I used to be a pretty prolific poster on these boards, but I've wandered away from them. A discussion in the warrior guild compelled a number of us to decide that the time for action on an issue long ignored had come. This is my contribution to that effort.

The issues are multi-fold, but one of the key points regards the preservation of the history of this game. I have been a warrior for a long time. I was a warrior before the warrior guild, before DF Redux. I certainly haven't been around the longest of anyone, but I have seen a great deal of history through the years. A key part of that history is the people that have helped to shape the warrior profession through the years, and the way they are honored - or not honored, as the case is - within Gemstone. As old warriors are wont to do, upon nominating a new Guild Master tonight, and downing a number of whiskeys in Bert's office, we started to reminisce about those that shaped us through the years. The names started flowing more freely than the whiskey.

Any list would be far from complete, but I wanted to share just a few of the names that, in a few brief moments, still flourish in the hearts and minds of Elanthia's warriors:

Doomkilla, Drizzsdt, Berr, Jakester, Shattyn, Ooey, Changchuan, Skull, Kiera, Kiora, Canardly, Metaboculous, Shadowkatt, Gaq, Blaqtar, Waldo2, Welan, Cemb, Thundermin, Corael, Geoff, Thorin, Thrudh, Hyoko, Wanton, Commandant... Needless to say, I could go on and invite fellow warriors to contribute their thoughts below.

For years, the plaque outside the warrior guild held the names of the many great warriors that passed through the halls of the Warrior Guild. At some point, that changed, and many of us are upset by it. This needs to be rectified. Somehow, some way, the names of the greats need to be preserved so that new upcoming warriors can understand their history, see the names of those that built the place. None of these names can be seen anywhere. No warriors, unless they spend their time with the old souls of the lands, will ever know these names.

Whoever is the new Talisker, the new Stealth, the new Kuromaku - whoever it is that actually cares about warriors and the things they care about, this is a plea to you to restore the history, to restore the memory. The last announcement in the Warriors folder is from 2012, so it was hard to pin down who that is these days. Warriors are known for building monuments, for honoring their dead, their gone, their never forgotten.

And that brings me to Galyden vonRohrBach. Galyden, the "pink warrior", was one of Furrow's best friends through the years. Many, many that have been around will know his name, and some, hopefully most, will know that he was lost to us years ago as a warrior in another realm, taken by a roadside bomb in Iraq as he served our country.

Something needs to be done to preserve our history that is already long gone. The plaque needs to be restored, or at the very least, a historical register made available. Galyden deserves a statue, a monument, something - for what he meant to the world within Elanthia and without. All of this is long overdue.

-Furrowfoot

>I second this, or maybe I first it! Thru the years theres been lots of us, and sadly many of the greats warriors of the past have been forgotten, I've stood in the guild for years refusing to do much of anything unless kicked because I hated the loss of so many friends names all those years ago. People that worked so hard shouldn't be allowed to vanish. People that made the sacrifices shouldn't be ignored, and those that made the greatest sacrifice of all should be honored!<


I will add my call for a memorial of some kind to the warriors of the past. My first time in Darkstone was with Berr. Gaq was the one who introduced me to the legends bar when I reached my 50th train. Do not forget Aonghus as well. Like Frorin I could go on with the names.


Let's keep the spirit,


Cryheart

I fully support this and surely a record exists of the original warrior guildmaster plaque.

Let's put it up! And outside the game as well on the wiki (if someone has a clip somewhere).

As I recall, the original all-time guildmaster tracking system broke horribly and unrecoverably several years before I joined staff, and was thereafter replaced by local guildmaster tracking. Unfortunately, even though I personally recognize nearly every one of those names, the original records that would allow us to reconstitute the list are long gone.

We're always open to suggestions on how to appropriately honor past legends, however.

I should also note that players who have died in the real world are often honored in the Halcyon Hills area of the game, near Melgorehn's Reach. In the case of Galyden (unfortunately, not a player I myself remember), I encourage anyone who knew him to discuss appropriate memorial ideas amongst themselves and then send some ideas to Wyrom.

>The funniest part to me was that "the n00b" was the first First Leader, Brinn.<


I have been in contact with Sir Brinn. He has an updated way to reach him. He is still on the missive post office for Order of the Silver Gryphon and House Arcane. Don't want to get anyone's hopes up too high, but he indicated he may make an appearance again, even for a short period in the Fall. I keep waiting <taps foot impatiently>. :-)

I recall my first encounter with Brinn. I was in TSE and thought out about questions re: COL when I was younger, OOOPS! He tracked me down and politely informed me of the protocol. :-)


Cryheart

You mean the rippled-edge thing where she waved it at you like a flag? Yeah, I saw that same gal. Damn that was neat. :)

I suspect you mean the <bar that now appears to be Uncle Julio's, according to GoogleMaps> in Ballston, because that looks like about the right spacing from the IHOP a couple blocks down on the other side.

Did you ever make any of the D.C. area RennFaire gathers?

Since we're resurrecting old memories--and due to a lucky strike on my CPU search for something completely unrelated--try checking out a crosspost of just a few moments ago:
http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Meeting%20Hall%20Organizations%20(MHOs)/Order%20of%20the%20Silver%20Gryphon/view/111

Berr left his mark in Darkstone.
Berr also had one of the guild trainings named after him.



Clunk

(Buy your swords at CBD weapons in Zul Logoth.)

I think between the bunch of us we could find logs that show the plaque. I know I used to look at it every now and again. Enough log samples and we'd be able to get most everyone back on the plaque. One problem for me is that most of the some 10,000 logs I have, have had their dates scrambled.

Kerl

The first Master at Arms was Drizzsdt. The first person to master a skill was Berr. I don't recall who was the first guildmaster, but I know it wasn't me!

Kerl

"The first person to master a skill was Berr." -- Kerl

Heh. And you know which one it was, too. :)

Joe was a mighty cool guy, even if he did get a little goofy about finding that mecthar (I would swear he insisted on spelling it "mechtar", given that he came over from BattleTech) in the weapon-shop on Teras. Heh.

Any idea where the 'H' lies in that noun? I was never really clear, but I thought it was after the 'T' and not before it. :)

Is there any way to query the warrior pin item and bring back a timestamp of item creation too? Not fool proof, but could be another angle.

I'll see if my good ole 300MHZ Gateway has some logs.

~Ramladu

I am with Furrowfoot on this, checking some old drives and hoping I saved pics of them, of course I am about 12 PCs back at this point but who knows!

If nothing else we can manually compile a list of old Masters.

Ardwen

Dug up some logs and rummaged around in them. Couldn't open all of them for some reason, and couldn't find any clips of the plaque. Anyone have any ideas for search terms that would drill down better than "plaque"?

Kerl

Wasn't it Dwu Axetoe?

Both Krakii & my Fighter knew him pretty well. (Just to talk to; never really hunted with him.)