Re: I like my spellbook 01/12/2004 01:08 PM CST
Cause is an Alter Spellbook..


Say mister beefy. Say it, say it!
First you get the Money
second comes the Power
Third you get the Woman
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Bugged spellbook? 01/20/2004 11:53 PM CST
I just reactivated my account after over a year to find that I can't study my spellbook anymore. As far as I can remember, I was able to turn through the pages and study them before I left, but that was when spellbooks were new. Now all I get when I try to study it is "You take on a studious look", and I can't read it either. I got it as a gift, and it was very expensive, so I would like to know if anyone has any advice or suggestions. I've already assisted and bugged it, but there wasn't any way to help the situation. Thanks in advance to any helpful replies.
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Re: Bugged spellbook? 01/21/2004 12:48 AM CST
I would suggest posting the information of what exactly you are typing that isn't working out, so that maybe a GM can read it.

Also, you should really give the character's name, so that if a GM were to figure out what was wrong, or wanted to look you up in game to try something, they could do that.

Regards,
player of Syrath





Kinsmen, Steel, Stone.
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Re: Bugged spellbook? 01/21/2004 11:58 PM CST
>Now all I get when I try to study it is "You take on a studious look", and I can't read it either.

Very odd.

Just in case...OPEN spellbook, TURN spellbook TO <chapter #>, TURN spellbook TO <page #>, STUDY spellbook.

Also, what's the description of your spellbook?

-Chris




You wave your blue wand at Droughtman.
The wand flashes brightly and shoots a bolt directly at Droughtman, causing him to immediately freeze in his tracks.
Kilan has just frozen Droughtman!
Roundtime: 1 seconds.
You cackle!
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My spellbook Case has a BUG in it - and its hungry! 01/25/2004 09:07 AM CST
My spellbook case eats magical devices. I kid you not.

I thought I'd lost my mind (what, again?) when I couldnt find two golden sunfish erythrite pendants which I KNEW had been in there last time I'd seen them, and a really unusual bone amulet I'd been given, which had some necromantic magic in it, that I was keeping to experiment with once that magic sphere was live.
Now, the thing is, neither of these different items are actually coded to fit into any of the case compartments... so I um <cough>... had my shadowy sister 'sneak' them into the case for me, assuming that once they were in there, they'd be safe and sound as long as I didnt take them out again.... well, talk about 'assumption being the mother of all #@$*%ups'.
Once I'd checked and rechecked every possible place I could have stashed the items, I finally decided that I KNEW they'd been in my case, and now they werent, simple as that. So we tested it some, and sure enough... anything that is slipped into the case via a certain stealthy ability of the Guild who shall remain nameless, is DEVOURED by the case in the time it takes to turn the compartments one full rotation, back to the compartment it was open at when the item landed in there.
This is a direct cut and paste of me testing it just tonight, nothing edited.

>turn case
You shift the partitions in your spellbook case, closing the compartment that holds a spellbook and opening the one for wands, rods and rattles.
>l in my case
There is nothing in there.
>tap my case
You tap a silver-inlaid willow spellbook case that you are wearing.
>
Strange. Your spellbook case just got a little heavier.
>l in my case
In the spellbook case you see a Guildleader Edytha card.
>turn case
You shift the partitions in your spellbook case, closing the compartment that holds wands, rods and rattles and opening the one for runestones.
>turn case
>
You shift the partitions in your spellbook case, closing the compartment that holds runestones and opening the one for scrolls and parchments.
>turn case
You shift the partitions in your spellbook case, closing the compartment that holds scrolls and opening the one for miscellaneous components.
>turn case
You shift the partitions in your spellbook case, closing the compartment that holds miscellaneous spell components and opening the one for a spellbook.
>turn case
You shift the partitions in your spellbook case, closing the compartment that holds a spellbook and opening the one for wands, rods and rattles.
>l in my case
There is nothing in there.
>tap my case
You tap a silver-inlaid willow spellbook case that you are wearing.
>get card in my case
I could not find what you were referring to.

So, I realise that I could be in for a smack around the ears for using that ability to get the stupid things in there, but... well, I figured they really did belong in there, and I'd just help them a little... they were both magical devices after all. (Obviously the collectors card in above example isnt, but that was only for the purpose of recreating the situation)

I even tried putting the spellbook case in my vault, to see if the missing things showed up as being still inside the case but somehow inaccessible, in the vault book. But even thats a bit weird, it doesnt show anything as being in the case... which is good for storing it, but probably not intended?

