Stuff I'm remembering from the Con:

Herbs will not be able to heal what doesn't exist anymore in other words; stumps and missing parts are going to need empaths.

There'll be more herb messaging, you'll know what's being healed and when the herb stops working.

You'll be able to target applications of herbs, rub pulps and salves on multiple limbs without feeling sick to your stomach.

There maybe side effects from some herbs, like vertigo from nerve healing herbs.

Herbs will have a preferred form to be useful, (Polvik tea as is now is a very weak way of using polvik leaf) and a preferred way of using, potions to drink, salves to rub..possible overdosing from over use.

Ability to see the number of uses left on the herb, salve or potion.

Seasonal herbs - possibly some herbs only available during certain seasons,

Foraged Herbs need drying or preserving or they would decay.

Possibly rare herbs only available in one place at a specific time of day during a few days a year that would produce rare special potions.

During either the empath session or the healing session it was suggested by a player that empaths might be able to tell which herbs a patient had recently used that might still be working on his or her system.

I'm sure I missed something..Oh expect release of the initial system sometime in July, possibly end of June, but no commitment other then "real soon now".

<<So, I just figured I'd ask... is this known/being worked on/a mystery to everyone/waiting on Substances 2.3493849 to be fixed/what? >>

I'll answer.. ..the entire substance system/alchemy system is being redone by Fial..it's in the "very soon" to be released stage.

Herbs will work in their prefered form then.

Herbs will no long work on missing body parts, you'll need an empath. Herbal potions made by empaths will have more potency. There will be eye and nerve herbs. Herbs will decay. Herbs may have side effects.

Very soon now..

He promised..

<<I had a similar experience, but Fial explained why it happened. What were your wounds and what were you trying to heal?

Steel >>

Had a couple internals and a bunch of scuffings (Adan'f don't play well with others). Ate a bit of yelith root inside my spidersilk sack.

<<Yelith probably took all your wounds from the high end of that range to the low end of the same range.

Steel. >>

As I said, the herb simply behaved improperly. It pulsed once and then did nothing else. I could eat it again immediately afterwards, getting the tingly message. Minute I took it out of the sack, it performed as it should. (8-10 pulses over a fairly long duration, actually fixed the slight internal leg bleeder.)

I can assure you it had nothing to do with the 'range' of a slight bleeder.

Were you hiding when you took your bit of yelith? I've run into the bug you describe before.

Ryeka

Hmm- Okay.

Ryeka the puzzled

<<Were you in RF? >>

Nope. I wasn't leaving out any important information, far's I know. I knew about the hiding+herbs bug, so if it'd been something like that I wouldn't have bothered to post it.

Was just kinda wondering if it was a known issue or a new problem, or if my character's just screwed up.

I ran into another person whose herbs were acting like some kind of mismanufactured Tyco toy, so I figure it can't be JUST me.

<<can something be done to give herbs back their teeth?>>

Maybe empaths will have a spell or manipulation ability regarding this.


Amo


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Some herbs are much more effective when used one way than they are when used another. For instance, yesterday a death spirit gave me a pretty nasty cut on my arm. After I killed the spirit and tended my arm, I ate a bite of jadice flower- and with the next pulse I felt much better, and I had no bleeder. I probably should eat pulps too- the yelith pulp that I rubbed on didn't have as powerful an effect. Salves, on the other hand, have to be applied.

Ryeka


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>rub my hisan salve
You rub some hisan salve.

This is a pain for me too. You can't rub it anymore, it's not a verb you can use. Notice all you did was effectively RUB the HISAN SALVE. You didn't rub it..onto yourself. That's why you got no messaging, and didnt use it up.


~Asrea

Sorry I didn't take the time to read through this folde first, but here's a question for y'all:

>health
Your body feels at full strength.
Your spirit feels rather shaky.
You have a severely scarred, mangled and malformed left arm, a severely scarred, mangled and malformed left leg, a severely swollen and deeply bruised right hand compounded by cuts and bruises about the right hand, a severely scarred, mangled and malformed left hand.

eat root in my haver
[Script]>You eat a portion of a cebi root.
::wait a second::
You get an itching sensation around your left arm.
You get an itching sensation around your left leg.
You get an itching sensation around your left hand.

Your body feels at full strength.
Your spirit feels rather shaky.
You have a severely scarred, mangled and malformed left arm, a severely scarred, mangled and malformed left leg, a severely swollen and deeply bruised right hand compounded by cuts and bruises about the right hand, a severely scarred, mangled and malformed left hand.

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So even after my wounds itch, they aren't any better. I eat root, wait a minute or two, get itches, check health....nothing. Wait for a while, nothing happens. Eat more root, wait a minute, get itches, check health....nothing.

I've gotten itches around 8 times now, still severely scarred, mangled, malformed.

No empaths around M'riss. Herbs really this slow or am I doing something wrong?

Tessaa

That sucks. So um....I just gweth once an hour or so asking for an empath and hope eventually I get lucky?

I want to hunt <cries>.

Tessaa

P.s. Damn quick reply, thanks.

>I've gotten itches around 8 times now, still severely scarred, mangled, malformed. No empaths around M'riss. Herbs really this slow or am I doing something wrong? Tessaa

Tessa,

You're doing everything right. The scar herb just don't work well on those severe scars. I've had another empath watch mine while eating cebi or hisan to see how much I could bring them down, and I got tired of finishing the test before I ever got rid of the severe scars. You might try the specific scar herbs and see if they work any better. IE: Jadice Pollen for the external limbs.

If you don't get a chance, I'll try it tomorrow, unless someone chimes in that's already given it a whirl.


Xochi

Those were some ridiculously quick responses.

Now all of you empaths come heal me on Mriss.

Cheers,
Tessaa

This might not help you if you're not near a herb store, otherwise...

Get y'self some jadice pollen by all means. That's the specialty for limb scars and it's more concentrated and affective on it. ; )

Hopefully, someday, empaths will use their empathy to infuse special healing powers into potions and herbs and such...then you can heal faster. Or, maybe we can create what I fondly think of as "insta'path"...just add water and Poof! an empath appears to take your wounds. (What? No, of course I'm not joking! Why would I? Sheesh. Not trusting my good intentions or what?)

<mutter>

Amo


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>><can something be done to give herbs back their teeth?>>
Especially cebi and hisan.

Life as an empath is much more tedious for me now that I have to clean up all of those scars with magic. At circle 21 I still don't have enough mana to heal up wounds and scars, too.

<<can something be done to give herbs back their teeth?>>

I missed the beginning of this thread, but have you tried drying the herbs before using them? Sufil seems to respond extremely well to being dried, for one.

~ Mehathi

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Is the difference significant enough to even warrant me making the trip to get a pyramid? I don't like to travel, but if its much more effective I'll try it to dry it.

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Posted by "that Healer of Doom, The Empath of Destruction! Yazegi!"

I'll have to give that a try with yelith and cebi.

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Posted by "that Healer of Doom, The Empath of Destruction! Yazegi!"

Hmm- Looks like I need to invest in a pyramid!

Ryeka


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