Really well done. Thanks Xorus.

If I find errata should I post here, or send a PM? :)

Example: Charl's shrine was originally built as Shaal's shrine during the I.C.E. age and converted during the de-icing. You have it built during the intermediate period.

SPOILER ALERT::> Luxie prays, naming Reann in her heart. A girl can only RETCON so much, people! So Reann is the special, sacred name, which is never to be uttered aloud, just as her father and mother taught her.

However, she is pretty sure she is not the only Ronanite who knows his sacred name.

Lots of love for Xorus for this. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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Thanks, guys. It is a pretty massive undertaking and I have barely dented it. I do not have a lot of trust in the "intermediate" gods descriptions, in the sense I cannot be sure no tampering was done to the formatting by a player. One of the two documents I have looks like it might have stuff from two different time points mixed together. I want to disentangle when things changed, sometimes even subtle differences. The I.C.E. versions of the gods has also been changing and a lot of details are really dispersed.

<<Example: Charl's shrine was originally built as Shaal's shrine during the I.C.E. age and converted during the de-icing. You have it built during the intermediate period.>> - EREK

Oops. I actually caught that mistake and keep forgetting to fix it, I have a saved post somewhere where you mentioned building it as a Shaal shrine.

I guess here works for errata. The Shadow World end of it is easy, but I get shaky on some of the in-game stuff. Especially in the mid-90s.


<<P.S. Professor Xorus, The Shrine of Dreams is DEFFO from the Ice Age. I want to say it was one of the first. I don't think they changed much about it at all. Many of the visions I recognized. The rest were probably there and I forgot them...>> - Luxelle

I had not checked the saved maps I have yet, but I figured it was, I tacitly assume the places used in the Voln steps for the Landing were made before the De-ICE since Order of Vult was (seemingly) late 1994. (And the story that monk tells of their founding is absurd in that context. No idea what the intent was with it.)

- Xorus' player

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Wehnimer's Landing Town Halls, Now With Authentic Frontier Gibberish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U

I do not suppose anyone has a nifty trick for getting at this documentation on the GemStone III website through the Wayback Machine?

It seems that the gods file (that is, in the 1990s) was one of the things hidden behind the members login screen.

- Xorus' player

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Wehnimer's Landing Town Halls, Now With Authentic Frontier Gibberish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U

I was able to find the original history document from before the creation myth and the Meachresim Illistim bit was added to it.

I was hoping the gods descriptions would also have been in the public area but no such luck it seems.

- Xorus' player

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Wehnimer's Landing Town Halls, Now With Authentic Frontier Gibberish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U

This is neat, thanks for posting that! As a quick reference, was there a maximum level in that system? I note that most have their avatars' levels listed, so I was curious how that compares to what an adventurer can theoretically achieve.

_ _ _
Myasara says, "Raining rocks down on my city was not the best course of action."
- - -
Nishima put a group of five partially frozen corpses in the Nishima disk.
Several frozen limbs peek out of the disk in a macabre fashion.

For values of "as long" equal to about level 300.
The reason they pushed the conversion when they did was that there was a "divide by 0" error coming up on the horizon soon.
I know that least one of the Healers was up around 286th level when we switched.

No, it was either Angellisa or Jadall. Here's the latest FAME snippet I can find with both of them listed, which is dated Jan 2, 2000. Sorry for the horrible formatting...


fame empath 1
THE EMPATH FAME LIST, PAGE 1:

