So, I've been a heavy water-lore user for a long time, and when I first saw that 418 was getting a water lore kicker, I thought it would be cool. However, in practice, I rarely see the benefit, since honestly, I rarely use 418 in the first place. It's not practical during a hunt etc. and a lot of the places i WOULD use it, are already nodes so I can't use 418. Maybe in something like Reim TD, it makes sense, since you're not moving, but generally hunting in HS doesn't involve a lot of standing.

I was wondering what people thought of the ability to Evoke 418 solely for the lore effect, at a lower mana cost, to make that portion of the spell practical, without the base 418, to work in noded areas and also to be a more practical hunting spell.

>> You can simply cast it, then move on and still retain the benefit.

Quick clarification question - is this statement true even when the focus (node) drops because you're no longer in that specific locale?

I'll be honest, I use 418 sometimes, usually when I feel like standing (swarming conditions) or when I feel the area is small enough that I can get at least 1/2 of the pulses in the room without significant tracking / player maintenance. And I really enjoy this kicker bonus!

But I've never considered just casting it and roaming around getting an increase of xx mana for 10 minutes duration. Would be cool, if!

Doug

Is this +10 to Mana Recovery considered an Enhancive (and thus subject to the +50 limitation) or more as an "adjustment to it" like Song of Power/1018 appears to work?

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And while we're talking about Mana Recovery stats, is there any possibility of having the relevant portions of lines of the 'mana' (and 'stamina', while we're at it) verb tagged with the Enhancive (which is to say, "MonsterBold") color scheme?
I would prefer to have the same sort of thing as on the 'skill' display, where it shows both the normal and the Enhanced value, in order to determine exactly how much of what is being done, but I'm willing to settle for baby steps. :)

> @Estild: You can simply cast it, then move on and still retain the benefit

Another clarification, will it still interact in a deadly manner with Song Of Power after said wizard moves along?

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>> Gods, wizards, get your acts together and stop creating problems for bards... you never hear them complaining about us sorcerers leaving this spell behind.

That's because it's very difficult to nag when you're stuck on the floor with a hand in your mouth.

(Yes, I know the decay was made immediate, but I still want to complain. I'm in the right place for that, no?)

>> We could always start summoning legs from the ground to knock you over with a kick in the rump before sticking a foot in your mouth.... which, now that I think about it, would be WAY more awesome. Someone make it so!

Wasn't there a service for a custom grasp of the grave a while back?

>("Krakii Had 21 Ranks Water Lore" == 2 pulses of +10

18 mana to cast, seems like not much overall gain until a lot more lore/seed ranks?

Or am I missing something here?

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I thought he meant as a moving targ..err hunter.

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I like it when a bard joins and their head explodes because I forget to tell them I cast this all the time!

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I was using it as an example only, Askip. :)
(Although note that as Estild pointed out [#1927], it actually is a bonus, albeit a small one. +3 mana is +3 mana. No, I would probably not fiddle with it for that... On the other hand if I were "down from full by less than one pulse" then that means I've got free mana to burn, so I might drop one in the field. The issue I have is that essentially all of my recent hunting areas have not rewarded the "stand and wait for them" paradigm, although there were a couple of spots in the Sheruvian Monastery where that happened just from spawns & run-ins.)

Since I got turned on to Song of Power/1018 several years ago with helpful Bardic input here on the Boards, my guy has been loving it on a regular basis. Between that, some worn/held Enhancives for Max Mana/Mana Recovery, and good control of 'mana pulse'--all of which were great additions to the game!--he is able to stay in the field with mana when HE wants it (at the higher amount) rather than when the game wants to get around to coughing it up. He's usually good for one or even two renewals of it, if my attention wanders, before I have to start worrying about too much stress and possibly lethal results.

>> For reasons unknown, I cannot 418 the Sanctuary

While I can think of several 'game lore' reasons (read here as justifications for why an elemental spell won't work in an artificially created spirit controlled environment), I'd still bug it.

The 'room' itself is transitory, so it's possible that Major Sanctuary (220) simply doesn't have any awareness / way to handle Mana Focus (418). Yet.

Doug