Can somebody (Talian? Pretty please?)please help me find my missing items? I dont even care about the voodoo-necro-nasty amulet, but both the erythrite pendants were unused, 15 full uses still in each! <wail>

Thanks (hopefully) in advance,

~Kalewen.
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Re: My spellbook Case has a BUG in it - and its hungry! 01/25/2004 11:28 AM CST
Talian, thank you so much.
That was the fastest response ever, and it was great to have my lost items found.
A good lesson was learnt too, I wont be trying that trick again!

~Kalewen.
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Bug with spellbooks 08/04/2004 09:48 PM CDT
It's not possible to erase in the writing pads anymore that we bought with the spellbooks.

Any change someone can look at this?

Thanks.
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Well since spellbooks are getting looked at.... 08/16/2004 07:59 PM CDT
Spellbooks give the impression of being a mage's own personal spellbook, however they list all the spells possible for the 'guild' that the spellbook was for.

I'd find it a lot more satisfying if the spellbook only had the spells that the owner knew.

'Slimy Yet Satisfying' - Miko Mido

Supreme Bunny Overlord Zairius
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Re: Well since spellbooks are getting looked at.... 08/17/2004 03:45 PM CDT
That's why you can make notes at the bottom of the page. I think it's nice to have all the spells listed - so you can become familiar with a spell by studying up on it in your book before you choose to learn it. Just put a little note once you've learned it and voila! Skip the other pages if that's what you prefer.

~Chris, player of Field Medic Nimmi

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. - Unknown
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Re: Well since spellbooks are getting looked at.... 08/17/2004 09:08 PM CDT
Or type "spell" IG and it'll list what spells you know. The spellbooks are mostly RP and learning scholarship. Fewer spells in the book to study less learning.


Xavain
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Scuffed spellbook 02/03/2005 07:08 AM CST
Hey everyone. I have a quick question. I have one of the spellbooks with scuffed in the look and I was wondering how rare are those? I saw someone selling a scuffed one recently and they said that the scuffed books are extremely rare and that there is only 2 in existence,is this true? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Scuffed spellbook 02/03/2005 07:15 AM CST
who was that quote from again? barnum and bailey? something about a sucker being born every moment...?

scuffed means it was damaged when they had it out in the rain, etc without invoking a protective crystal.

---
A scavenger troll arrives, scouring the area.

The scavenger troll exclaims, "I dinks I like da' Moongate!"

The scavenger troll bends over and picks up the Moongate. After appraising it, the troll places the Moongate in its frayed knapsack
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Re: Scuffed spellbook 02/03/2005 07:17 AM CST
<<who was that quote from again? barnum and bailey? something about a sucker being born every moment...?

Just remember, most people don't sell things to you because they want to do you a favor.

Trebber
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Re: Scuffed spellbook 02/03/2005 11:20 AM CST
You misread my post.I didnt say I was buying it cause scuffed means its worth more.I was curious if it was cause someone is selling a scuffed spellbook on drsales claiming there are only 2 like it and that its worth alot of plat and that a gm said it was special.I got my spellbook cheap cause it was scuffed cause as was pointed out it means it got damaged.I was just curious since I was told by someone awhile back scuffed means cause of rain damage etc and I was surprised someone selling it on the groups said it was special. I wouldnt be stupid enough to buy something that is so called vauled high for that unless I had it checked out.
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Re: Scuffed spellbook 02/05/2005 07:18 AM CST
I hope whoever is selling that spellbook knows that scamming is consent...
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spellbook 08/26/2005 02:08 PM CDT
I have a spellbook from the last time the merchant was here. Now besides opening it and reading, what verbs are there to go along with the spellbook. Also I take it out and read it every once in awhile, but i don't see a change in the scholarship. I think it still is suppost to work it right?


Quartermaster Garlceth
of the Zoluren Navy


* Pirates??.... What Pirates?
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Re: spellbook 08/26/2005 02:26 PM CDT
>>I have a spellbook from the last time the merchant was here. Now besides opening it and reading, what verbs are there to go along with the spellbook. Also I take it out and read it every once in awhile, but i don't see a change in the scholarship. I think it still is suppost to work it right?

Verbs while book is open: http://vortressa.mermaiden.net/spellbook_opened.shtml
Verbs while book is closed: http://vortressa.mermaiden.net/spellbook_closed.shtml
Note that these pages date back to around when the spellbooks were first released, so they may not include every verb, nor is there any guarantee that all verbs listed still work exactly the same way. And be careful, you can damage your spellbook...

Spellbooks, as long as they are custom spellbooks, still teach Scholarship, but you need to study the various spells rather than read the spells to learn Scholarship.

~Kyn (Kynevon)

Info Page http://kynevon.info
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So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/06/2005 11:18 AM CDT
I hope I don't have to empty out the bank account.


