Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/29/2014 11:43 PM CDT
Hello everyone, Thank you in advanced for anyone who looks to help. I have been a shield brawl for over 10 years. I am looking to go runestaff because it seems like it is the way to go..

If anyone can suggest anything to make my training better or more efficient. My CS is 435 at current and I do decently with that power. I always wish for more <shrug>.



XXXXXX Race: Human Profession: Cleric (shown as: Historian)
Gender: Male Age: 55 Expr: 6152015 Level: 87
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 87 (23) ... 87 (23)
Constitution (CON): 73 (11) ... 73 (11)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Agility (AGI): 99 (24) ... 99 (24)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Aura (AUR): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Logic (LOG): 94 (27) ... 94 (27)
Intuition (INT): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 69 (9) ... 69 (9)
Mana: 318 Silver: 0



XXXXX (at level 87), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 130 35
Physical Fitness...................| 188 88
Arcane Symbols.....................| 188 88
Magic Item Use.....................| 188 88
Harness Power......................| 276 176
Spell Aim..........................| 188 88
Spirit Mana Control................| 188 88
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 58 10
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 142 40
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 93 20
Perception.........................| 188 88
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 140 40

Spell Lists
Major Spiritual....................| 46

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 45

Spell Lists
Cleric.............................| 127
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/30/2014 12:00 AM CDT
Odd, I don't see either shield or brawling anywhere in your skill list; did you omit them on purpose, or is this after you fixskilled them away?. As for advice .... why change now? The build works for me :)

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Level: 100 Deeds: 6
Experience: 10958172 Death's Sting: None
Exp. to next TP: 1828 Recent Deaths: 1
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 230791892
Physical TPs: 53 Mana: 225/313 max
(1538 Phy converted to Mnt)
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Guenhafyr (at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 130 35
Shield Use.........................| 201 101
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101
Brawling...........................| 201 101
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 96 22
Magic Item Use.....................| 102 24
Harness Power......................| 202 102
Spirit Mana Control................| 120 30
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 50 10
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 163 63
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 90 20
Perception.........................| 140 40
Climbing...........................| 150 50
Swimming...........................| 170 70
First Aid..........................| 180 80

Spell Lists
Major Spiritual....................| 67

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 67

Spell Lists
Cleric.............................| 165
Training Points: 53 Phy 0 Mnt (1538 Phy converted to Mnt)
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

Name: Guenhafyr vonZauberwalder Race: Giantman Profession: Cleric (shown as: Conveyor)
Gender: Female Age: 80 Expr: 10958172 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Constitution (CON): 99 (34) ... 99 (34)
Dexterity (DEX): 94 (17) ... 97 (18)
Agility (AGI): 96 (18) ... 99 (19)
Discipline (DIS): 84 (17) ... 84 (17)
Aura (AUR): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Logic (LOG): 99 (19) ... 99 (19)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 105 (27)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 113 (31)
Influence (INF): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Mana: 225 Silver: 717<<


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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/30/2014 05:29 AM CDT
You get an extra CS point if you are level +41 rather than level +40. You also want minor circles at 3n+1 for most efficiency, so at the moment you would have 128 cleric, 46 MjS, 44 MnS and on adding 3 at next level you'd take that to 129, 46, 46.
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/30/2014 08:11 AM CDT

This is my proposed training setup, my current has shield brawl. I wanted to get an idea from everyone if the build I put up here would be a good build for a runestaff weilding power CS build. I will Fixskill once I have this all set up properly as I don't want to mess it up.

Major questions:

Is spell aim worth training in if I am only 1x.
Should I drop First Aid since 1x is not going to let me skin well at my equal level?
Is there anything else I should train in?

I hunt with 317, High mana cost but most critters around where I hunt are not undead and I am a smite cleric.
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/30/2014 08:31 AM CDT
1x spell aiming wont be good enough for offensive purposes. If you just want to improve skinning survival would help with that as well, otherwise the first aid can come in handy if you need to bandage a dead one and get them back on their feet. Likewise, if you are a frequent raising cleric raising your lores to get perfect chrisms would be great, too
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/30/2014 09:25 PM CDT
Will I still be able to keep a good DS with a runestaff if I do not train in spell aim?
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 09/30/2014 10:18 PM CDT
The rule of thumb is to not train in any skill exclusively for runestaff DS, since you'll get plenty by training in other magic skills that bring benefits. Especially since you 1x AS/MIU.

If you are using a runestaff I presume you will want to drop your armor use down to 8 ranks for double leather.

Also I would take a look at the lore chart for the key thresholds.
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 10/04/2014 01:08 AM CDT

Why would I drop down to double leather from Brig? The hindrance is not that bad for a cleric. also if I 2x skill will that count as 2 ranks for runestaff defence?
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Re: Long time Shield/Brawl cleric going runestaff for first time. Any advice? 10/04/2014 08:53 AM CDT
Why have hindrance at all? Just MHO for pures.

Yes runestaff defense works with double training. Note that 8 ranks/level is equivalent to single training in the weapon skill, and there is a threshold at 11 ranks.

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Runestaff
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