310 Group Duration Problem 05/10/2013 12:46 PM CDT
Anyone notice that Warding Sphere (310)'s group duration is dropping early, even when the cleric remains in the group? Since yesterday, it's only been lasting my group members about a minute before they lose the spell.

I managed to check with another cleric, and they weren't having the same problem so I'm really unsure of why this suddenly started happening.



Kaedra grabs your hand.
>
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Kaedra gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Kaedra and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Warding Sphere ..................... 0:00:27

>
You suddenly feel less protected.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
No spells found.

>group
Kaedra is the leader of your group.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/10/2013 02:54 PM CDT
I did a little bit of checking with 310 as well. It didn't wear off early, and I haven't noticed mine ever wearing off early (or 307) but it seems Spell Active doesn't quite know how to track it correctly. Maybe that's part of the problem, or at least something to be looked into.

Cleric gently takes hold of your hand.
J>
Cleric raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Cleric gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Cleric and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.

J>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:

310 ................................ 0:00:40


J>time
Today is Day of the Huntress, day 10 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 15:47 by the elven time standard. It is currently late afternoon.

J>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:

310 ................................ 0:00:17

J>time
Today is Day of the Huntress, day 10 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 15:49 by the elven time standard. It is currently late afternoon.

J>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:

310 ................................ 0:00:23

J>time
Today is Day of the Huntress, day 10 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 15:51 by the elven time standard. It is currently late afternoon.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/10/2013 05:45 PM CDT
I did a little bit of checking with 310 as well. It didn't wear off early, and I haven't noticed mine ever wearing off early (or 307) but it seems Spell Active doesn't quite know how to track it correctly. Maybe that's part of the problem, or at least something to be looked into.

Cleric gently takes hold of your hand.
J>
Cleric raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Cleric gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Cleric and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.

J>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:

310 ................................ 0:00:40


J>time
Today is Day of the Huntress, day 10 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 15:47 by the elven time standard. It is currently late afternoon.

J>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:

310 ................................ 0:00:17

J>time
Today is Day of the Huntress, day 10 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 15:49 by the elven time standard. It is currently late afternoon.

J>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:

310 ................................ 0:00:23

J>time
Today is Day of the Huntress, day 10 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 15:51 by the elven time standard. It is currently late afternoon.




It looks like spell active is tracking the group renewal time check, not the spell duration. That check may be auto-failing for group members for some reason.

Dgry
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/11/2013 12:57 AM CDT
She noticed it while hunting with me. It wasn't just spell active not tracking it properly it dropped earlier after about a minute of her casting it and we were all still grouped at the time with her leading nothing separated us.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 12:50 PM CDT
The issue is back, except now it seems to be affecting Benediction as well as Warding Sphere.



Kaedra grabs your hand.
>
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
>
Kaedra gestures at you.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle you and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.
>
[ Warding Sphere: +3:09:00, 3:08:59 remaining. ]
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
>
Kaedra gestures at you.
A pearlescent emanation extends outward to encompass you and those nearby.

Your spirit is bolstered by a great sense of faith and conviction.
>
[ Benediction: +3:09:00, 3:08:59 remaining. ]
time
Today is Leyan, day 29 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 13:47 by the elven time standard. It is currently afternoon.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Benediction ........................ 0:00:39
Warding Sphere ..................... 0:00:35

>
You suddenly feel less protected.
>
Your sense of faith and conviction wanes. You are less sure of yourself.
>time
Today is Leyan, day 29 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 13:47 by the elven time standard. It is currently afternoon.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
No spells found.

>group
Kaedra is the leader of your group.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 01:01 PM CDT
>Kaedra gestures at you.
>Kaedra is the leader of your group.

She should be casting on herself, not you.



-farmer

>He's right on all counts. ~Vanah
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 01:33 PM CDT
<<She should be casting on herself, not you. -farmer

Doesn't make a difference, there's definitely a problem that needs addressed.

Thanks


Kaedra grabs your hand.
>
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Kaedra gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Kaedra and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.
>
[ Warding Sphere: +3:09:00, 3:08:59 remaining. ]
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Kaedra gestures.
A pearlescent emanation extends outward to encompass Kaedra and those nearby.

