Fishing has been around for a long time, but I realize not a lot is known about fishing by the masses.
Getting a fish on the line.
The first set of checks determine the rarity of fish.
There is a seasonal bonus, it's better to fish in the spring and summer. Fall is neutral. Winter has a penalty. This isn't really suppose to be revealed, but given seasons aren't the same across the world, these seasons are reflected on the United States.
There are bonuses to fishing during certain hours of the day. This isn't meant to be revealed. It's not a random thing.
There are bonuses for the area you're fishing in (is it a good/hot spot).
Your lure has a bonus as long as it's used in the right depth of water.
Then there is just a random element entirely for those that don't know what they are doing.
Reeling it in!
Once the fish is on your line, there are a new set of checks.
The only stat that is used in strength.
The fish's strength is determined by the phase you're in. Did you just hook it? Is it wearing down? A fish just hooked is strong. Bigger fish are harder to catch from having an inherited strength bonus.
There are some random elements to both the fisherman and the fish here as well. Think of these as "critical catches." But it also helps players who don't have strength or aren't waiting to tire the fish out.
Snapping your line.
If you put out too much slack, you're giving yourself a huge penalty. You will be messaged when you do this. Learn what is good enough.
Reeling in too early has a bigger chance to snap your line.
Leaving the fish on the line longer tires the fish out, but it also weakens your line.
The catch!
The fish that went on your line was determined at first bite. There are 5 tiers of rarity for fish. There are 3 depths. Each depth has the 5 tiers.
Fishing now tracks your total fish caught, as well as which which tier it came from.
Wyrom, PM
SIMU-WYROM
VUWH60A
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 02:16 PM CDT
Thanks Wyrom, that makes me want to dust off the old rod.
:D
VEYTHORNE
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 02:23 PM CDT
Thank you for releasing information about fishing. There was nothing officially released that I could find anywhere.
If you could clarify a few details:
>There are bonuses for the area you're fishing in (is it a good/hot spot).
Are you talking about towns (Landing vs Icemule vs EG) when you say area or distance & depth?
>Your lure has a bonus as long as it's used in the right depth of water.
The lures sold at EG all state: equally effective at any depth.
- Are they essentially the same and provide the same bonus?
Do lures that are made specifically for a specific depth provide a different bonus?
- looks like it would be rather effective on the surface.
When we PULL - are we changing the distance, or is distance only changed when the messaging changes?
-- The line appears to have been cast a very long distance away.
-- The line appears to have been cast a good distance away.
I'm trying to understand if the fishing pool is like a 3x3 grid, or there are multiple distances within distance categories.
If you could clarify a few details:
>There are bonuses for the area you're fishing in (is it a good/hot spot).
Are you talking about towns (Landing vs Icemule vs EG) when you say area or distance & depth?
>Your lure has a bonus as long as it's used in the right depth of water.
The lures sold at EG all state: equally effective at any depth.
- Are they essentially the same and provide the same bonus?
Do lures that are made specifically for a specific depth provide a different bonus?
- looks like it would be rather effective on the surface.
When we PULL - are we changing the distance, or is distance only changed when the messaging changes?
-- The line appears to have been cast a very long distance away.
-- The line appears to have been cast a good distance away.
I'm trying to understand if the fishing pool is like a 3x3 grid, or there are multiple distances within distance categories.
VEYTHORNE
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 02:34 PM CDT
Could you also share anything related to time?
Are we wasting our time if we wait longer then X seconds in a specific distance & depth?
Does PULL "reset" the timer or scare off the fish?
If we just leave the bait sitting there, will it eventually catch something or do we have to be in the hot spot/good area?
Are we wasting our time if we wait longer then X seconds in a specific distance & depth?
Does PULL "reset" the timer or scare off the fish?
If we just leave the bait sitting there, will it eventually catch something or do we have to be in the hot spot/good area?
ARCHSENEX
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 02:38 PM CDT
I recommend everybody reread beldannons guide in light of this info. He shared some recomendations and has been very successfull.
https://forums.elanthia.online/topic/534/master-fisherman-beldannon-s-guide-to-fishing
SIMU-WYROM
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 02:47 PM CDT
>>Are you talking about towns (Landing vs Icemule vs EG) when you say area or distance & depth?
No. I'm talking about if the area is set up to be a hot spot. This is something a GM does.
>>Do lures that are made specifically for a specific depth provide a different bonus?
The ones sold at EG are intended to ease the understanding of the system. Not all lures are created this way.
>>When we PULL - are we changing the distance, or is distance only changed when the messaging changes?
When you say distance, are you meaning depth?
This is your slack, pay attention to the messaging to see if it's working for you.
>>Could you also share anything related to time?
No, but it's not just random hours of the day. Google real fishing guides, the person who made this did a lot of research and/or was a fisherman themselves.
>>Are we wasting our time if we wait longer then X seconds in a specific distance & depth?
Pay attention to the messaging. Learn when is a good time to try reeling it in.
>>Does PULL "reset" the timer or scare off the fish?
No, but you can stress your line or even snap it.
>>If we just leave the bait sitting there, will it eventually catch something or do we have to be in the hot spot/good area?
