A few questions for all you 2HE users out there:

1.) Is it really a viable weapon? I assume so, especially with the arm shields out now.

2.)Are there any special skills/stats to focus on? Parry and evasion; reflex, agi, str? Which should take presidence, especially in terms of starting from circle 0? For a human?

2.) What is a good progression in terms of 2HE weapons, starting at 0 ranks up until expert ranks, etc? Money is of course a factor as are your stats, obviously. Example:
a.)"I would get x weapon when A stat and B stat were at _", or
b.)"Use X weapon when your effective strength is _, and then switch to Y weapon when you get your effective str up to _", or
c.)"By circle you should have enough money to buy a forged with X, Y and Z appraisals", etc.

Thank you!


PS: BTW, funny how that katana with the cambrinth was tuned to Lunar. Moonies ARE the best! (This has nothing to do with anything said above)

> I see dead people...<

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1.) Is it really a viable weapon?

Yes. It does have the pesky lack of ranged defense and the effectiveness in multi situations has been argued a lot, but unarguably viable.

2.)Are there any special skills/stats to focus on? Parry and evasion; reflex, agi, str? Which should take presidence, especially in terms of starting from circle 0? For a human?

No more or less than any other weapon. Parry for weapon defense, evasion for OF decrease. Reflex for defensive skill, strength/agility for weapon RT and power/accuracy (respectively). For a new person, regardless of race, I think the biggest issue for heavy weapons like this is weapon RT, so look into whatever the cheapest way to reduce that is. Also, keep an eye to stamina if you get tired out too much.

3.) What is a good progression in terms of 2HE weapons, starting at 0 ranks up until expert ranks, etc? Money is of course a factor as are your stats, obviously.

Roundtime rules all, so the best weapon to get early on is the ivory-hilted claymore from Therenborough. As soon as financially possible, go to light forged and work up from there with whatever strikes your fancy.

Arcelebor

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"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

So, I figure in another month or two of playing my 2HE is gonna overtake my ME so I might as well make it my primary. Because of that, I'm wondering if I should invest in a better weapon. Right now I'm using a 36 stone bastie, with 38 Strength & 32 Agility. I'm guessing I'm getting min RT. Is there a "true" 2he I could move to and still get a low RT with my str & agi? The bastie doesn't seem to hit as hard as I'd like for a 2HE. Any advice appreciated.

Lukrani

Thanks for the recomendation Rayje. At 36 stones you get a Bone-crushing slice claymore with dismal balance or a fair balanced Two-handedsword with severe slice. HIGH severe slice. Either are good choices. My favorite 2he is the greatsword, but that is a 60 stone minimum weight. I love ambushing from pole! No hiding problems then.


Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss

www.play.net/dr/info/guilds/barb.asp

and I quote:
Weapon Forging
Anyone can forge a crude weapon, but only barbarians can produce legendary quality weapons sought after by all.

Magdar makes the best 2he so no reason to look for them, just ask.




Vibrato

My favorite 2he is the greatsword, but that is a 60 stone minimum weight. I love ambushing from pole! No hiding problems then.

Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss <--

Learn something new every day. I never knew that greatswords could hit from polearm as well. I use a flamberge and part of the reason was the length of weapon because it did allow for this tactic. I assumed greatswords were a foot or so shorter and never tried to wield one in combat, now I feel rather silly. lol.

Hell the first alteration I got at the First Fest was to have my weapon harness made into a flamberge harness, same thing Rhys did at the same fest. :::chuckle::: Ah well I'll still stick to my flamberge, I'm fond of the weapon always have been. More so after seeing a few in museums in Germany. Damn weapon was as tall as me and I'm 6'2" with near a three foot crosspiece damn impressive looking blade.

Jim

>>I never knew that greatswords could hit from polearm as well.

Most can. All forged ones and any storebought that are 100+ stones hit from pole. You will, however, see some 60 stone merchant/festie/etc. ones like the one sold in the barbarian store that only hit at melee and have the same stats as Crossing two-handed swords.

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Auroch clamps his fist around your forearm and hauls you over for a merciless Barbarian greeting. Stifling a grimace, you wonder if you'll ever wield a weapon again.

I have a War mage with 36 str 36 agility with min swing on a claymore. It's awsome


Strangeguard Prayermaster

You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.

<< Am I nuts to even think of a Greatsword?

Absolutely not. A weapon that's more effective in combat will never be as much fun to you as the weapon that makes you go "heck yeah" inside every time you wield it.