-Nosaj
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Re: So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/06/2005 11:57 AM CDT
The base price is a little over 31 plat dokaros. If you want extras for the spell book, they come with a price. Then there's the case, which you need to buy and those vary in price. I got a pretty basic spellbook and case and ran me about 45 plat.


Player of Salvalis Nyrobi
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Re: So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/06/2005 12:14 PM CDT
Thank you!!! Finally got an empath spellbook, Woot!


Moving stealthily, you manage to grab an origami-paper envelope right from underneath a sales clerk's very nose.

~Purehand
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Re: So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/06/2005 01:27 PM CDT
>>The base price is a little over 31 plat dokaros. If you want extras for the spell book, they come with a price. Then there's the case, which you need to buy and those vary in price. I got a pretty basic spellbook and case and ran me about 45 plat.

If you just want a spellbook and case as cheap as possible, for the next time it comes back, the small cases in the first room run for under 3 plat each, IIRC; and you can choose some customizations that actually lower the cost of the customized book from the base price.

And it looks like the spellbook information, as far as it goes, on Vortressa's site (from the original appearance of the merchant) is still fairly accurate.

http://vortressa.mermaiden.net/

~Kyn (Kynevon)

Info Page http://kynevon.info
Mac OS X FE http://tinyurl.com/9xjyj
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Re: So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/07/2005 05:53 AM CDT
So, the Fest closed yesterday. Does that mean the spellbook merchant is gone too? I was hoping to get one, but couldn't make it in yesterday to go get one.

_______
Llyldoryn
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Re: So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/07/2005 07:44 AM CDT
<<So, the Fest closed yesterday. Does that mean the spellbook merchant is gone too? I was hoping to get one, but couldn't make it in yesterday to go get one.>>

yes. in the main topic talk to simu it was talked about. even though the powers that be are hiding all posts critizing the short duration of the merchant.


le sigh...

the rest of my family have them, in fact, i wasn't intending on purchasing until i saw on the boards that the bards finally had an option to get one tailor-made for them - which they had been lacking for a very long time -- so i really wanted to get one for her. but alas. i borrowed 200 plat kronar from schvartz, and by the time i had it exchanged and ran down to shard from theren with my bard basgonif, the tome - entrance to the merchant - was closed.


disappointing doesn't even begin to describe it.






"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
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Re: So how much are these spellbooks selling for? 09/07/2005 12:35 PM CDT
<<disappointing doesn't even begin to describe it.>>

You're telling me. Who'd have thought that spending a holiday weekend in the hospital would only have been made worse to find out I missed the spellbook merchant in my one pasttime that keeps me sane.

~Chris
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another character and my spellbook 09/07/2005 05:51 PM CDT
was wondering if anyone knows...if I gave my spellbook to another character of mine would he still be able to use all funtions of the book? like the beads, verbs, taking on and off the socket? also, I dont know alot about the crystals for the sockets...if they aren't used at all by the original character would the second character be able to use(invoke) them, take them in and out of the socket and any other things they do?
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Re: another character and my spellbook 09/07/2005 06:43 PM CDT
He can use the book, but cannot put any items on or take them off, even if they had not been previously applied. Not sure about the crystals though.
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Re: another character and my spellbook 09/07/2005 06:49 PM CDT
He might be able to invoke the hafaltu crystal, but he would definitely set off any other crystal installed. And that would hurt.

Anything like a bloodlock would not be usable by the non-bonded character, BTW.

If the spellbook were non-bloodlocked, the non-owner would be able to use some of the stuff, not sure how much, but the studying aspect would be available.

~Kyn (Kynevon)

Info Page http://kynevon.info
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Re: another character and my spellbook 09/07/2005 08:38 PM CDT
>Anything like a bloodlock would not be usable by the non-bonded character, BTW.<

To clarify, putting a bloodlock on the spellbook? No the non-bonded character wouldn't be able to. Using the key to unlock and then open the bloodlock, yes the non-bonded character can do this. Make sure to remove any offensive crystals from the socket though, accidentally killed my wife when i let her take my spellbook case to study the book while i was away for the day.


Xavain
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Center my spellbook 09/09/2005 02:23 PM CDT
Here's one for you. Going through the list of spellbook verbs I came across CENTER and tried it...

>center my spellbook
You come across a section in your spellbook which describes a centering technique used for maximizing one's concentration while working a spell. You decide to try it. Closing your eyes, you inhale slowly and attempt to feel the mana flowing through and around your body, as if you were the heart of the world and all the mana within it flowed outward from your center. It doesn't feel like the spellbook said it should, though. You probably need more practice.
Roundtime: 10 seconds

Is anyone able to do this?
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/09/2005 02:33 PM CDT
Worked for me.

No idea what it is.




So I asked this God a question
and by way of firm reply,
He said: "I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays".
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/09/2005 09:18 PM CDT
It works, but you have to have your spellbook in your hands and open.