Just leaving it there is a good way to not catch anything/snap your line. Hot spots are just bonuses where I said they are looked at. Nothing other than that.
Wyrom, PM
No. I'm talking about if the area is set up to be a hot spot. This is something a GM does.
>>Do lures that are made specifically for a specific depth provide a different bonus?
The ones sold at EG are intended to ease the understanding of the system. Not all lures are created this way.
>>When we PULL - are we changing the distance, or is distance only changed when the messaging changes?
When you say distance, are you meaning depth?
This is your slack, pay attention to the messaging to see if it's working for you.
>>Could you also share anything related to time?
No, but it's not just random hours of the day. Google real fishing guides, the person who made this did a lot of research and/or was a fisherman themselves.
>>Are we wasting our time if we wait longer then X seconds in a specific distance & depth?
Pay attention to the messaging. Learn when is a good time to try reeling it in.
>>Does PULL "reset" the timer or scare off the fish?
No, but you can stress your line or even snap it.
>>If we just leave the bait sitting there, will it eventually catch something or do we have to be in the hot spot/good area?
Just leaving it there is a good way to not catch anything/snap your line. Hot spots are just bonuses where I said they are looked at. Nothing other than that.
Wyrom, PM
ATALYCUS
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 03:00 PM CDT
Good stuff wyrom. Not that I needed that info :)
lol
BRANDTJRT
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:08 PM CDT
>>No, but it's not just random hours of the day. Google real fishing guides, the person who made this did a lot of research and/or was a fisherman themselves.
Is it based on fishing in a particular place/environment real world wise? Or is each area appropriate (e.g. it's tropical ocean fishing here?).
Also, to anyone, is there a relation between depth and time of day for commonality? Do fish go to sleep lower during the day or night or anything?
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Is it based on fishing in a particular place/environment real world wise? Or is each area appropriate (e.g. it's tropical ocean fishing here?).
Also, to anyone, is there a relation between depth and time of day for commonality? Do fish go to sleep lower during the day or night or anything?
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JOEKUPS
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:14 PM CDT
Fish generally retreat to deeper water midday to cool off and come near the surface in the early morning and late afternoon.
Wyrom says, "Ordim is the reason savants won't be coded as well."
Wyrom says, "Ordim is the reason savants won't be coded as well."
VEYTHORNE
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:34 PM CDT
I think your answers to my previous questions were based upon the Reeling it in! portion...
For me, it feels like all of my issues are in the: Getting a fish on the line. portion...
I choose a depth based upon my weight choice, I choose a distance via (PUSH/WAVE/RAISE) and then I wait.
It's the "waiting period" that I would like to understand better or get tips on.
I feel like a lot of a time, I'm just wasting my time casting over and over, never finding a fish.
>>If we just leave the bait sitting there, will it eventually catch something or do we have to be in the hot spot/good area?
>Just leaving it there is a good way to not catch anything/snap your line. Hot spots are just bonuses where I said they are looked at. Nothing other than that
This is the part I'd like any tips on.
I cast my rod.. about how long should I wait before I start to reel in the slack?
It seems like it can take up to 10 minutes to hook a fish, but from your statement it sounds like leaving my bait sitting around isn't a good idea.
For me, it feels like all of my issues are in the: Getting a fish on the line. portion...
I choose a depth based upon my weight choice, I choose a distance via (PUSH/WAVE/RAISE) and then I wait.
It's the "waiting period" that I would like to understand better or get tips on.
I feel like a lot of a time, I'm just wasting my time casting over and over, never finding a fish.
>>If we just leave the bait sitting there, will it eventually catch something or do we have to be in the hot spot/good area?
>Just leaving it there is a good way to not catch anything/snap your line. Hot spots are just bonuses where I said they are looked at. Nothing other than that
This is the part I'd like any tips on.
I cast my rod.. about how long should I wait before I start to reel in the slack?
It seems like it can take up to 10 minutes to hook a fish, but from your statement it sounds like leaving my bait sitting around isn't a good idea.
LORDKRIP
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:37 PM CDT
This system has a lot more depth than I realized.
Thank you for all the information, Wyrom.
Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. - Albert Einstein
Thank you for all the information, Wyrom.
Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. - Albert Einstein
ARCHSENEX
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:50 PM CDT
>> I cast my rod.. about how long should I wait before I start to reel in the slack?
I heard you want to give it a tug every 3 to 5 minutes
I heard you want to give it a tug every 3 to 5 minutes
SIMU-WYROM
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:51 PM CDT
Definitely check out the messaging. Fishing is available in more locations than EG, so practicing somewhere else might be good.
Wyrom, PM
Wyrom, PM
ARCHSENEX
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/08/2017 04:53 PM CDT
>> Fishing is available in more locations than EG, so practicing somewhere else might be good.
Yeah, I think that's the reel problem, people are doing it for the first time here and getting frustrated because they see more practiced players pulling things in, and this is one of the few true skill-based things in GS
Yeah, I think that's the reel problem, people are doing it for the first time here and getting frustrated because they see more practiced players pulling things in, and this is one of the few true skill-based things in GS
STARMOTH777
Re: Fishing in Elanthia
10/09/2017 10:15 PM CDT
Thanks for the info Wyrom, really appreciated!