_______________________________________________________________
F-fame | First Name | Last Name | P-fame |Lvl| Race

200097872 Snowie Krystals 200097872 111 Sylvankind
156194867 Mendi Restoration 156194867 105 Human
151144755 Savannaah LeLovly 151144755 108 Dwarf
122295051 Bronnwyn MacAaronn 122295051 135 Sylvankind
108527148 Zexa Jubra 108212497 80 Sylvankind
88051082 Chandani Divali 88051082 74 Human
72568410 Taimie PhantomRider 72566886 78 Giant
69422506 Acidomi Blackblaedde 46630632 57 Giant
69103348 Featherhair WindingSoul 69084991 86 Elf
68706424 Clearina Angelixa 68706424 86 Giant
68672403 Jadall Junfire 68672245 216 Half Elf
68362267 Olsa VeRille 68015130 62 Sylvankind
67650520 Sistermarie RalphBraun 67650520 72 Sylvankind
67614558 Corallus Endurous 67364132 35 Giant
67046195 Sune Firehair 67045934 74 Giant
64735507 Leianna D'ampour 64735507 77 Sylvankind
63006816 Chayero Mathena 62771138 60 Human
60032595 Abeha Strenuoso 60032595 58 Human
58397738 Tinygen Maxshrinkage 53410894 51 Halfling
58342068 Whyssper Wyynndde 58327168 120 Human



THE EMPATH FAME LIST, PAGE 2:

_______________________________________________________________
F-fame | First Name | Last Name | P-fame |Lvl| Race

57158468 Lissa Glendalough 57156786 117 Dark Elf
57016465 Empfighter Stompnheal 57016465 55 Giant
54287797 Sharanna Fernwalker 44257731 43 Giant
52953476 Angellisa Allessandro 52953476 193 Dark Elf
51264434 Guendal Winsey 51254056 89 Human
51006214 Auratwo Emblazzon 51005914 71 Human
50717225 Dabu Lucent 50713585 97 Dark Elf
48417472 Alahara Layanius 48417472 65 Dark Elf
48196166 Sabrinah Augustun 43687239 50 Giant
47703333 Eradica Khaan 47318897 57 Dark Elf
47502291 Katrinia Veela 47501091 64 Half Elf
47321001 Lauralinn Emeraldleafe 47321001 54 Half Elf
44896579 Sanae Goldenshoe 44794177 65 Sylvankind
42900282 Sihaya Subversiveness 42878246 190 Human
42344079 Merry Featherstone 41873294 107 Sylvankind
42185435 Phillipa Berg 42184095 141 Human
41816786 Campina rosebay 41812977 49 Sylvankind
41516173 Xorion Jemsek 41472065 62 Human
41153335 Ellerick Palindrome 41108289 72 Sylvankind
41010567 Tokoz Syovarion 41010567 49 Giant

There are no further valid entries for this list on this page.

>>- Xorus' player's stuff

That's the exact sort of thing I was wondering about, thanks! Especially the aged sorcerer example gives a good idea of how that compares, though obviously there are lots of variables and it probably isn't nicely linear. I do like how the oldest source examples have such specifics, but the whole article is really nice for reference.

_ _ _
Myasara says, "Raining rocks down on my city was not the best course of action."
- - -
Nishima put a group of five partially frozen corpses in the Nishima disk.
Several frozen limbs peek out of the disk in a macabre fashion.

>It seems that the gods file (that is, in the 1990s) was one of the things hidden behind the members login screen.

I'm not sure how long it took for an official file to appear after the move to the web, but the documentation before that appeared to be a player-driven project that happened 95-96. I'm not sure how much material was pulled in-game vs. from a sourcebook. I got several emails from Lady Laranna, who appeared to be the one compiling info from some of the other players (Thalior and Eillie, specifically, were given credit). There were one or two partial lists, followed by a "complete list" split into 2 parts that was just a couple sentences about each god. A little later, Laranna compiled it into a "thesis of the gods" which had more descriptive information.

