I have been experimenting with Predator's eye. I have been ambushing with the UCS and small brawling weapons.

I have had one successful attempt with Predator's eye using UCS

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch an Ithzir seer!
You have good positioning against an Ithzir seer.
UAF: 642 vs UDF: 463 = 1.386 * MM: 95 + d100: 91 = 222
... and hit for 72 points of damage!
Palm strike to face drives nose straight into brain!
The Ithzir seer falls to the ground in a crumpled heap.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The deep blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The Ithzir seer no longer bristles with energy.
The dim aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir seer seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

The remainder of the attempts look like this

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch an Ithzir janissary!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to jab an Ithzir janissary!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to kick an Ithzir janissary!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

When I ambush using a brawling weapon my impression is there is no differance in accuracy and there is no precise aiming message.

<<And you have 202 ranks of ambush right? Because I only have 101 and I can hit the eye quite often from the open. That seems a little weird to me.>>

I do have 202 ranks in ambush.

Do you get the precise aiming message when you use predator's eye?

>I have had one successful attempt with Predator's eye using UCS

I don't think Predator's Eye works with the UCS. From the documentation, it looks like it requires a weapon.

-some mage's hat

>You failing to find an opening on a janissary seems quite befuddling to me. Does ambush UAC have a different formula to see if you actually get to make a strike, or am I missing something?

I agree. People with 2x ambushing have been failing to find openings fairly frequently. Something seems wrong about that.

Droit

---

Speaking to you, Ceyrin asks, "Do you spontaneously come back to life when you die?"
Speaking to you, Ceyrin says, "Because I do."
You say, "Yes. I have a condition called Annoraxia.""

This happened 6 days ago.

You leap from hiding to strike!

You make a precise attempt to punch a glistening cerebralite!

You have excellent positioning against a glistening cerebralite.

UAF: 487 vs UDF: 399 = 1.220 * MM: 77 + d100: 67 = 160

... and hit for 42 points of damage!

Powerful uppercut crushes right eye like jelly!

Dark shadowy tendrils swirl languidly around a glistening cerebralite.

Roundtime: 4 sec.

>l cer

You see a fairly typical glistening cerebralite.

It has minor lacerations about its head and a possible mild concussion and a blinded right eye.

It is stunned.

It has nothing at this time.

>hide

Roundtime: 3 sec.

You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.

>punch head

You fail to find an opening for your strike.

Roundtime: 4 sec.

2x ambush, open hands. I haven't noticed it with a bow in my hand; perhaps there's some sort of screw up with open hands and lack of TWC training?


Droit

---

Speaking to you, Ceyrin asks, "Do you spontaneously come back to life when you die?"
Speaking to you, Ceyrin says, "Because I do."
You say, "Yes. I have a condition called Annoraxia.""

I fail to find an opening every time I have tried and aimed punch or kick attack while I have predator's eye up. I have only seen it work once in two dozen attempts.


I am also having another issue. When ambushing without predator's eye up running and bare handed I ambush with an AS of 513. If I put on the 4x hand and foot wraps available from the backroom access at Tykel's my AS remains at 513 instead of increasing to 533. I've also tried blading some other brawling items from various armor shops and the effect is the same. I am not getting the bonus.

I can post some logs if that would be helpful.

Wolfloner

Maybe you rolled a one on your targeting roll?

~Galenok

Hi Finros

Is predator's eye meant to be used with UCS?

If so, then it does not work for me. Not only does it not work, but it prevents me from hitting anything with jab, punch, grapple or kick if it is an aimed attack while predator's eye is up.

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to jab a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to grapple a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to kick a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

Wolfloner

I've only failed to find an opening to strike in recent years against cerebralites (can't remember failing since the switch to gs4 until them), though I haven't spent much time deep in the scatter though, so I think they have an extra modifier involved somehow. I think that messaging was purely based on level after a certain threshold of ranks in ambush, but that's off the top of my head and is totally anecdotal.

This happened long before the UCS was added. I can't imagine any circumstance that Wolfloner should get that message against a bendith though, aside from something wonky.

