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A question... 01/18/2020 02:55 PM CST

So I'm real rusty here but I'm getting closer to pulling my sorcerer out of retirement and trying to hunt him. I've been reading on the
Wiki about all the various mechanics changes etc and one thing that I'm trying to figure out if I'm not recalling correctly is how
102 Spirit Barrier/Air Wall worked.

I don't recall it inflicting a -20 AS penalty to missile weapons. I say this because my sorcerer is an archer and I recall making use
of 102, so when did 102 change? Or am I just totally bonkers about that? Also, trying to figure out if my master fletcher sorcerer is
even viable now. Anyone have any advice?

XRED

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Re: A question... 01/18/2020 05:24 PM CST

Gs3 airwall was -50 all AS and +50 all DS. Now it is about +20 DS -20 AS to start, modified by minor spirt spells. However, bolt spells are not given the -20. So you don’t gain the benefit of archery.

ASHBY

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Re: A question... 01/19/2020 09:44 AM CST

Thanks for the info, Xred.

So did it always impact ranged AS and we're just misremembering? Or did it change at some point to include ranged AS, like when the AS/DS modifiers changed?

I know that overall it just is what it is now, but it helps to try to figure out if we're just totally misremembering something or if something changed and we're not insane... ;)

~Heathyr

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Re: A question... 01/20/2020 08:21 PM CST

I do not know how ranged actually worked with airwall back then, but I would think it was a mistake if it did not have the AS penalty.

The spell description had said "-50 to all attacks that must move through it (either in or out)." Including bolts.

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ACMEGAMER

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Re: A question... 01/20/2020 08:37 PM CST

Actually bolt spells do not suffer the AS penalty. Arrows and bolts from bows and crossbows didn't used to I'm almost positive. I'm just confused as to when and why.

https://gswiki.play.net/Spirit_Barrier_(102)

HATESHI

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Re: A question... 01/21/2020 06:32 AM CST

102 negatively impacts all physical/weapon AS, including physical (but not magical) bolts/projectiles. It has since the early 00s. I was originally planning on using it with my main, who is an archer, based on that same description but quickly learned of the physical AS reduction. I now only use it when doing solo escorts/bandits, stopping it after each room ambush. If there was a time where it didn't impart an AS penalty to physical/weapon attacks, it went away sometime no later than around the GS4 conversion.

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Re: A question... 01/21/2020 07:22 AM CST

Pretty sure it always affected all weapons, but never spells. Didn't really start using it until the SorcerBard mid-levels, so not 100% certain, though.

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