>Loaning weapons.

Dupe them. Make it temporary. They fade after a week. Have the original item held in a laboratory of sorts. One dupe at a time. Lose it? Too bad. Wait a week. The original item is safe, though.


~ Nuadjha, the Briar Fox

You inhale deeply upon your pipe, puckering your lips as you send out three rings of smoke before you, then puff out a small vine of smoke that darts right through all three which causes them to disperse in a hazy shroud!

>Lose it? Too bad. Wait a week. The original item is safe, though.

Still sounds like a great way to bypass all item-loss mechanics.

- Greminty

I love the idea and would champion it as well.

But I think the larger problem is 'multiple copies' of the item in question being around.

What happens if the owner decides to whip it ou and start using, while it has been 'loaned' (no matter the terms) to another. Should it be allowed? Should one fade, or one not work?

I think it would be a blast -- and a great way to move high end items without fear of getting into an item that isn't as useful as one might think. Try before you buy type thing.

Still, I don't see a good way to control it to a single count of the item in question -- other mechanics' debates totally aside for the moment.

Doug

That said, I don't really think coding it would be the hard part.


~ Nuadjha, the Briar Fox

You inhale deeply upon your pipe, puckering your lips as you send out three rings of smoke before you, then puff out a small vine of smoke that darts right through all three which causes them to disperse in a hazy shroud!

Oh, and I would truly enjoy a silver subscription service where I can go to get an in-game list of all my registered items, and their properties. Just want to be sure this original thought remained central to the theme of some of these posts.

Kind of modified off the manifest? Need to pay 10K a month silvers. After 6 months of registered ownership, will start including all facts about the item known.

Something like that. Yeah. . .

Doug

Anything can be done in GSL, just a matter of the work involved.

There were a lot more issues than just item loss, and while the people working on it were cognizant of many, others kept cropping up.

Loss of enhansive charges, x-day item charges, items with temporary abilities, and charges, items crumbling, item degration (aka breakage),etc.

There was even a larger concern of keeping a table that touched every loaned item semi-often t and the lag that may incur.

This is not a simple system, and phantom duplicates will not account for any of them.

While it is a useful idea, and a needed one in some ways, its a LOT of work. The alternative is a much simpler system using something akin to mark done by both parties and if its not returned in X time, a GM would look into it and return it IF its not been destroyed. This has the downside of using staff time.

"Someone needs to implement a LOAN command where you can LOAN someone the item for x amount of days and then at the end a team of goblins show up and pry it away from you, and bring it back to the owner.

You guys could charge rental fees so people could feel uber for a week, and you get a steady stream o free silvers! It'd be like getting royalties for being awesome." -- Alsthar

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By: Krakii
On: 08/13/2004
At: 16:30:06
Re: So Ildran gave me a verb idea: "rent"
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Mechanically, this would be along the lines of "exchange", where the syntax would be:
rent <item> to <person | position> for <duration> at <cost> [renewable]
<item> could be an actual item, or it could be a property deed (Premium Home, or Player-Run Shop). In the case of a deed, full access is conferred on the target character.
<person | position> could be either an individual character, or an Officer of either a Player-Run Organization or CHE House; in the case of a position, the exact title must be used (i.e. "scrivener", for Twilight Hall).
<duration> would be in the format ##d##h##m##s, where the D H M S characters are mandatory; if you want 0 days, you put in 0d.
<cost> is expressed as a one-time fee, just like "exchange".
[renewable] is an optional flag; if present, <cost> can be paid any time during <duration> to add <duration> to the existing rental.

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I would suggest adding a capability to the Bank teller accept rental renewal fees on your behalf--for a modest premium--so that you need not be in-game in order to collect.

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An additional verb would also need to be added:
foreclose <item> from <person> <now | duration>
to force the return of the rented item.



<now | duration> would be a mandatory flag indicating whether you want the bruisers in the Bank Collections Department to go out and retrieve <item> from <person> (assuming that you actually have a rental out to that person) immediately--for a modest premium--or whether you want to allow <person> to keep <item> until the previously established rental <duration> expired.

In either case--whenever they get it back--the Brute Squad puts the item in "a <yourcharactername> box" [read: a Constabulary box] in a secure room added to the Bank.

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Additional requirements:
- The rented item would be flagged as though it were silvers belonging to a newbie: you cannot "give/exchange/sell" (or, of course, "rent"!), you cannot "drop/put".

- The rented item would be immune to player-character maneuvers (such as "disarm").

- If <item> is a container, anything inside the container acquires the identical attributes (such as <duration> and <nosell>). This would allow the use of such things as Girvahk's imflass greatswords [each of which has a matching case] or the short sword pair "Rhyme" and "Reason" [which also have a matching case].

