Some critters seem rather resistant to a number of attack modes, while being relatively open to others. Anyone know details about Krag Dwellers? Most creatures die when stabbed in the eye, but these guys just laugh it off. The are also resistant to many rogue maneuvers; cheapshots like eyepoke bounce off and they are almost impossible to subdue. On the other hand, I knock them down readily with sweep, and can put my fist through their skulls with one strike. Just curious if anyone has analyzed their various resistances. Log follows: they are tall so I have to whack them in the leg to get the head within reach.

>>H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a krag dweller!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have excellent positioning against a krag dweller.
UAF: 443 vs UDF: 352 = 1.258 * MM: 99 + d100: 55 = 179
... and hit for 47 points of damage!
Furious fast fist forces fibula fracture! Foot flies free, falling forward five feet forth!
A krag dweller crashes to the ground as its left leg is shattered into just so much rubble!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
>stance defen
> hide
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
A krag dweller peers through the shadows.

A krag dweller glances around, sure that it has missed something...

HR>get sai
You remove a superior silver-hilted vultite sai from in your deep black silk pack.
H>stance off
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>amb dwe left eye
You leap from hiding to attack!
You thrust with a superior vultite sai at a krag dweller!
AS: +382 vs DS: +84 with AvD: -10 + d100 roll: +83 = +371
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
Surgical strike removes the krag dweller's left eye!
Roundtime: 5 sec.<<

Really? 21 damage and nothing else? A minotaur taking that shot is SO dead. Heh, I was so rattled I figured there was had to be some eye still remaining, so I attacked 2 more times aiming for the eye; naturally since the eye was in fact gone, the target defaulted to the chest. When I realized this, I switched to the neck, then the head. No luck there either. And before you tell me that a sai isn't a hard hitting weapon, it's as good as a dagger. Ambush is about placement accuracy, and that sai works fine vs things like minotaurs.


>>R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>amb dwe left eye
You leap from hiding to attack!
You thrust with a superior vultite sai at a krag dweller!
AS: +382 vs DS: +66 with AvD: -10 + d100 roll: +32 = +338
... and hit for 10 points of damage!
Blow slides along the ribs.
Probably tickles.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>
A krag dweller pounds at you with its fist!
AS: +334 vs DS: +329 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +36 = +79
A clean miss.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>amb dwe left eye
You leap from hiding to attack!
You thrust with a superior vultite sai at a krag dweller!
AS: +382 vs DS: +66 with AvD: -10 + d100 roll: +72 = +378
... and hit for 31 points of damage!
Well placed strike shatters a rib!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
A krag dweller sits up and begins to apply some crude first aid to itself.
HR>amb dwe left eye
You leap from hiding to attack!
You thrust with a superior vultite sai at a krag dweller!
AS: +382 vs DS: +59 with AvD: -10 + d100 roll: +21 = +334
... and hit for 10 points of damage!
Blow slides along the ribs.
Probably tickles.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
A krag dweller peers through the shadows.

A krag dweller glances around, sure that it has missed something...

H>amb dwe neck
You leap from hiding to attack!
You thrust with a superior vultite sai at a krag dweller!
AS: +382 vs DS: +59 with AvD: -10 + d100 roll: +12 = +325
... and hit for 9 points of damage!
Talk about a close shave!
Let's try closer next time.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>amb dwe head
You leap from hiding to attack!
You thrust with a superior vultite sai at a krag dweller!
AS: +382 vs DS: +59 with AvD: -10 + d100 roll: +38 = +351
... and hit for 10 points of damage!
Thrust catches chin.
Leaves an impression but no cut.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>
A krag dweller pounds at you with its fist!
AS: +334 vs DS: +329 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +97 = +140
... and hits for 11 points of damage!
Torn muscle in your left leg!
R>hide
Your injuries hinder your attempt to hide.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.<<

At this point I realized that using a weapon was pretty futile, so I reverted to UAC tactics. POW!

>>HR>stance offen
> punch head
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a krag dweller!
Your attack is hindered by holding a superior silver-hilted vultite sai!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have excellent positioning against a krag dweller.
UAF: 443 vs UDF: 287 = 1.543 * MM: 98 + d100: 23 = 174
... and hit for 50 points of damage!
Awesome punch to forehead snaps head straight back with a sickening CRUNCH!
The krag dweller crumbles into a pile of rubble.

Necrotic energy from your leather handwraps overflows into you!

You feel healed!
Roundtime: 4 sec.<<

I'll have to test to see how puncture resistant these are, but at a first suspicion - poking something made of rock isn't usually the most straight-forward path to success, whether it's metal, or a finger.

Doug

Didn't Krag dwellers used to be slash resistant, not puncture resistant?

Dwellers to me always felt resistant to most everything when i had my ranger there. The best strategy I found was to use call swarm to knock down and just pick them apart slowly. For some odd reason they seem very easy to use swarm against. Besides that remember to skin them for their gems.

>>No good; they just don't crit at all.

Yes, this is a part of their specific design - they are very crit-resistant, as well. I meant to suggest that we not spend too much time bragging on UAC capabilities in this regard. It might have the potential to draw unwelcome attention.

Of course, a master would be able to break a brick . . . . 10 bricks down in the pile. So, I kind of like that there's one efficacious method of getting after these creatures. Monks for the win! (Or monk wannabes)

Doug

>>All I picture in my mind

Ah, Shidoshi would have been proud.

Doug

Heh. Yeah, what an intro to a villain, using a good-guy line!

Doug

Yep, stop using 'attack' and use the uac critical stacking. Works well with stone and also high hp, low stun, hard-to-crit-with-attack critters like massive troll kings.