So been testing out Zoluren only hunting with a F2P barb and was wondering what a player's solution would be around 70ish ranks. Blood wolves out the west gate pretty much cap in the low 70's and have difficulties defending against one bear at melee let alone all the others that wander in. Snowbeasts likewise have the same issue.

The new hunting at Sunfall doesn't teach nearly as high as reported on e-pedia. The buccas are pretty accurate but the vipers teach much lower.

Other places I've looked were one wolves near Leth but they cap around the same level as blood wolves so that's out. Lower tier fire sprites weren't teaching well I think plus that area seems impossible to hunt in anyway. Was there for about three mins and got knocked into a recovery room or something. The other fire sprite area was almost doable but 3.0 fire shards from the maidens do about 5-7% vitality per shard and they launch two of them each time.

So I guess unless I'm missing some other place actual hunting in Zoluren hits a wall after blood wolves for F2P players without a babysitter or they're taught all the way until they can handle silver bears or snowbeasts.

Maybe try grave worms (can't remember how their skill range turned out) but bone wolves probably won't do the trick. That's a rough range for hunting in Zoluren. If you could use magic you could pick up lay ward or e shield to protect against fire shard but there's not much in the way of hunting options.

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Give rock trolls in Kaerna a try. 70s is perfect for them.

If these other suggestions are still not quite right I would suggest snowbeasts, way down there before you reach the Gondola. Thankfully it's still technically Zoluren, and you don't need a passport to get there.

As per Elanthipedia: https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Snowbeast:

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3.1
Cleric. 20 in stats. Centering, minor physical protection, and major physical protection up. Forged chain
Could handle 3 with 73 in parry/evasion/shield/armor/defending. 4th would lead to injuries stacking up.
Can handle 4 with 80 in parry/shield/evasion/armor/defending. With a few hits here and there. Training very well
Weapons are teaching well in the 70s. Debilitation teaching ok in the 90s. TM teaching ok in the 90s
Can skin, but not arrange with 65 skinning 100%.
WM, 27 Agi, 22 Ref:
Weapons soft cap @ 100-110 (secondary). TM/Debilitation soft cap at 100 (primary). Defenses still teaching reasonably well @ 100+.

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Given your data, it does sound like one more creature spanning the 70-90 range in Zoluren would be useful.

Nikpack

In the original post, he stated that snowbeasts are too hard. I'm having the exact same difficulty. Probably will try snowbeasts and just duck out every ten minutes to heal up. Not ideal, we could definitely use something for that gap in Zoluren.

<<In the original post, he stated that snowbeasts are too hard.

oh good point, l2r Nick

Nikpack

I just tested bone wolves south of leth. I had no problem locking at 62.

>I'm having a hard time understanding which part of 70+ is hard to understand at this point.

I'm having a hard time understanding why people don't just go here at this point....

https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Bestiary_level_list

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Tried bobcats, but they don't move my lowest defense (69 ranks) and my weapon at 72 doesn't move past dabbling. Definitely easier than blood wolves.

There's really nothing on that list that hasn't already been exhausted and already discussed in the previous posts. So the PAFO part has been done. Just reporting the results at that skill level as it pertains to only hunting in Zoluren for the F2P.

>>Here's a crazy idea. Why don't you try it rather than getting mad at people trying to help you.

Well to be fair, listing something that soft caps at 70 because it still teaches you at 62 when he said his skills are in the 70s isn't really technically helping.

> Well to be fair, listing something that soft caps at 70 because it still teaches you at 62 when he said his skills are in the 70s isn't really technically helping.

It's listed as soft-capping, but I'm not sure if that's accurate. It's a two minute trip to leth to try it out. That's less time than has been spent complaining about people's suggestions on the forum. Either way, he's saying that he can't learn. It seems that he can. It's not optimal, but he can.

>>Teveshszat: Someday I'm hoping the GMs can just tell us what the weapon caps for each critter are (by having the right tools to give that information, if the higher ups clear any NDA matters, etc).

Same. I'm even willing to do the grunt work of putting the information on the wiki.

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>>This exactly. Is there a reason blood wolves don't teach as long in Crossing? It's oddly punitive.

They are two different skill tiers. Crossing wolves teach from around 60-70 and the Theren wolves teach from 70-85. It's nothing punitive, they just aren't carbon copies of each other.

>>Incidentally, I can't move any defenses or offenses above dabbling at 72 ranks. At 71 it took a very long time, and at 72 the only time they go higher is when a bear comes in (and they're still too hard to fight). Tried snowbeasts again, got thrashed again.

Have you tried immature firecats? I remember the OP saying they had trouble with sprite/maiden fire shards, but I never had any problem on multiple noobs I took through there.

The fire sprites in Sicle Grove are too easy, perhaps the same difficulty level as the blood wolves, because my skills 72+ never move upward from "dabbling".

The fire sprites that live with young firecats could potentially work, but the young firecats are too plentiful and too hard.

The fire maidens are awful. Like... wow. Just... wow. Maybe if I weren't playing a low circle barbarian, instead had someone with barriers, especially elemental barriers. Because this every half a minute from several maidens:

A fire maiden gestures at you.
The fire maiden winks and points at you.
Several shards of elemental flame fly at you!

The fire shard glances off your shield.
Your nose is singed a bit by the fire shard.
The fire shard glances off your shield.
Your nose is singed a bit by the fire shard.

...yeah, that's about 10% vit. Over. And over. And over. And I didn't stay long enough to truly test, but shield (71 ranks) didn't move past dabbling in the time it took me to get to 65% health.

Ain't ideal.

Also, fyi:
>Fire Maidens and Cats. Use a shield only, get the ranks you need for snowbeast and move on.
You can be stanced evasion/parry now, and if a ranged attack comes your way, parry stance points convert to shield. I was in stance parry there, and clearly I tried to block the shards. They just come too fast, any single one that gets through is too painful, and of course they get two shards each time.

I've never heard it's not a 1:1 conversion. There's not much documentation I can find on elanthipedia, but from the combat 3.1 page:

"If parry cannot be applied to an attack, then all stance points in parry will automatically be switched to shield for that attack. Any excess points past 100 shield will be allocated to evasion. This will counteract ranged attacks when training parry, for example. The reverse should also occur against attacks that can be parried but not blocked."

It says "all"--the only caveat is it can't go past 100 shield, of course. Did that change? Is it written up in more detail somewhere?

I went back to fire maidens again anyway to test, and being in shield stance doesn't improve my odds of not getting blasted. I tracked my hits/misses with one maiden for some time and they were the same (14 in shield, 14 in parry). I've tried a few different armor getups now, too, even down to borrowing some 2k+ armor pieces. Sadly, that's not the answer either.

>I've never heard it's not a 1:1 conversion.

Third item:http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Combat%20-%20Weapons%20and%20Armor/General%20Discussions/view/4838

Thanks. Maybe that should be on the stance page on Elanthipedia. It's kind of important. And I don't know how I can spend so much time reading the forums and miss stuff like this... all this time I've assumed it was 1:1 based on the release notes for 3.1.

>Rock trolls south of Shard

Think they only want Zoluren critters since can't go to other provinces without paying.

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