There are three factors that determine body weight: base racial weight (see table), race weight factor (see table) and stats (STR + CON). Note that strength and constitution are weighted equally for these calculations. Base weight is the character's weight with (theoretically) zero (STR + CON). As the STR and CON stats increase so does body weight.
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RACE		WEIGHT FACTOR		BASE WEIGHT		MAXIMUM WEIGHT
Burghal Gnome		.40		40		120
Halfling		.45		45		135
Forest Gnome		.45		50		140
Aelotoi		.65		70		200
Elf		.70		70		210
Erithian		.70		75		215
Sylvan		.70		75		215
Dark Elf		.75		80		230
Dwarf		.75		80		230
Half-Elf		.80		85		245
Human		.90		90		270
Half-Krolvin		1.0		100		300
Giantman		1.2		120		360

NOTE: There is the possibility that some of the base weights and weight factors could be slightly off. GM intervention is always welcome for confirmation and/or corrections :)

The formula for calculating body weight is:

BASE WEIGHT + ((STR stat + CON stat) * WEIGHT FACTOR)


E.g.

Your character, a human, has 70 strength and 60 constitution stats.

Human base weight: 90
Human weight factor: .90
STR + CON stats: 130

(90) + (130 * .90) = 207 lbs total body weight

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BODY WEIGHT AND ITS RELATIONSHIP TO ENCUMBRANCE.

The amount of weight that a character can carry is primarily a function of body weight and the strength stat. Each character can carry a certain amount before becoming encumbered. That amount is:

[trunc to .XX((STR Stat - 20)/200) * body weight] + (body weight/200).


Our human with a body weight of 207 and a strength stat of 70 has an unencumbered carrying capacity of:

((70 - 20)/200)* 207)) + 207/200
(.25 * 207) + 1.03 = 52.78 lbs of unencumbered carrying capacity.

Once you become encumbered, each 1% of encumbrance is simply 1% of body weight. In the example above, our human (207 lbs) will have 1% encumbrance increments for each 2.07 additional pounds.

Note: Weight factors are not the same as the racial encumbrance factors.

Mark

Originally, but weight increases as your stats do.


~ Nuadjha, the Briar Fox

You inhale deeply upon your pipe, puckering your lips as you send out three rings of smoke before you, then puff out a small vine of smoke that darts right through all three which causes them to disperse in a hazy shroud!

Personally, I've always wished that the weight thing would be revised to be more realistic or even to allow us to customize what a character appears to weigh. Debia wouldn't weigh over 200 pounds wer she real - not as a paladin and not as a warrior. I dislike that the verb is forcing something onto my character in that way, and it's even more annoying in how players try to use that information IC.


~ The girl behind Debia

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>Personally, I've always wished that the weight thing would be revised to be more realistic or even to allow us to customize what a character appears to weigh. Debia wouldn't weigh over 200 pounds wer she real - not as a paladin and not as a warrior. I dislike that the verb is forcing something onto my character in that way, and it's even more annoying in how players try to use that information IC.

That's why I've been asking for two weights per character for ages. We can keep our mechanical weights as is, but I'd also like to see a cosmetic weight added.


Signed,
Raelee and her Strings

>Speaking to Zyllah, Alyias says, "See? Raelee knows all."

<<Seconded. Perhaps some sort of "weigh display" thing that we can set, preferably without numbers and instead a list of pre-written descriptions of body types that we can pick from.>>

I feel that the lack of something like this is the biggest piece missing from character customization. It's such an important thing too, really.

-Keleborrn.

I'm not so sure I like the concept of 'cosmetic weight'. But it may be just a verbiage thing.

The problem is that weight determines so many things. And that we, the players, only have a weigh / visual impact to determine if Debia truly needs to take Dionket's head off for a pert observation about her girth.

Perhaps we need a 'frame' reference. For example:

Dwarves are a bit shorter, a bit blockier, and much denser. Their muscles are heavier, too!

Dark Elves are taller, more lithe, and much airier. Their muscles are stringier, too!

Humans are average, slight to stocky, and average. Their muscles are average, too!

Etc, etc.

Where we want to be is there's nothing that says an elf needs to weigh 220 pounds to have a 100 strength ability, a 100 constitution ability, and maximum encumbrance ability. True, that's the way the system is designed, but not the way it needs to tell us!

>weigh Dionket

As an elf, Dionket's build is tall and slim, but he seems very strong (100 / 100)

As an elf, Dionket's build is tall and slim, but he seems average in build (70 / 70)

As an elf, Dionket's build is tall and slim, but he seems a bit slighter than he would if he were eating his wheaties. (50 / 50)

As an elf, Dionket's build is tall and slim, and wow! Does he ever look like a whisp of an elf! (30 / 30)

And so on.

At least, that's where I'm personally leaning instead of a 'cosmetic weight'.

Perhaps the same thing? Maybe.

Doug

If you are rail thin size 0,you should tank on 1 box,i'm 95lbs and can carry 500lb.and do backflips while knitting just shouldn't be an option.if you choose to be a slip of a thing deal with it just like those who choose to be halflings and gnomes do.

what i have noticed with weights in gs4 is most people have a hard time disconnecting from the human standard. Everything is judged like its human,they look at the weight and assume a human look for that weight.Heres and example we once had a lowland gorilla who had learn to get out of the local zoo.a 280 lber, most people heard 280lbs and thought huge gorilla.In reality he was a half grown 4foot skinny teenager, most people thought weighed 1/2 what he did.Really strong things weigh alot for their size.And as long as players stick to the human standard for everything any funtion that measures weight will draw a "yer fat" comment from the stuck in the real world massess. because a 180 lb giant woman at 6'10" is pretty much super model thin.

>>Don't let the weight thing bother you Debia. It's a silly little in game nuisance that's necessay in its own strange way. -- ~Ayamei

The number bothers me less than other people adamantly trying to impose their viewpoint of what my character looks like.

~ The girl behind Debia

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<<"Death comes on swift, if seemingly ponderous, wings.">>

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