Man I would really enjoy seeing player homes utilized more. +1 to all of this.

~Land Pirate Maylan~

>I'm pretty sure my home is a node already, but it would be cool if homes were more useful and used.

it is not

Absolutely +1 to home node.

I remember this conversation coming up several years back. Any reconsidering to be done?

~Amanda, player of Treeva

>>Private properties are multi-room and are built like normal areas. They don't share any mechanics with premium homes, so this is really a non-issue. Suggesting an upgrade to one system does not obligate one to suggest upgrades to a completely unrelated system that very few have access to. If you're concerned that improving premium homes impinges on the functionality provided by private properties, by all means, make suggestions!

I'm aware of the differences between a premium home and a private property. While it's true private properties are most often, multi-room, the personal storage functionality is also a benefit that they alone provide.

Currently, private properties are the only opportunity, aside from lockers, to get personal storage. They are also very rare, and often times very expensive to obtain. When they were offered in the Simucoin Store, they cost more than $1000.

Making a statement that it's a "non-issue" makes me believe you don't have a private property, because it would most likely be an issue for anyone who does have one, if their unique expensive functionality were released to the masses.

While I may also like to see homes improved, that improvement shouldn't lessen the value of what others have paid for.

Instead of offering access to "new" storage, homes could offer access to the locker in your homes town. That would provide the "storage" function that people are requesting without reducing the value of private properties.

As someone who does have a private property, I would be fine with the idea of adding in a DR-style upgrade option for premium homes, to include containers with (presumably limited) storage... so long as those of us who have an existing private property are afforded the opportunity to upgrade ours accordingly. So, if a premium homeowner has the ability to upgrade two objects to each store, say, 10lbs worth of items, I would expect that I could add at least that same amount to my private property, if not double that amount.

Similarly, if a node addition option is added to the premium homes, then I'd like to see similar compensation for my private property. Perhaps all rooms are now allowed to be full nodes. Or perhaps I'm afforded one of the future 'upgrade' options at no cost (that are not yet available), such as the addition of a workshop/summoning chamber/etc if I don't have one presently. Or perhaps I'm afforded another scripted feature.

I'm all for improving premium homes (and would likewise take advantage of any improvements for a second character). But I'm with VEYTHORNE in that I want to make sure that it does not unduly diminish the monetary investment already made.

- Overlord EK

>You now regard Eorgina with a warm demeanor.

>I would absolutely agree that I wouldn't want to diminish the value of the properties. I would have to draw a line at offering storage though, as that seems incredibly redundant of the offering of increased locker storage and multiple lockers already offered by being Premium, and I think we'd see a lot of houses popping up JUST for storage, rather than the intent of having a little dwelling... Perhaps adding a room or two, which can be outfitted, similarly to shops.--Whirlin

I can definitely see the appeal of having, say, a table that is able to store up to 5 lbs of things on it. That's a great way to display items of personal interest to your character, such as a quest item or trophy. It's also very handy for entertaining with food/drink items, or to use as a makeshift alter. Very limited storage like that I'm fine with, and I suspect that most private property owners would be as well.

I can likewise see the appeal of being able to access one's locker. I'm a bit on the fence there, though I'm more inclined to be fine with it than not - in particular if it's the locker for the character whose home is listed in the description (and thus not necessarily available to all characters on that account).

But if we get to locker-level of storage in terms of capacity for volume or mass on top of what is offered in a locker? That's where the idea definitely devalues the private properties.

- Overlord EK

>You now regard Eorgina with a warm demeanor.

I'm also a private home owner; and I wouldn't mind limited upgrades to premium homes but I do think in the long run - unless there is a massive overhaul the point is moot.

I was around when premium homes were first released and I have observed many discussions about them. Premium homes don't exist ingame like anything else exists. When a player leaves and closes their premium home it vanishes inside. When they return it remakes itself. I believe, but am not positive, that they were created that way to save server space during the time period they were created. Therefore, having storage inside would be a very difficult thing as it would likely destroy any item stored inside that wasn't part of the 'remaking' process.

Private homes are very different as they are permanent structures like most other buildings around. Each private home has a node and storage of some kind.

I wouldn't be opposed to nodes in premium homes as a private home owner but I also would appreciate an upgrade to private homes as it is expensive to acquire and maintain them. Perhaps the full home noded or a supernode; something special.

As to premium homes, I would suggest purchase-able scripts for them as a possibility. Make them more RP friendly; for example if your character is a baker you can buy stoves and what not that are functional and perhaps there could be a worktable that would only hold food items (which are subject to loss of course due to the nature of the home). But at least while in the home and using the scripts, whatnot it is functional. Same for other items.. vanities that have mirror and hairbrush scripts or closets that have rummaging through wardrobe scripts etc.

I would have to admit I would be opposed to locker access in premium homes as that is what the CHE is for. And let me tell you it can sometimes be hard enough to get members to participate with the CHE house much less hang out there if it wasn't for locker access. I wouldn't want to see the CHE destroyed because they lose the ability to provide the populace with lockers.

Having said this; I wouldn't mind a premium home type addition to the CHE houses where more benefits could be afforded to the members. For example, Silvergate Gardens Neighborhood with homes and a locker annex onsite. I say this because I know firsthand how hard officers of the CHE work and having something that would lose members from their organizations is not something I could support.

So many hearts. Thank you!!

~Amanda, player of Treeva

Alright... Now that I've provided an update on the node side, and they're seemingly doing something about it, time to provide an update on the other side for the XML corruption.

This XML corruption is incredibly isolated to Lich with WFE, it's underlying cause is that Lich authenticates to Simu as though you're using Stormfront, regardless of Front End. Meanwhile, Simu has different ways of managing their two different front ends on an XML basis, because Stormfront has a bunch of additional shineys that WFE does not have. This particular line of corruption comes from the way Lich interprets the XML sent to Stormfront for room window updates within homes. It's important to note that this is different than how it pushes updates about every other room! Specifically, the room title remains, but the room description is never actually encapsulated in a room_description tag, as it can be variably reset using the HOME command.

So, tl;dr, It would be a fairly robust alteration to how Lich interprets XML, or a change on Simu's side to how they're pushing the XML, or it would require rewriting of how the room descriptions are stored for homes, or... Someone could write a lich script to fix it for WFE... which is exactly what happened.

I worked with Ondreian, Tysong, and Lost Ranger (sorry, forgot IG name), to create a script... And by worked with, I mean, they did all the work, I just provided logs/imput/whatnot. Lost Ranger identified the overall problem and a method for solution, Ondreian took point establishing the framework, Tysong did polishing work. The script is now available as homefix.lic on the Repository.

~Whirlin