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Probably a recursive coding nightmare, but what the hell! I can ask, right? This would let people like Ardwen "rent vaalorn sword to krakii for 90d0h0m0s at 3000000 renewable", and let me use Sorrow (for the low, low price of a million per month) rather than keeping things stuffed in lockers or sitting on store counters.

RENT looks awesome.

Side question, Kerl, what ended up being in those boxes at the Sheru Monastery opening? I remember the event, but not what was in those footlockers.

>>I currently use one of the shields (which I bought years later) and one set of the plate which I've had ever since that day.
>>Kerl

That's awesome. Too bad that story wouldn't fit in a Twitter message.

I'm curious is this for sale? Contact me here, Raxnoe@hotmail.com or in game. Gedron half-elf sorcerer

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Another item for the legendary list:

An ancient dead crystal ball

weighs under 2 pounds with no long description.

From what I understand (or understood as it is possibly from ice-age era), it allows the possessor to learn spells from two extra spell circles, but it works like charges. Once you chose that sphere of magic, it burns one of the charges. Not sure how it would work in the GS4 environment now with how they have the ranks capped at 3x for a pure though...

TG aka VV

>>An ancient dead crystal ball<<

::blinks::

Ummm, an ancient dead crystal ball? As opposed to what? An ancient live crystal ball? An odd description; one would think "inactive" or "non-functional" might be more appropriate wording.




"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"

"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."

So I was browsing back through this thread, which inspired me to read through the category on Krakiipedia, which brought me to the "Blink weapons" entry. Decided that I'm intrigued.

Does, ahhhh... anyone have one of these that they might part with?

I have the battleaxe and plan on keeping it forever. There is no better weapon out there for a hasted hobbit mage. One second ambushes that causes everything I hit to sleep is pretty sweet.



Isle Snack Muncher

I owned the battle axe before but sold it when I had two blink short swords made (I would have liked to keep the axe but I needed the coin for the certificates for the shorts). I don't think I'll ever sell them as they are incredible, but you never know. My ranger main uses them but my haste wizard who used to use the axe converted to TWC and OHE and uses two blink short sword when I hand them off to him.

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Drew/Chiv

Proud inventor of the Droit ballista and the Droitapult.

Invasion canary in the coal mine.

Blink handaxe + 1 second swings + Sleep with every strike + MOC = cone of sleep?

>That is all kinds of ridiculous. Can you post some clips of you using them?

Sorry, been busy, but sure.


Spike thorn with the ranger:

>mstrike elem
An earth elemental lumbers to its feet!
>
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
You explode into a fury of strikes and ripostes, moving with a singular purpose and will!
You swing a swirled blue-black gladius at an earth elemental!
AS: +402 vs DS: +132 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +81 = +358
... and hit for 26 points of damage!
Wild slash bounces off the back of the earth elemental's hand.

Your blue-black gladius suddenly lights up with hundreds of tiny blue sparks!

Dozens of long thorns suddenly grow out from the ground underneath an earth elemental! Several of the thorns jab into the elemental!
... hits for 37 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Well placed shot pierces knee, that hurt!
It is knocked to the ground!
... hits for 30 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Well placed strike shatters a rib!

You swing a swirled black-blue gladius at an earth elemental!
AS: +388 vs DS: +68 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +2 = +329
... and hit for 25 points of damage!
Blow leaves an imprint on the earth elemental's chest!

Your black-blue gladius suddenly lights up with hundreds of tiny blue sparks!

Dozens of long thorns suddenly grow out from the ground underneath an earth elemental! Several of the thorns jab into the elemental!
... hits for 14 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Strike pierces forearm!
... hits for 13 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Slash across back of hand, tendons sliced!
... hits for 40 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Strike pierces forearm!
The earth elemental shudders heavily as its heavy earthen arm falls to the ground!
The earth elemental shudders violently for a moment, then goes still.

Your series of strikes and ripostes leaves you winded and out of position.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
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[ MStrike Cooldown: +0:01:00, 0:01:00 remaining. ]


I have more here: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?p=1259206

The early ones are from my battle axe and the later ones are the two gladii. There are a couple that are too long to post here like when I put 635 (nature's fury) in both in grimswarm. It was scroll city!

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Drew/Chiv

Proud inventor of the Droit ballista and the Droitapult.

Invasion canary in the coal mine.

>You know you're not making it any less desirable for me, right? You know that my Thief is a Two-Weapon user with a sackful of gladii, right? -'pedia


Does he know ewave? Ewave flares are awesome.

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Drew/Chiv

Proud inventor of the Droit ballista and the Droitapult.

Invasion canary in the coal mine.

So... how do we go about correcting the items on krakiipedia?
I have a few.

>how do we go about correcting the items on krakiipedia?

editors have the same 'pedia name as their play.net. You can see who has edited each page in the history. You can reach any current editor at his/her play.net email