Seems no one else is having the issue. Am I correct in assuming no one else is having trouble using predator's eye with UCS?

Wolfloner

>>I've only failed to find an opening to strike in recent years against cerebralites (can't remember failing since the switch to gs4 until them), though I haven't spent much time deep in the scatter though, so I think they have an extra modifier involved somehow.

A while ago there was a change that let you aim at creatures regardless of size, however, aiming at something small, i.e. cerebralites, yielded a penalty to your chances.

Here is a log of attempting ambush using the UCS with predator eye up

You see a fairly typical forest bendith that is lying down.
She has a completely severed right leg, a completely severed left leg and a blinded right eye.
She is stunned.
She has a stained leather helm (worn), a warped wooden shield and a scimitar.
>
You relax your mind and are no longer prepared to blank it at a moment's notice.
You begin to survey your surroundings with a Predator's Eye.
>hide
* Neldor joins the adventure.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
* Meshullam joins the adventure.
H>.p
[Script p is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>aim head
>stance offensive
>target
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>punch
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>
A forest bendith crawls southeast.
R>.d se
[script aborted]
[Script d is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>peer se
* Wildeborne joins the adventure.
>go se
[script done]
You peer southeast and see ...

[Gyldemar Forest, Cobbled Path - 4734]
The sound of flowing water is strong, echoing eerily against the silent oaks. A sense of timelessness pervades the shadow-enclosed forest, seeming to shield it from change and outside influence. A cool breeze rustles the leaf-laden branches, sending a tingle across exposed flesh. You also see a forest bendith that is lying down and a wood sprite.
Obvious paths: south, northwest
>
[Gyldemar Forest, Cobbled Path - 4734]
The sound of flowing water is strong, echoing eerily against the silent oaks. A sense of timelessness pervades the shadow-enclosed forest, seeming to shield it from change and outside influence. A cool breeze rustles the leaf-laden branches, sending a tingle across exposed flesh. You also see a forest bendith that is lying down and a wood sprite.
Obvious paths: south, northwest
>
A wood sprite glances around and then wanders northwest!
>.p
[Script p is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>aim head
A forest bendith crawls south.
>stance offensive
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>target
You are now in an offensive stance.
>punch
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
>
You currently have no valid target. You will need to specify one.
>stance defensive
>hide
[script done]
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>l
[Gyldemar Forest, Cobbled Path - 4735]
The sound of flowing water is strong, echoing eerily against the silent oaks. A sense of timelessness pervades the shadow-enclosed forest, seeming to shield it from change and outside influence. A cool breeze rustles the leaf-laden branches, sending a tingle across exposed flesh. You also see the Wolfloner disk.
Obvious paths: south, northwest
HR>.d s
[Script d is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>peer s
>go s
[script done]
You peer south and see ...

[Gyldemar Forest, Stream Bank - 4735]
A gurgling swift-flowing stream interrupts the path of scattered and broken cobblestones, spanning the length of two men across the leafy floor. Its depth is unclear, but the dark hue of the waters suggests that its passage has worn a considerable channel through the woods. A pale granite outcropping, lying just a short leap from the pebbled bank, emerges from the dark waters and might provide a safe and easy means of crossing to the other side. You also see a forest bendith that is lying down.
Obvious paths: north
H>
[Gyldemar Forest, Stream Bank - 4735]
A gurgling swift-flowing stream interrupts the path of scattered and broken cobblestones, spanning the length of two men across the leafy floor. Its depth is unclear, but the dark hue of the waters suggests that its passage has worn a considerable channel through the woods. A pale granite outcropping, lying just a short leap from the pebbled bank, emerges from the dark waters and might provide a safe and easy means of crossing to the other side. You also see a forest bendith that is lying down.
Obvious paths: north
Roundtime: 2 sec.
HR>
A forest bendith sniffs the air for something nearby..
HR>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
H>.p
[Script p is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>aim head
>stance offensive
>target
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>punch
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You do not have a target.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>
A forest bendith tries to drag herself away but collapses in agony!
R>stance defensive
>hide
[script done]
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>.k
[Script k is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>aim head
>stance offensive
>target
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>kick
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to kick a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
R>
A forest bendith tries to drag herself away but collapses in agony!
R>stance defensive
>hide
[script done]
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>.gr
[Script gr is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
* Vultieri joins the adventure.
HR>aim neck
>stance offensive
>target
You're now aiming at the neck of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>grapple
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to grapple a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>
You feel fully energetic again.
R>
A forest bendith crawls north.
R>
* Morkran joins the adventure.
R>stance defensive
>hide
[script done]
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>.d n
[Script d is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>peer n
>go n
[script done]
You peer north and see ...

