Is it possible for us to get some kind of calendar of pay events for the rest of the year? Even if it's as simple as "events for Q4" and a list it would be helpful. I am trying to budget my silvers and dollars.

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PAY events mentioned so far:

Duskruin - April (not counting the March bloodscrip event since prepaid to Simu at this point)
Ebon Gate - late October
Grand Auction - 4th quarter but unlikely to be before EG so Nov-Dec

I assume 1-3 (probably 2?) additional spring/summer Duskruins, and several free fests and mini pay events of the Albatross, Spire, Expression Faire nature.

Aside from these things, we don't have any other large festivals (ie BMC, Ebon Gate type things) planned for this year. I'm working on next year already /hums

~Liia

APM, Events & World Development

While planning future events, will you be sure to review the costs for services like AsG changes so that people with 10x 40 point armor aren't charged the same price as people with 4x armor?

It would be greatly appreciated if the costs scaled to the armors benefits, instead of AsG alone.

>>pricing stuff

Pricing for these mechanical services are determined by the Development team based on specific formulas. There is a lot that can come into play with some of them, and so the GM will sometimes have to calculate on the spot when s/he sees the item.

As for the timing, if it's a flat cost, I can ask the GMs running such services in the future to post more details when they do teasers. Two months before an event, though, isn't likely. Event planning is a multi-step process, and it's not common to have those details that far in advance.

~Liia
APM, Events & World Development

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I'd be curious as to why someone is willing to pay 16m to change the AsG of plain 4x armor in the first place. Why not just buy a brand new set of 4x armor (250k) and get it altered to look like your old armor (1-2m if you buy a premium scroll).

The service kinda regulates itself in that if you've got armor that's so awesome you can't replace it, and you want to change the AsG 3 levels, it's gonna cost a penny. Otherwise, it's cheaper to find another alternative.

>>There are unique armors out there that simply cannot be replaced.

Then that probably falls outside the category of "plain 4x armor."

Enchanting is different in that it drastically changes the price of the armor. Changing AsG within an armor class isn't going to change the cost of an item appreciably (except maybe going from 18/19 to 17/20.) That's why the surcharge is there: it's the merchants getting a piece of the action from the value they're adding to the piece.

Like I said, it's self-regulating. People will only be willing to spend high silver on a triple-AsG move for armor that's already hot sh*t.

The fact that you can change the AsG of armor in the first place is a rather uncertain idea. I agree that the cost should take other factors such as padding into consideration when determining a price. 4x armor with heavy padding SHOULD be more expensive than regular 4x armor for the purposes of pricing, and the price SHOULD scale up with the sum of these factors, so that 10x T5 masterfully weighted spiked sanctified functional scripted etc. armor will cost more silver than most people have. Also, merchant enchanting services should work the same way. Rather than capping what can and can't be worked on, employ a sliding cost system. Since it'll be hard to calculate, let people walk up to the tent and have an NPC who can appraise their items before the merchant is scheduled to work.

>>Better armor should cost more to change. Just like it does in every other system.

Question: Why doesn't it cost more to get high end padded/weighted/whatever items altered?
Answer: Because it doesn't significantly change the value of the item. Just like changing the AsG.

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It's a message board and we're having a discussion, you don't have to speak like everything you say is gospel and anyone who thinks otherwise is garbage. It's an exchange of ideas, stop being pretentious and get over yourself.

It's even harder to have a discussion with someone who can't see the big picture: it doesn't matter what kind of change it is. It's a change that doesn't intrinsically affect the value of the item.

Lightens/deepens aren't mechanical? Why don't those cost more as well on fancier items? Read above to find the answer.

Agree to disagree!

AsG is an odd thing though since you can wear armor accessory pieces to increase your coverage. When a character wears an accessory such as greaves to increase the coverage of their armor, the AsG remains unchanged but the penalties (moving, casting, RT) change to correspond with the greatest degree of coverage. For example, if a character was wearing light leather that covers just the torso, they might decide to add arm greaves at one point. The behavior of the character's armor would then change to that of full leather since the total coverage would then be torso and arms.

Doing the AsG change allows you to forgo these accessory pieces and have the armor's stats cover all areas encompassed by the new AsG. This change, while often a beneficial one, does come with some penalties as well. You have to take into account the increased training required to train off any action penalty, RT, or spell hindrance. And some of that can never be trained off, just reduced to it's minimal level such as double leathers having a minimum 4% failure rate with Wizard and MjE spells & a minimum 2% failure rate with MnM, Sorc, and Bard spells. They often have a higher base and minimum weight as well.

While there are advantages to changing the AsG, doing so offers up disadvantages as well in ways that Enchanting, Ensorcelling, Weighting, and Padding an item don't. The disadvantage offered by these is more in the form of an opportunity cost. If you pad armor then you lose out on the ability to flare it later if you would have wanted, or maybe on the ability to ensorcel it if it is now outside of anyone's ability.

AsG changing is also a rare service with this being the first time I have seen it offered outside of a high-priced event. While it can be used on anything, it would be a waste of such a rare service to change plain 4x armor over when that can be found off the shelf in a half a hundred or more locations.


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