This is the "Thesis of the Gods" which was sent out later:


**Please note that this thesis is the expanded and re-worked addition to my last text.



= Pantheon of Liabo =


- Charl -
God of the sea, father to Niima, he is sometimes called "The Destroyer" because his anger is like the worst sea storms. He doesn't care much for creatures on land, and is rarely seen in his human form - preferring to take the form of a Merman, whale or great dolphin. In human form, he's a burly man with blue-white hair and beard, pale skin and blue eyes which refelect his moody demeanor. He weilds a great trident of greenish alloy set with emerald points. His shrine is located along the Coastal Cliffs. (Shaal)

- Cholen -
God of festivals, and performing arts, "The Bard". He has a beautiful singing voice and is said to play various musical instruments. He's the opposite of his twin, Jastev, God of visual arts and magic. Cheerful and mischevious, he's called upon to bless wine and aid with recovery from hangovers. He's been known to seduce mortals, sometimes in the form of a woman just for fun. He appears in mortal form as a tall, slight young man with blue eyes and flowing dark brown hair pulled back into a ponytail. Shrine - unknown. (Keiron)

- Eonak -
Smith of the gods, husband to Imaera. While strong, he is no match for Kai. He is extremely skilled in his craft however, and has made all the weapons used by the gods of Liabo. Being a master of his work, ever intent on producing the best quality possible, this has made him somewhat of a recluse, keeping to his smithy and avoiding social settings. Appearing thirty-something, burly, with black hair and deep brown eyes, he is an imposing sight which offsets his gentle nature. Shrine - unknown. (Iorak)

- Imaera -
Gentle goddess of plants, animals and the earth. She wears robes of green and brown, and adorns her auburn hair with flowers and leaves - when she isn't in deer form. Her eyes are wide and hazel colored, framed by soft features. She is honored at harvest festivals for her bountiful contributions of our land. Her husband is Eonak the Smith. Her shrine is located on an island in Silver Lake. (Iloura)

- Jastev -
God of visual arts and magic, twin to Cholen, God of festivals and performing. He rivals Kai's good looks with his own sensual hazel eyes, dark brown hair, fair skin and lean, handsome frame. He is very serious, sometimes sullen and morbid and wears black or dark grey garments. He is said to have originated many of Elanthia's alphabets and runes. Shrine - unknown. (Jaysek)

- Jaston -
Follower of the Four winds, patron of the birds. In mortal form he dons green breeches and many colored feathered bands about his head, arms and wrists. He is lighthearted and playful, appearing about to be in his late teens. With long brown hair, hazel eyes and slendor build, Jaston is handsome in a boyish way. Shrine - unknown. (Jaynor)

- Kai -
Lord of strength and athletics, none can defeat him in unarmed combat. Considered by many to be the most handsome of the gods, he's a known seducer and has fathered many mortal children. He appears to be a lean muscular young man with azure eyes and brown curly hair. He wears only a short blue tunic off one shoulder, his favorite weapon, a spear. His shrine is found outside of Wehnimer, near the velnalins. (Cay)

- Koar -
King of the Gods, Ruler of Liabo, husband to Lumnis, Goddess of wisdom and learning. Almost never intervenes in the affairs of mortals but keeps the other gods, of Liabo at least, more or less in line. He never interferes with Lorminstra, however. He appears as a muscular man of middle years, and has a thick mane of flowing snow-white hair. His eyes are greyish, skin ruddy, and is usually seen in a flowing toga-like garment. (Kuor)

- Kuon -
Patron of herbs and flowers. He has hazel eyes, light brown hair and appears to be twenty-something, a large hulking presence - his shimmering green, amber and brown robes unable to hide his massive shoulders. Flowers grow spontaneously in his wake and go uncrushed beneath his steps. He is gentle and kind, but has a bad temper once pushed far enough. Shrine - unknown. (Quen)

- Leya -
Daughter of Kai, master of martial arts, patron of Amazons. She is a superior warrior who appears to be twenty-something with azure eyes and wavy mahogony hair. She wears a belted tunic over her slender but athletic form and laced up sandals upon her feet. She has a cool, confident demeanor and is skilled in many weapons. Shrine - uknown. (Laia)

- Lorminstra -
Goddess of Death and Rebirth, sister to Ronan, holds the crystal keys to the Gates of Oblivion. She is the one who determines whether a soul should be restored to its mortal body or dwell in the afterlife - unless the soul has been claimed by others and is out of her reach. She wears a flowing black hooded robes over a white gown and carries a staff of crystal. She's blonde, with grey-blue eyes and of slight build. Her pale skin reflect her somber, pensive demeanor. Her shrine is located in the town Temple, where one can donate gems or silver in an attempt to win her favor. (Eissa)

