This can go along with my other post in the ranger spell forum (which probably would have gone better here).

Random idea based on an old idea that's been floating around for a while:

What about an ARMOR skill that allows rangers to cast spells from hiding (which becomes more effective in lighter armors).

We'd also need a viable way to stay hidden (with other skills, or whatever) to make that sort of defense a viable one, though. Even with 2x S&H, a bunch of Blessing lore and extra ranger ranks, I'm still found fairly easily by a lot of things. If we are to make hiding a defense, we should be able to train so that it's reasonably effective.

~Brian, Sepher's player

> However, I have to question what is finding you so easily. With 2x S&H, 60 blessing lore and 50 ranger ranks I have no problems staying hidden. The exceptions are things like griffins or grimswarm guards.

Unfortunately, creature perception in GS is seemingly black and white. Creatures either have no chance of finding you, or find you most/all of the time. Almost never do I feel like I'm in the margin for remaining hidden.

I don't play a rogue who uses hiding as a primary defense, so I can't speak from experience how viable the extra training they can do is, but as I have read on the forums, it seems to be more reasonably viable for them than for us.

What I'm truly interested in, whether it's done through stealth abilities like rogue's have or some other way, is getting rangers a reason to wear lighter armor. Perhaps incentives can be placed on our spells to work more effectively with lighter armor.

~Brian, Sepher's player

>I should add that while I'm saying hidden I'm in brig.

They never to my knowledge implemented Warden's ideas about making it harder to hide/remain hidden in heavier armor.

Instead, they incentivized rogue's with new abilities to make light armor more attractive. Rangers, unfortunately, weren't included in any of these improvements.

~Brian, Sepher's player

>>What I'm truly interested in, whether it's done through stealth abilities like rogue's have or some other way, is getting rangers a reason to wear lighter armor. Perhaps incentives can be placed on our spells to work more effectively with lighter armor.


I know the OP was shooting for something that the ranger wouldn't need to rely on anyone else, there is the option of getting the 4 hour armor buff from a rogue. I don't know the statistics of how many rogues go for evasion or stealth or even how many capped rogues are able to offer you the full rank 5 version (140 ranks for rank 4, and a full 200 for rank 5).