Arcelebor

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"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

>>Yup. Just remember, there are folks over in TF who never, ever use a single forged blade ... for 100+ circles. Just not worth it.
>>-SAKHARA

No offense to you, but I get annoyed whenever I see this. I'm sure it's true, but you also have to factor in that they can spend enormous amounts of time doing what we would consider underhunting because they can script through the boring parts. It really isn't the same thing.

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Caraamon Majerye,
Gor'Tog Barbarian Extrordi...Well somewhat average
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html

>but I get annoyed whenever I see this.

Why? If you want to do it, go over there and learn how. It doesn't really have all that much to do with underhunting, it has to do with the fact they don't push the systems and actually hunt at level. Fancy that.

DR combat wasn't designed for everyone having minimum round times and minimum weight weapons. (not to mention capped armor) They help tremendously when overhunting, but other than one time when I got my pallie a bit too far behind with his weapons from his armor and all the round times changed, he's never had to have forged weapons.

>doing what we would consider underhunting because they can script through the boring parts.

No, we consider it underhunting because we're constantly pushing the limits of our characters because we are hunting over where we would be by the game engine design. Some of what's amazing about DR and keeps it sane is that it is possible to continually advance without the 'uber sword o' doom'. I have yet to see any game that keeps to this standard and I think its downright wonderful.

I don't want to have to have a ton of real life cash to buy plats to be able to buy weapons I need to circle. I don't want to have to spend months in sandies to be able to buy the armor to survive hatchlings. And yeah, I have one character with thousands of plats worth of specialized equipment. It helps him, yes, but he could have managed with nothing more than store bought armor/shield, too, just slower and I would have had to put more thought into the progression of his training.

I recently circled and was very excited to move my strength enough to drop my RT with my weapons... at least with my bastard sword, 28 stone.

My strength is up to 24 but it didn't drop... did the numbers change?


Ningen banji saiou ga uma

Strength 24, Agility 21.

I'm also a S'Kra Mur

Ningen banji saiou ga uma

>>What's the suitedness/balance?

No idea, I'll try to get it appraised, thanks!


Ningen banji saiou ga uma

What it is telling you is that you should be able to decrease the roundtime on that particular weapon to the 3/4 by increasing your strength by 2 points or agility by 2. Being a Mur, it is telling that the cheapest route is through strength (which would cost 123 TDPs).

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Fuquois

I'm so tired of this... I raised my agility 2 more points once I leveled, and none of my round times have changed...

whatev to damn weapons!


Ningen banji saiou ga uma

>I'm so tired of this... I raised my agility 2 more points once I leveled, and none of my round times have changed...

Ninratm, the problem is that entered the weapon values into the calculator backwards, you entered it as reasonably suited and fairly balanced, which throws off the numbers.

Also the calculator doesn't take into account that weapon appraisal values are a range, you can compare two reasonably balanced weapons and see that one is 'somewhat more' or even 'more' balanced than the other, if one of them is higher in the reasonably range than the other. I'm guessing just uses the middle number in the range, this can throw off the number too.

In this case though, I can guarantee that you will have a RT drop on a 28 stone bastard sword if you raise agility one more point, so that you have 24 strength and 24 agility.

Dragoonseal

24/24 Str/Agil is where I got my 3/4 drop with my 28 stone broadsword.


Player of Gilart
Despite your best efforts, skinning the gargoyle just isn't going to happen this time. Maybe helping little old Halfling widows across a busy Crossing street is more your line of work?

>What would be the best parrying, normal metal, forged 2HE ?

More weapon balance means it parries better, so the best would be a 28 stone bastard sword ground all the way for balance.

It would be reasonably balanced in both HE and 2HE modes, but on the 2HE side it would be just an inch under well balanced.

Dragoonseal

>Could a saber not be forged with better balance? I find it hard to believe the bastard sword can have both the versatility and the everything-else-better as well.

A sabre can be made with better balance, they can reach well balanced. They also have much better puncture and minimum roundtimes, and can be as light as 17 stones. Different weapons, different strengths.

Compared to other weapon types in the same classes, bastard swords mostly only excel at their balance and suited totals (with decent slice). If you're willing to give up a little bit of balance, other forged 2HE can have quite superior damage stats. Other forged HE don't hold up as well, the HE side of bastard swords is pretty solid, but they have their strengths as well, from lower weights to greater damage at the expensive of balance.

Dragoonseal