering it seems would negate this concern. (personal note: Dont use your holy weapon in a vykathi reaper invasion... it's a real pain to track the correct reaper an kill it to get yer weapon back)

8. I think you'll find it very difficult to even get someone else to touch your holy weapon.... let alone a merchant or alterer to change it... you will need to alter the weapon before making it holy.... however there are exceptions that have occured... tho i wouldnt make any expectations...

feels good to be on the answering side instead of the asking questions side reffering to Holy weapons... It is deffinetly worth having.

With all these restrictions it almost sounds like it's better to just get a cleric blessing on your main weapon.

<<Or just keep brawling your main weapon with a high soul state and go it like that.

Ya mind explaining that to me? I heard reference to something like this before, but I'm apparently missing something. Paladins brawling get bless effect or something?

It's the same as with Clerics.

Keep your soul state high end pristine, and you do damage to non-corporeal undead while brawling.

There are some problems with swapable weapons but Maece can explain that. Well, it took me six weeks capped off by assisting every time i logged in to get other GM's to fix that problem and explain it to me so Im assuming she actually knows.

Your fancy weapon loses special verbs and etc if you make the weapon holy. It was explained to me that weapons can only hold 1 script and being holified means the weapon has the holy script. So if its a claymore that woooshes or etc I'd assume youd lose that part.

Holy weapon quest came out before brawling weapons so I'd assume they wouldnt work. Some brawling weapons increase damage but elbow spikes appraise just like other weapons. I suppose you could always try but Id hate for you to wait months before a GM gets around to fixing it.

Every so often you move up to a heavier weapon. With a Holy weapon your stuck with its weight. If the holy bonus growth exceeds the benefits of moving to a heavier weapon then you've got something that youd want to use. If the holy growth is less than the punch from the extra weight then you have a weapon destined for storage.

I've posted askin if anyone has completed or knows of someone who has completed the change weapon quest. So far nuthin. I wouldnt be depending on that quest.

Clerics bless weapons, totems bless weapons, and using the smite ability slaps a bless on. While holy weapons having a perma bless regardless of charge is nice its not that hard to get your hunting weapon blessed.

I think holy weapons are more fluff than weapon. Mine is a dust catcher in the vault. I'd go with something for rp value or you just like the look of. I dont think holy weapons were designed as a tribute to diminishing returns but it just worked out that way.

AKA Rumael

<<So if I want to make a weapon that has cambrinth >>

Camb is supposed to works. I remember a post a while back about that. Never seen it used tho so best of luck.

AKA Rumael

I am eligible to undertake the Holy Weapon quest, but I am having trouble deciding which weapon to use. (I would prefer not to have to change it later.)

My primary weapon is twohanded edged. As an Elf, I am more likely to focus on Agility than Strength and Stamina.

Here are my current stats:

Strength : 28 Reflex : 31
Agility : 31 Charisma : 28
Discipline : 30 Wisdom : 27
Intelligence : 27 Stamina : 27

Weapons I currently own:

BASTARD SWORD
Weight: 36 stones
2HE: low/severe/fair reasonably/reasonably
HE: poor/great/low reasonably/fairly
Construction: moderately strong
Advantages: dual mode, lighter, better balanced
Disadvantage: This is my primary weapon, and my understanding is that you are penalized for using your Holy Weapon too often. If my Holy Weapon is useless as a daily hunting weapon, I won't want to use my bastard sword.

GREATSWORD
Weight: 50 stones
Stats: low/bone-crushing/fair poorly/reasonably
Construction: very strong
Advantages: better slice damage, can be wielded from pole range
Disadvantage: too heavy to use without Courage; poorly balanced

I know that I want it to be a twohanded edged weapon. The question is whether I should use one of these weapons, or should I be looking for a different weapon?

I would certainly get a weapon you will grow into since you seem to be getting your holy weapon right at the start of being able to. In 20 or 30 circles your stats will be much higher and you wont want some lightweight weapon when you can handle more. Though on the plus size, these days there is a quest to change your holy weapon, so you can always do that in the future. But I would at the moment be inclined to wait on getting a HW untill we see what combat fatigue changes do, we may be finding that even if we have stats for min RTs on our weapons we may go for lighter anyways.

You're not penalized really if your holy weapon is your primary weapon. Your holy weapon gains an certain amount of charges based from what I understand off your circle and charisma. So say you have 300 strikes with your weapon before it needs to be recharged. If thats your main weapon, you might burn through them in a good day of hunting and have to recharge the weapon regularly. If you burn through all the strikes, you have to recharge your weapon once to make it capable of holding the charges and then again to actually charge the weapon (I believe the wait between charges is about 5 hours). If you swing it once before the second time you charge it, you need to start over again.

Another thing you might want to look for is to get a fest or merchant weapon instead of forged. If for some reason you're hunting, the game crashes and your weapon goes poof, the GMs will only replace forged weapons with store bought equivalences. If its from a fest or merchant, however, they'll have actual records of those stats and can replace that with less of a problem.

Normally I'd say get a weapon thats swappable or has two different uses (like a HE/HT), but since you're 2HE primary I'd say to hell with it, buy an 80 stone greatsword and grow into it. Edged weapons that you can swing from pole range are almost as good, and it won't be too much longer before you'd be able to swing an 80 stone one without a problem. And if for some reason you decide down the line that you picked the wrong weapon, once an actual year you can do a quest to swap weapons.

The charging timer has been lowered to one hour in between charges.


-Mr. Glemm

I just don't like an ability that makes you worry about how you're using it even when you're doing everything right. No one wants to count charges. Sure the mechanic might be less punitive than before, but I still think it's conceptually flawed.

<<I just don't like an ability that makes you worry about how you're using it even when you're doing everything right. No one wants to count charges. Sure the mechanic might be less punitive than before, but I still think it's conceptually flawed.

FWIW, I have not gone on the holy weapon quest for this reason.

Madigan

Free the Paladin Guild in 2009.

Not done it either. Was all super excited about it till i hit 50th and it was like.. whats the point; recharging it every couple of hours of combat.. no thanks


~Maryhana

I'm partial to getting my curved Aldauth scythe-blade turned into my holy weapon once I decide to take a super way long break from hunting to do the quest.

Too bad I don't train ME. :/


- Sir Korsik Rippentropp, Most Noble Paladine

Crusader against the Innocent
Defender of All That is Wrong

If I had an icon it'd be different. I'd pay 500-1000 plat for one. Hook it up Dart


~Maryhana

<< I have an icon and it is a shame the quest has not been finished for it because it is handy in a protracted fight. It is not the best recharging tool though. Need to go to the altars to top it off. >>

What do you mean by having to go to the altars to top it off? Are you just refering to getting the weapon to full charge? I know the icons dont give as full of a charge as the icons. Or do you mean the icon itsself needs a charge? If the icon needs charging, then thats pretty lame. If its just getting a weapon full charge, so long as you can top it off again with the icon, who cares?