Same message for me:

center my spellbook
You come across a section in your spellbook which describes a centering technique used for maximizing one's concentration while working a spell. You decide to try it. Closing your eyes, you inhale slowly and attempt to feel the mana flowing through and around your body, as if you were the heart of the world and all the mana within it flowed outward from your center. It doesn't feel like the spellbook said it should, though. You probably need more practice.



Same message while I was holding my spellbook and tried to center while preparing a spell (ES 5).

Primary Magic:184 74%ponderingHarness Ability:192 06%muddled
Power Perceive:199 46%thoughtfulMagical Devices:151 09%bewildering
Targeted Magic:101 15%clear


~Kyn (Kynevon)

Info Page http://kynevon.info
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/09/2005 09:22 PM CDT
Someone with near 300s in magic tried it, failed.




So I asked this God a question
and by way of firm reply,
He said: "I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays".
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 03:36 AM CDT
> Someone with near 300s in magic tried it, failed.

Yea, my magics are right around 300 and I failed. Syler, you said you succeeded, what are your magics at? I'm also wondering if concentration and stats come into play.
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 03:49 AM CDT
I got the same messaging with PM and Harn in the 500s, PP and MD in the 400s, targetted in the 200s.


~Tykyra~
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 03:58 AM CDT
It didn't work for me.

Allarsk
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 06:28 AM CDT
Maybe we could get Cloudcrest or someone similar to try it


Strangeguard Prayermaster

You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 07:26 AM CDT
almost 300 in PM and harness, 200 MD, 34 disc, 34 wis, 32 int. 66th circle. centered on my empath spellbook and got the same message as above, tried centering on my Moon Mage Spellbook (both bought by same character empath spellbook first time merchant was out, MM spellbook at the liberation fest) and was not able to center on it.

>open case
You open a sturdy iron-studded black leather spellbook case.
>get spellbook
You get a blood red velvet-bound spellbook from inside your spellbook case.
>open spell
You open a blood red velvet-bound spellbook.
>turn spell to chapt 1
You turn the pale ivory vellum pages to the chapter entitled "Healing" in your velvet-bound spellbook.
>turn spell to page 3
You turn through the pale ivory vellum pages of your velvet-bound spellbook, stopping when you find the page with notes detailing the "External Scar Healing" spell.
>center spell
You come across a section in your spellbook which describes a centering technique used for maximizing one's concentration while working a spell. You decide to try it. Closing your eyes, you inhale slowly and attempt to feel the mana flowing through and around your body, as if you were the heart of the world and all the mana within it flowed outward from your center. It doesn't feel like the spellbook said it should, though. You probably need more practice.
Roundtime: 10 seconds
>close spell
You close your velvet-bound spellbook.
>put spell in case
You tuck a blood red velvet-bound spellbook into the spellbook compartment of your spellbook case.
>close case
You close a sturdy iron-studded black leather spellbook case.
>open second case
You open a small silver-bound spellbook case engraved with the Moon Mage Guild.
>get spell from second case
You get a blood-stained brown leather spellbook from inside your spellbook case.
>open spell
You open a blood-stained brown leather spellbook.
>turn spell to chapt 1
You turn the blood-stained vellum pages to the chapter entitled "Perception" in your brown leather spellbook.
>turn spell to page 3
You turn through the blood-stained vellum pages of your brown leather spellbook, stopping when you find the page with notes detailing the "Locate" spell.
>center spell
You won't have much luck centering that.


Got Body Parts?
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 11:23 AM CDT
What exactly is this supposed to do?




Orpheus: "You've been powering this machine with a forsaken child?"
Venture: "What? It's not like I used the whole thing."
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 11:43 AM CDT
No, I failed.

And someone with quadruple digit magics tried it, as well. He also failed. I was just saying I got the same messaging.

It might be something set for anew system that was never implemented... I'm not sure. It looks like something we're supposed to ask guild leaders about. Or someone who knows what they're talking about.

One person suggested it increased mana perception briefly, but no. It didn't seem to.

Other possibilities are increasing mana regen, increasing your personal prep cap... I'm not sure. Other thoughts, other things people want to test?



So I asked this God a question
and by way of firm reply,
He said: "I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays".
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Re: Center my spellbook 09/10/2005 12:12 PM CDT
The way it talks about all the mana in the world flowing out from you, it sounds like something that would reduce your attunement loss when casting at the cost of concentration. Atleast, that's what I'd like to see.

And given that the person with quadruple magics failed, I'm gonna out on a limb at assume they have fairly decent mentals and concentration, so it must be something that's not implemented yet. A shame too, I was hoping my spellbook would actually have a use for moonies.
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