- Lumnis -
Goddess of learning and wisdom, patron to scholars and masters of thought, "The Wise." Tall and slender, Lumnis's ivory skin compliment her black hair. pale grey eyes, and full red lips. She is serene, scholarly, seemingly aloof in her quiet ways. She wears flowing garments of white or light grey and is the beautiful wife of Koar. Shrine - unknown. (Valris)

- Niima -
Mistress of the water, patroness of sailors, daughter of Charl. She acts as Charl's conscience and moderates his temper. She rescues shipwrecked sailors, but tends to save the young and handsome ones first. She looks somewhat spritely, with very pale skin, blue eyes, and pale blonde hair. A blue-green gown clings to her slender form though she appears to no more than a young girl. Shrine - unknown. (Neela)

- Oleani -
Goddess of love and fertility, and things feminine. Wife of Phoen, and the most beautiful of all the goddesses with violet, gold-flecked eyes and long golden blonde hair. She is very feminine and voluptious with lightly tanned skin. She wears a tunic or gown of shimmering white trimmed with gold. Sometimes her tunic is a sheer, revealing garment, showing her playful, lusty side. Often called upon to aid in wedding ceremonies, she grants small blessings of fertility and undying love upon the newly-wedded couple. Shrine - unknown. (Oriana)

- Phoen -
God of the sun and fatherhood, and things masculine. Husband of Oleani, though their marriage is a bit - looser than traditional. His eyes are a deep amber, hair flowing golden blonde. He wears only a short tunic of white cloth trimmed with gold over his tall muscular frame. Well-meaninged, Phoen tends to be often over-confident and egotistical. Representing the masculine side of fertility, he sires numberless children of Elanthia. Shrine - unknown. (Phaon)

- Ronan -
God of the night, master of dreams and visions, brother of Lorminstra, "Dream-master". He is always fighting against Lornon, especially the god Sheru, his counterpart. Though he cannot be corrupted, he is weary. He is tall and slender with fair skin, black hair, and dark, hypnotic eyes. He favors only sable-hued cloth garments often trimmed in black leathers and his symbol seems to be a white horse or unicorn. Though weary, he's alert and has a sardonic, wry sense of humor, and can sometimes be seen with Jastev. Shrine - unknown. (Reann)

- Tilamaire -
Patron of music and dance. Servant of Cholen, he frequently travels in the guise of a wandering minstrel to seek out new musical talents. Upon finding one worthy of his time, he offers to stay and tutor them, greatly increasing their skill and often bestowing magical abilities. Though he's generally light-hearted, he's a deadly foe when confronted with his enemy Ivas. (Talaraine)

- Tonis -
Messanger of the gods, he appears as a beautiful androgynous youth in his middle teens. Clad in a short diaphanous tunic and always bare-footed, Tonis is can run faster than any living creature. He carries a short staff which records the messages to be delivered and occasionally rides upon his magical shield (like a skateboard). With curly blonde hair, light brown eyes and slender build, his lightly tanned skin flushes with his childlike
hyperactivity. He's rarely been encountered by mortals. Shrine - unknown. (Teris)

- Voln -
"The Liberator", wanders Elanthia slaying undead creatures and breaking the curse that keeps them from Lorminstra. He appears about 25, has flowing sable hair striking blue eyes, and is usually found wearing black chain armor with a white surcoat.. He's handsome but unapproachable with his grim, sometimes snide demeanor. The shrine, the "Voln Monestary," is found just outside the Graveyard. (Vult)

= Pantheon of Lornon =

- Aldemur -
(Askylor)

- Amasalen -
Servant of Luukos, he oversees ritual sacrifices and craves human blood. A striking figure with his white hair, muscular frame, bronzed skin and broad, bare chest, Amasalen dresses only in white silk pants. He's arrogant and cruel, energized by frenzied religious celebrations. Although he's not related to the reptile family, his eyes have slitted pupils and his tounge is unnaturally long. Shrine - unknown. (Akalatan)

