In some circumstances, it is possible that 407 gives absolutely no messaging.
Here is a normal case without success:
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | You gesture and invoke the powers of the elements for the Unlock spell... |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | Your spell is ready. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | >cast my chest |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | You gesture at a simple thanot chest. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | The chest vibrates slightly but nothing else happens. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log: | The scintillating light fades from your hands. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds. |
Here is a case with no messaging (i.e. the chest does not vibrate or fly open, etc):
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | You gesture and invoke the powers of the elements for the Unlock spell... |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | Your spell is ready. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | >cast my chest |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | You gesture at a simple thanot chest. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log: | The scintillating light fades from your hands. |
| 2015-04-20-4.log- | Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds. |
There was no trap on this chest that I am aware of; certainly if there was one, we did not make any attempt to disarm it. I note that my young wizard attempted to pop this centaur box 44 times before giving up, and I passed it off to my near-capped sorcerer, who also took two attempts to pop it. Even in this case, the lack of messaging for Unlock occurred exactly once (attempt number 22, if you'd like to know).
My inference, previously stated on my guide (https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Popping_boxes#Messaging_4), was that this could happen under the situation of an extreme fumble or failed attempt, and was thus the only feedback mechanism at all from 407 (ie: I consider it a feature).
However, Doug was skeptical about my claim at first (though, I hope now with my replies on the guide discussion and update to the guide itself, he will be satisfied with my claim). He wrote:
>I'm curious where this line comes from >> Very poor attempts or fumbles sometimes result in no messaging at all << There is only one known case where messaging will not occur as far as I know. When a trap is magically disarmed, but the roll indicates that the trap would have been triggered, the box will not vibrate. That line will be skipped. I believe someone registered it in the bug database (but of course, cannot confirm). I can tell you by direct experience, however, that it does happen in those conditions. I've never seen it happen in any other condition, however, with all the boxes I've popped.
If possible, I would like to know under what circumstances Unlock (407) can result in no messaging. So far we have at least two proposals:
1) A very poor attempt, nothing to do with any traps.
2) A poor attempt which could have triggered a trap which is disarmed.
Are both of these right? Are they bugs? As for the first one, if it is in fact possible as my experience indicates, I do not consider it a bug but a feature. Regardless, this situation is rather rare.
I admit it could be some weird case where lich or my FE are eating the line. But my experience showed this only happened with quite difficult boxes and a large array of attempts. I am also not accustomed to lich or FE eating other lines of my game feed, and I'm pretty certain I experienced this in Warlock as well, possibly before I was even using lich.
Owing to the basically blind aspect of Unlock (no rolls are shown, virtually no feedback), it is really hard for players to get an idea what's going on here, even if we did further testing. Hence, my post.
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