It's not in our confirmed color guide. Getting a new shade of a color approved for general use is something that goes through QC, and not the same QC as a shop or an item. It's more of a lengthy process.

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Wyrom, PM

It's not in our confirmed color guide. Getting a new shade of a color approved for general use is something that goes through QC, and not the same QC as a shop or an item. It's more of a lengthy process.

Wyrom, PM

Any chance of getting that confirmed color guide placed on the wiki for reference?

>>Is that rose madder?
"Rose madder" is a commercial/modern designation (for paint color, normally), so it's unlikely we'd ever use that term QC-wise.

>>Not sure what color "madder" is unless its the color from madder root but wouldn't that still be missing a word? Red madder, madder lake, something like that?
Sure, we can say 'red madder' but it's a bit redundant. "Madder lake" -- the "lake" part just has to do with the dye production technique and characteristics (rather than the specific red hue produced from madder root) vs. other production techniques.

When we're talking about the -color- "madder": traditionally (in terms of how madder as a color was referred to during our "target" time period), it's a strong red hue (think crimson/scarlet-esque) with dark purple undertones. Most modern dictionaries just list the color "madder" as 'red' or something similarly generic. When we're instead talking about the hues of dye that the madder plant can produce, then we get into a range of reds, generally with purples and/or yellows in them (which in turn produces some darker hues on one end, oranges on the other).

Anyway, the pavilion now says 'purple-toned crimson' to make clear the exact red hue that was intended.

~Kaikala

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Speaking softly to you, Rovvigen says, "Please dont be a stranger."
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Speaking to Rovvigen, you exclaim, "I am never strange, Rovvigen!"
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[MYCHAR: XxXxX is thinking to herself, "Please do not get any stranger..."]

>>Women purport to be able to tell the difference between "sea foam" and "forest moss"... <dismiss>
>>It's frickin' green.

Hahaha, generally, I think it's more just a 'how do you see color' vs. a gender thing ;) It's very easy to get sucked into color discussions for anyone who's in a creative profession or hobby that deals with color gradations in some way or another.

~Kaikala

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Speaking softly to you, Rovvigen says, "Please dont be a stranger."
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Speaking to Rovvigen, you exclaim, "I am never strange, Rovvigen!"
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[MYCHAR: XxXxX is thinking to herself, "Please do not get any stranger..."]

Ok....I learnt something today. :)

- Akanah

Yeah, but the Russians--like the Innuit--probably have 94 different words for 'snow'. Heh.

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Actually, I believe that (most) women do have more (rods? cones? one is the 'color' one) in their eyes, so they actually DO differentiate colors more finely than (most) men do.
It's mostly just the degree to which they try to do so, that offends me. :)

Hey, my eyes work JUST fine, thanks.

Like, say, being able to identify "flesh-colored" from across the (crowded!) room, at 'Con, for example... :)

It's mostly because it's not formatted in a single document or worded in ways to easily port them, much like a lot of the staff-side documentation. There are also instances where we have a term in one area, but there is some dated terms that some GM approved in 2001 in-game somewhere else that we don't even know of or that would never pass QC today. Part of the struggles of undoing 20+ years of different management styles and making the game more transparent. We mention spaghetti code a lot, but documentation, QC rulings, and official terms are scattered far worse. Finding the time to receiving all the information and compiling it into a format for players is a gigantic project.

Colors, for example, have results in many areas of the game, and they don't cross paths too often. Dye shops, warrior dyes, fletching dyes, unique dyes, scripted dyes, alter color guides, etc all have different places to look.

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Wyrom, PM