[Gyldemar Forest, Cobbled Path - 4736]
The sound of flowing water is strong, echoing eerily against the silent oaks. A sense of timelessness pervades the shadow-enclosed forest, seeming to shield it from change and outside influence. A cool breeze rustles the leaf-laden branches, sending a tingle across exposed flesh. You also see a forest bendith that is lying down and a wood sprite.
Obvious paths: south, northwest
H>
[Gyldemar Forest, Cobbled Path - 4736]
The sound of flowing water is strong, echoing eerily against the silent oaks. A sense of timelessness pervades the shadow-enclosed forest, seeming to shield it from change and outside influence. A cool breeze rustles the leaf-laden branches, sending a tingle across exposed flesh. You also see a forest bendith that is lying down and a wood sprite.
Obvious paths: south, northwest
Roundtime: 2 sec.
HR>.k
[Script k is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
>aim head
>stance offensive
>target
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>kick
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to kick a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
R>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
R>
A wood sprite thrusts with a spear at you!
With blinding speed, you dodge the attack!
R>
* Meshullam joins the adventure.
R>
A forest bendith swings a scimitar at you!
AS: +202 vs DS: +446 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +5 = -209
A clean miss.
R>stance defensive
>hide
[script done]
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>.j
[Script j is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
A wood sprite sniffs the air for something nearby..
HR>
* Sonntag joins the adventure.
HR>aim right eye
>target
>stance offensive
You're now aiming at the right eye of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
H>jab
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>stance defensive
[script done]
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to jab a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>
...wait 4 seconds.
R>
A wood sprite glances around and then wanders northwest!
R>
You notice Vvuural moving stealthily into the area.
R>
You notice Vvuural moving stealthily south.
R>
A forest bendith tries to drag herself away but collapses in agony!
>get pain
You remove a dark vultite paingrip from in your spidersilk cloak.
>
A forest bendith tries to drag herself away but collapses in agony!
>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>l
[Gyldemar Forest, Cobbled Path - 4735]
The sound of flowing water is strong, echoing eerily against the silent oaks. A sense of timelessness pervades the shadow-enclosed forest, seeming to shield it from change and outside influence. A cool breeze rustles the leaf-laden branches, sending a tingle across exposed flesh. You also see the Wolfloner disk and a forest bendith that is lying down.
Obvious paths: south, northwest
HR>.p
[Script p is running, Esc to cancel, Shift-Esc to pause]
* Towers joins the adventure.
H>aim head
>stance offensive
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
H>target
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>punch
Usage: TARGET {player|creature}
TARGET RANDOM
TARGET CLEAR

You are currently targeting a forest bendith.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a forest bendith!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>
A forest bendith tries to drag herself away but collapses in agony!
R>stance defensive
>hide
[script done]
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
A forest bendith sniffs the air for something nearby..
H>
Seemingly from nowhere, a wood sprite wanders in!
H>
A wood sprite sniffs the air for something nearby..
H>
Hushed whispers pass between the oaks, as if the woods themselves were witholding some terrible secret.
H>

Wolfloner

Just failed an attack against a grizzled cerebralite (which should only be 5-10 levels over me). This time I was holding my bow. Open aimed, not from hiding. 2x ambush, 2x CM.

You make a precise attempt to punch a grizzled glistening cerebralite!
You fail to find an opening for your strike.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

Droit

---

Speaking to you, Ceyrin asks, "Do you spontaneously come back to life when you die?"
Speaking to you, Ceyrin says, "Because I do."
You say, "Yes. I have a condition called Annoraxia.""