- Andelas -
Lord of Cats, brillant green eyes with slit pupils, muscular and lithe, with shoulder length black hair. His attitude can be playfull, sadistic, or simply indifferent. He greatly enjoys toying with his prey. Upon spotting a huge black panther, eight feet high at the shoulder, you will know that you have been blessed with seening Andelas in his alternate form. In human form, he's been noted as appearing about twenty five, with brilliant green slit pupiled eyes, shoulder-length, straight, black hair, and a muscular but lithe build covered by a black leather loincloth. Shrine - unknown. (Andaras)

- Arachne -
The Betrayer, about whom you should really ask Lord High Priest Bleeds. Goddess of spiders, she is an enemy of the Huntress. Shrine located at the Spider Temple. (Hrassk)

- Carelin -
(Karamon)

- Drevthrel -
(Trandel)

- Eorgina -
Goddess of darkness, grey flaming steel skin, glowing red eyes, long black silky hair, truely a visage. She seems to prefer female followers, males tend not to last very long in her service. She is unspeakably cruel and delights in the pain of others, males especially. She bides her time for the eventual campaign to rule Elanthia. Shrine - unknown. (Origiana)

- Fash'lo'nae -
He is the master of signs, glyphs, and symbols, of all knowledge arcane. The magic of words and symbols is known better by him than perhaps any other entity. Ordinarily, he'd be considered the ruler of Lornon due to is
superious powers, but he is reclusive and has no desire to dominate others. His followers are scholarly men and women, devoted to learning and copying ancient texts, and to mastering the arcane arts. He is much like the Liabo Goddess Lumnis, in his endless quest for knowledge, although he does hate the gods of Liabo for their attempts at controlling Elanthia. His mortal form has short black hair with a steel grey streak, appears about thirty-five, and is cool and calculating - in natural form, he is a tentacled massive creature. Magic of all things is his realm, many belive he is the true path to all arcane power. Shrine - unknown. (Kesh'ta'kai)

- Folthre -
(Faeldin)

- Gosaena -
Perhaps a powerful and evil local goddess, she had quite a following in ancient times. You will learn more about her if you read about Bandur Etrevion. Shrine - unknown. (Kadaena)

- The Huntress -
Goddess of Vengeance, about whom you should ask Lord High Priest Bleeds. Her symbols are the black widow (and other spiders) and the eight-pointed star. Enemy to Arachne. She is sometimes worshipped at the Spider Temple as well. ( ? )

- Ivas -
The Dancer, beautiful four-armed woman with fair skin, green eyes, blond hair, and is very voluptuous and seductive. Said to be the goddess of lust and jealousy. Her cults are quite devoted to carnal pleasures including any number of perversions. She has the power to enslave mortals utterly, and often creates havoc among them by using the violence brought about by lust and jealousy. She generally perfers those than can not control their impulses, inline with Mularos. Shrine - unknown. (Inis)

- Luukos -
God of Death, "The Soul-taker", enemy of Lorminstra. One gets the feeling that the Gates of Oblivion are Lorminstra's way to protect the souls of the dead from Luukos, who would otherwise consume and destroy them, drinking thier blood and torturing their souls. Very tall, muscular, with almost metallic-bronze hue, he has slitted pupiled, large almond shaped eyes. His tongue is forked, has concealed fangs and speaks with a hissing lisp. He wears a long, white pleated tunic in mortal form - his alternate form is a huge winged snake with a frilled collar. His shrine is located in the underground ruins in the Coastal Cliffs. (Klysus)

- Marlu -
A hideous demonlike creature, he is the master of the vruul. He has black skin, leathery wings, large luminous green eyes and large, red claws. He is not someone whose attention you want to have - he's wantonly cruel and favors none. Shrine - unknown. (Morgu)

