GMs don’t read this board.

There are zero plans to add fun spells or abilities to our class.

You mostly just develop items for sale for USD

It’s a waste of time for us to post new ideas for spells.

They’re hasn’t been meaningful GM interaction on this board for two years.

Sorcerers are already one of the most powerful classes in-game. If we're talking class development, I say focus on rogues. The changes that GM Naijin is working on with the lockpicking pool is pretty solid evidence that non-monetized development has and continues to progress.

~Land Pirate Maylan~

>Not sure how long it's been, but I'm seeing some pretty nifty sorc changes from when I left, and she seems pretty well-sorted to do a lot of different cool spells and things.

Sometimes it takes being away for a while to recognize how much active development we actually have. It's easy to forget or lose track of such things when you see the rollout day-to-day.

>I'd suggest is not a lack of sorc love but more a lack of need for anything significant at the moment.

I'd say that's a pretty astute observation. Anyway, glad you are enjoying your return so far.


~Land Pirate Maylan~

Thank you, for responding.

What are the plans moving forward for the class?

"I also read in here! But I'm not a dev GM, so not sure that really helps you out in terms of what you're looking for ;) (Sorcerers are just near and dear to my heart is all.)

~Kaikala"


Great, what is the plan moving forward?

People are posting a lot of ideas here, spells etc. I see zero response, for their effort. I'm cynical. Only, "I'm here." "I read the boards"

I ask again, goals? skills? anything? Or just duskruin items for cash?

Should we do a "go-fund-me" for major summon or some other suggestion that a player made on the board?

Thanks for checking in, and please provide some substance.

First of all, if anyone remembers the old Ildran Officiality Index, this post would be somewhere in the realm of an IOI = 3. I'm not really trying to make any kind of official statement, but I am offering my opinion/insight from the GM side of things:

I'm not sure what you are looking for in way of a bi-lateral communication about class direction at this moment. I've read these boards for almost 25 years, and very rarely have I seen a GM engaged in conversations about something that they were actually working on for a class before it was nearly done and about to be released. Sure, I've seen theoretical discussions about a class, and where shortcomings and possible areas to improve are. Is that the kind of communication you are looking for? I agree with the above that such communication seems to have slowly migrated off of the boards, in favor of a more live communication where many people can discuss it at once.

That said, talking about a class and what its limitations and areas that need to be improved on these boards is perfectly fine. It will be seen, and can be taken into account in future updates to the class, their abilities, their spells, etc. But if you are wanting some kind of direct feedback from GameMasters on any particular idea and/or area of concern...I wouldn't necessarily expect that to happen, unless you happen to strike a nerve about something in some extremely positive or negative way. Outside of bugs or issues in recently implemented changes (see for example the recent discussions that blew up after the changes to enchanting items), bi-lateral communication about a future endeavor doesn't happen much, unless a GM or Dev are seeking specific input on the implementation of something (which is unusual, because the game balance factors are in their hands). Discussions occurring post-implementation for tweaking purposes, however, are common.

And about Discord for a second, since that has been brought up: Discord is definitely a way to have tons of live communication with GMs. Most of it is just joking around and banter though. We don't officially announce something over there without posting it here as well, but occasionally I will see a GM talk about something on Discord that isn't really ready for an "official announcement" yet, so it doesn't make it over here yet. Premature discussions of things that may later make it into the game don't tend to get talked about often though, because if it doesn't end up happening for whatever reason, there ends up being a lot of disappointment and consternation that could have been avoided by just not talking about it in the first place.

A lot of people also use Discord "wrong" in my opinion. For example, people use the /ASK function in the discord to make suggestions to GMs all the time, as if the /ASK function is a request board. It's really not. This message board is a much better place to make a suggestion, where all GMs will see it, and it can be brought to the attention of the appropriate team for discussion. A suggestion isn't really a question, and naturally most of those suggestions get no response on Discord, basically for the same reason that I'm suggesting above that people don't get a lot of bi-lateral communication about suggestions on here.

<A lot of people also use Discord "wrong" in my opinion.>

I'd also offer that a lot of people looking for help with training or just about anything that doesn't need to be resolved quickly would be better off posting over here as well. I see a lot of questions that go unanswered because they don't get seen by someone that can help before it scrolls off the screen. Even if I see such a question I could answer when I'm scanning through the hundreds of posts that came in while I was AFK, I generally don't respond to it cause the person asking prolly isn't there anymore.

Starchitin, the OG

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

Which is why I've yet to do a /ASK on Discord. I see enough staff posting and replying in the threads that if it warrants response they'll respond. Or one of them will direct another one of them to the query if it falls under that GM's bailiwick. I'm afraid to use /Ask incorrectly and don't want to get a backside chewing for using it. lol. Also a fan of old Index. :) As to the whole sorcerer "prove me wrong" thing.

Honestly post ice age sorcerers over all have been in a pretty good place in my opinion. They've had a lot of things added over time and I figure it's getting harder and harder for staff to add things to the class. Gone are the days of watching Manny or Thalior chasing torkaan around and bleeding them while I Celtar snickered at them while leaning on my claidhmore.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for improvements and things that just make the class more fun, but I sincerely don't feel like the class has been abandoned and actually my sorcerer is my highest level character by a long shot, I'm an altoholic though and tend to play all the classes to some degree.(Shrugs) I just know that sorcery is fun and I enjoy hunting with the class.