Mind you, the title is supposed to be 'Respec Question'

Respec is an option, not mandatory.

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"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh

Ah, gotcha, thanks.

Ya, that's mech abuse I bet. Not remotely the intention of a system.

And it's respec. Not respect.

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Hm. I hadn't really considered the extremes to which the dual respecs can be used, such as this. It may be the case that with proper explanations of what each stat does, one respec is all that is really necessary to give people the tools to make the right choices.

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

Or it may not. You still need to decide. :-) If you do eventually find this plan of mine objectionalbe, say "It is Mech Abuse, to do this. DON'T!", leave it at 2 respecs and move on to something else.

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>If you do eventually find this plan of mine objectionalbe, say "It is Mech Abuse, to do this. DON'T!", leave it at 2 respecs and move on to something else.

Ya. That will certainly stop people.

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Also, was there any word on being able to turn on/off the bonus pool per-skill set? Even if it were on a largish timer, it'd be nice to be able to not use it for some things.

>> months or years?

Quicker than you might think. Codiax made a post when Test first opened showing the drain rate of the bonus pools, and at the ranks you are talking about you will use those bits very quickly. Without knowing your exact numbers, and other info (play time/style and other factors) I'd say months at the most if you do nothing but focus on the lore pool.

The way I seem to remember it working is the higher the skills you are training then the more bits per pulse that it is going to use.

>>No timer at this time but I'm considering adding one per-skillset.

As the skillset bonus isn't timed, I don't think it can be abused in the same way an RPA can be. Just thought I'd throw that out there :)

~ Leilond
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>Oh, yeah, that. Just added it to Test. Syntax is EXP BONUS TOGGLE {SKILLSET}. No timer at this time but I'm considering adding one per-skillset.

Typo:

>exp bonus toggle lore
You will no longer drain additional experience frmo your Lore bonus pool.

That's for all toggles.

~Minstrel Ascot, Bladesinger of M'riss

>On a related note, I think learning rates should be completely standard and unaffected by any stats. Int/wis will be important for some guilds and not for others, why should some characters get a learning rate bonus for raising their important stats? Or, tie learning rates for each guild to two stats in the SOI.

Do I really need to point out why this is stupid?

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>>>On a related note, I think learning rates should be completely standard and unaffected by any stats. Int/wis will be important for some guilds and not for others, why should some characters get a learning rate bonus for raising their important stats? Or, tie learning rates for each guild to two stats in the SOI.

Strength and reflex would be the exp stats for barbarians? What would be the point of int/wis then? Or are you suggesting we move to a model that has god stats and dump stats for each guild, sort of like D&D?

I think, at this point in DR's history, you're talking about a game that is not Dragonrealms, much like whenever someone suggests eliminating skillsets.

I would like to throw it out there that there are those of us who are not waiting to convert 800+ ranks of vocals who very much want to retain two stat respecs. I promise I won't abuse my 41.60 free ranks!

(Not trying to be sarcastic, just a little humorous).

>>Hm. I hadn't really considered the extremes to which the dual respecs can be used, such as this. It may be the case that with proper explanations of what each stat does, one respec is all that is really necessary to give people the tools to make the right choices.

Please don't change well-intended game design based on a semi-harebrained idea that wouldn't even really work all that well. If he wants to completely give up hunting, plus potentially give himself more burden and longer forging RTs to deal with, just to work off his bonus exp pools slightly faster, I really don't see why anyone would care.

Isn't there going to be a limited time on how long the free respecs are available anyways? That's seems good enough to me.

Apu
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I know this is a far fetched question but is there any way (and this may be too much to ask) that when you type respec it will tell you what youd get back in tdps? Im fine with only one respec but my worry is not knowing if Im short changing myself by doing the respec. My character was made long before the days of set racial starting stats and over the years Ive bought spell slots, erasures, etc. This coupled with the fact that Im going to be circling about 30 times when 3.0 hits (what can I say... I like the new MM reqs better heh) means that Im totally unsure of if Im gaining or losing anything by respeccing or not.

If all that is covered by the tdps Ill get upon the conversion then peachy and I can just modify my current stats, but if the respec will alter my tdp amount Id like to know before I potentially shot myself in the foot.

~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani

"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."

>Your TDP total won't change at all whether or not you respec.

Is there any way to tell if you have TDP debt? That information would be really nice.

Elemental Lord Opieus, Master Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer

> If all that is covered by the tdps Ill get upon the conversion

This. The only thing respec does is refund the tdps that are currently tied up in your stats.

>>Log into the test server and type INFO.

Or EXP or TDP

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>>The two respecs were a reasonable thing to do, but to be totally honest I don't think there will be a whole of reason to USE two respecs.

It took me at least 4 respecs on the test server before I got my stats to look like how I wanted them. It's not like there is any way to plan out your stats beforehand, so a couple times I screwed myself over by not leaving enough to train my final stat. Also with no way to train up to 99 in a single command, a couple times I accidentally overtrained past 99 and would've wasted a ton of TDPs (especially the time I went up to 120)

Now sure if I was paying attention as if my life depended on it, I would not make any of those mistakes and one respec would be plenty. But why make something an enormous pain in the ass for everyone in the game just to stop Magdar from emptying his bonus exp pool a tiny bit faster? It's not even all that great an idea - if you really want to punish him you should force him to go thru with it and keep his stats that way until he empties his entire bonus pool

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