- Mularos -
God of Love and Pain, masochistic, a very twisted sort. Like many of the gods of Liabo, he will assume male or female form to seduce mortals. He appears normally as a very handsome blonde haired, blue eyed young man - and when assuming the female form, is equally as beautiful. He seduces mortals for enslavement and abuses them in a perversion of love, leaving them bloody and battered. Hi followers and slaves do not last long, for they'll kill each other for the opportunity to be with him. Shrine - unknown. (Molaris)

- Onar -
The Assassin of Lornon, patron of assasins. He is not malevolent nor does he seek power, but he is a professional killer who eliminates those the gods of Lornon find especially troublesome. Cool and calculating, he rarely kills without reason, and is generally found to be relaxed and friendly in his confidence. He appears thirty-something, with grey eyes, black hair and slight build. Shrine - unknown. (Omir)

- Sheru -
He is the bringer of night, and nightmares. With luminous yellow eyes, a black furred hyena head, and a cruel attitude, his visage matches his duties. Merely glancing at him in true form has left many mortals babbling for the rest of thier short existance. He is frequently at odds with Ronan, who also considers night his realm. Shrine - unknown. (Scalu)

- Volnar -
(Valtar)

- V'tull -
God of warfare and domination. His weapon is simply named the Slayer. His eyes are either black and impassive, or glowing red when he is in battle, his skin marble white, rippling with muscles, his hair silver. He is the champion of Lornon, the moon where the true ones dwell. His demeanor is determined, attitude rightious, obsessive and vengfull. If you are marked by V'tull, you can count your existance in only the time until he turns his attention to you. Shrine - unknown. (Z'Tarr)

- Zelia -
Called "Keeper of the Moon," she is a luna-tic. Stark raving bonkers, and her followers all wind up that way too. Wearing a silver breastplate and grey tunic over her statuesque form, her silver hair and grey eyes are wild with insanity. She haunts Elanthia in a misty chariot pulled by spectral grey stallions. Shrine - unknown. (Zania)


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*This missive is in the continual process of being compiled and edited as we learn more and more about the dieties. Special thanks to Lord Thalior and Lady Eillie for thier vast contributions.

-Please contact myself, Laranna MacRoy, with any further information
pertaining to the gods, shrines, or experiences to be updated to this file.

Wow, Kandor, nice finds!

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Doug:

The GS "Tomes" were where all the lore and background to GS3 lived before the de-ICING. It was not in game, there was no web site.

So none of the Ice-Age material will be found on web archives. I did not understand that was what you were looking for! The Tomes were added to the web when GS moved there in 1997.

The Tomes were their own menu item on the GEMSTONE Page at GEnie. I can't remember which choice number they were on the menu. Since I quit that same night, I don't know whether the original tomes were edited or pulled the night of the de-ICING.

They were taken, nearly word for word, from Rolemaster printed source material. It was where we went to find out the lore and background.

Every once in a while, notably for a few CoL things when that was introduced, Our tomes got new info added, but, for the most part, it was all.that.rolemaster.documentation from the Quellbourne and Shadow World books.

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<<The Tomes were their own menu item on the GEMSTONE Page at GEnie. I can't remember which choice number they were on the menu. Since I quit that same night, I don't know whether the original tomes were edited or pulled the night of the de-ICING.>> - Luxelle


What I am looking for is anything official from after the De-ICEing. I was hoping there would be an actual Simutronics document. The one we had on the House Chesylcha website looks like it should be a copy and paste from an actual document from before the current version (~99/00?) but I do not know that with any absolute certainty.

I have the "Tomes of Kulthea" that were on GEnie, there were articles for the main Orhan gods. (Example: Under "Kuor" there is a link to a page with his Tomes #.)


<<Every once in a while, notably for a few CoL things when that was introduced,>>

I might be missing some of these ones if you do not mean the Broken Lands documents. There is one titled "Ditmar's Tale" that is implicitly CoL related, because they are pretty clearly Priests Arnak and the end of it is talking about the Dragonlord on Mur Fostisyr making an alliance with the Kral. But I do not know anything connected to it.

- Xorus' player

(There's also a subtle distinction between what is in the ICE source books and what might have been true uniquely in GemStone itself. The Temple of Darkness Poem that is part of the Broken Lands documentation for solving the Dark Shrine puzzle describes a few of the dark gods in ways that are different than their source book forms.)

Heh. I appreciate your vote of confidence. :)

Sadly, no. The tomes weren't anything that would affect my gameplay much--since I had many of the paper sourcebooks, and it's not like they were spell-lists that I needed to know for what to train in, or player-guides showing me where to hunt...--so I spent nearly no time over there at all.

Hell, I didn't even really start on the Boards until Oghier was foolish enough to mention them at a gather; I didn't get into them in a BIG way until, you know. The bank account ran out. <cough>HourlyFees<cough>

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What's been documented here is already way beyond anything I kept.

Post de-ICEing was a pretty chaotic time. We spent at least a dozen months trying to pick up the pieces of what we had to do in less than a month's time when Iron Crown said, "Nope... contract breach. You can't use our stuff outside of GEnie and Prodigy." I remember looking at Elysia and saying, "We don't even have a MAP now...", which led to us drawing one out on the living room floor, ultimately leading to the geography we have now. Much of the post de-ICEing documentation happened the same way.

~~ What about the Human empire history?
~~ Where do the Aelotoi go?
~~ How are people going to get over to the Elven Nations once they're built? WHY are the Elves opening their borders now?
~~ For that matter... we don't even HAVE an elven history. We need to write that.
~~ I can't use this pantheon history anymore? Well... let's make something up.

A lot of it did get reviewed and we attempted as best we could to make the stuff connect in some logical way, but there was so much we had to re-write that plenty of it contradicts itself or earlier documents.

<<I remember looking at Elysia and saying, "We don't even have a MAP now...", which led to us drawing one out on the living room floor, ultimately leading to the geography we have now.>> - EREK

Found this the other day while poking around, the last time I saw it the bottom part was cut off:

https://waybackmachine.org/web/19980703063521/http://www.play.net:80/simunet_public/gs3/files/official/finalmap.jpg

Oh... oh, DARN! Simutronics no longer had to cut checks to the licensing company. Oh. Oh, DARN!

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Yeah, that was kind of like AOL and their "lets go to unlimited!"... while still in the "pay by time connected" contract with Simu.
Stand back, and get out of the way of the rising tide of money. <snort>

Oh, you were one of THOSE! :)

The problem with using the free AOL time was... it was always a new character. Discs were for new trial accounts, and characters were one/account. So yes, I had five Genie accounts. <cough>
(Although if Simu got paid for AOL trial accounts, I don't see any reason why Billing wouldn't have been willing to do changeovers from one account to the next.)

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I have no hesitation in saying that Simu moved to the web because the AOL contract was going to come up for renegotiation, and AOL was going to STOP paying based on amount of time connected.
(Although if Simu got paid for AOL trial accounts, it's no wonder AOL was needing to renegotiate!)

I've started working on this again. I have the basics in place for the Dark Gods, but there is still more to be fleshed out. There's scattered bits of lore all over. Some of them were developed a lot more than others. Hrassk as far as I can tell wasn't explicitly Charon/Lornon based, though the Spider Temple's moonstone eyes would turn red with it. She's separated out as maybe a local god. I kept Kadaena with the Lornon set because of the insinuations about the Lords of Essaence and that moon and their origins.

Orgiana's (Eorgina) "Black Hel" sub-pantheon --- probably a faction of Charon gods and dark spirit servants --- is included near the bottom. So are the Hrassk (Arachne) priests. They have De-ICE'd names because they are mentioned inside the Spider Temple. I'm not sure if the Titans were ever directly relevant, but the Changramai existed. (*)

- Xorus' player

(*) The Black Hel powers existed in the game in at least a minor way. The Dancers of Inis (Ivas) are also separated out because they were not modernized.

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Wehnimer's Landing Town Halls, Now With Authentic Frontier Gibberish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U