Your spirit is bolstered by a great sense of faith and conviction.
>
[ Benediction: +3:09:00, 3:08:59 remaining. ]
time
Today is Leyan, day 29 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 14:30 by the elven time standard. It is currently afternoon.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Benediction ........................ 0:00:34
Warding Sphere ..................... 0:00:31

You suddenly feel less protected.
>
Your sense of faith and conviction wanes. You are less sure of yourself.
>time
Today is Leyan, day 29 of the month Ivastaen in the year 5113. It is 14:30 by the elven time standard. It is currently afternoon.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
No spells found.

>group
Kaedra is the leader of your group.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 01:56 PM CDT
Just tested 307 off a scroll.

Duration is working properly for me when I cast it as the group leader.



-farmer
>He's right on all counts. ~Vanah
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 02:10 PM CDT
<<Duration is working properly for me when I cast it as the group leader. -farmer

When I reported the issue earlier this month, I checked with other clerics and they weren't experiencing the same problem. So, I am not sure if this is unique to my cleric or why it happens.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 03:17 PM CDT


My cleric cast both of those spells for four on himself. and they always seem to drop after about an hour and a half. havent played him lately, so couldnt tell you if it was fixed or not
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 03:30 PM CDT
307 and 310 need to be cast on the group's leader, and the cleric must remain part of that group. This has always been the case as long as I've used the spells as a player.

-Marstreforn-
Icemule Trace Guru
Halfling Guru
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 03:39 PM CDT
I've experienced the same issue too, Kaedra, but only with 307 so far and it appears to happen randomly. I will watch out for it again and post.

>>You slay me woman! ~ Wyrom

~*~ She conquers, who endures ~*~
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/29/2013 04:58 PM CDT
<<307 and 310 need to be cast on the group's leader, and the cleric must remain part of that group. This has always been the case as long as I've used the spells as a player. -Marstreforn

I've never had an issue in the past casting 310/307 at another group member and having it drop early, but this is a moot point since both spells are dropping even when cast on myself as the leader of the group as I mentioned a few posts back.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 06/02/2013 06:57 PM CDT
I posted about the 307 issue a while back. 307 doesn't seem to be stacking. My cleric has something like 87 ranks in the Cleric circle and 307 falls after 107 minutes, even if SPELL ACTIVE shows she still has >2 hours on the duration.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 07/09/2013 11:33 PM CDT
I am having the same issue again, if someone could please take another look at the problem. The duration with Warding Sphere and Benediction are both dropping early on members of my group as shown in the log from this post: http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Clerics/Cleric%20Spells/view/734

Not sure why this keeps popping up. Thanks
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 07/29/2013 12:17 AM CDT
I'm experiencing this too and I think I know what the problem is...

The leader of the group cast 307 and 310 from a scroll, which I believe might make it superior than my version because their scroll reading is stronger than my spells. I then follow up and cast 307 and 310 on the group and it fades from everyone but the leader and myself.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 07/29/2013 12:52 AM CDT
Another note...

Went back out with that person and they still had their original 307 and 310 going. Cast it on them, and again it fell from everyone but them and I.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 09/11/2013 10:56 AM CDT
The issue is back again, if someone could please take a look at the problem that would be greatly appreciated.



>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Manna .............................. 0:15:41

>
Kaedra grabs your hand.
>time
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Imaerasta in the year 5113. It is 11:50 by the elven time standard. It is currently mid morning.
>
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Kaedra gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Kaedra and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.
>
Kaedra raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Kaedra gestures.
A pearlescent emanation extends outward to encompass Kaedra and those nearby.

Your spirit is bolstered by a great sense of faith and conviction.
>
spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Manna .............................. 0:15:04
Benediction ........................ 0:00:42
Warding Sphere ..................... 0:00:39

>You feel more refreshed.
>
You suddenly feel less protected.
>
Your sense of faith and conviction wanes. You are less sure of yourself.
>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Manna .............................. 0:14:18

>time
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Imaerasta in the year 5113. It is 11:51 by the elven time standard. It is currently mid morning.
>group
Kaedra is the leader of your group.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 09/23/2013 04:19 PM CDT
I'm looking into this bug, but could use some more information. Did any of the group members who the spells are fading from early already have an active version of it cast on them before the most recent cast? Or is anyone able to reproduce this with any certainty?

GameMaster Estild
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 09/30/2013 03:31 PM CDT
<<I'm looking into this bug, but could use some more information. Did any of the group members who the spells are fading from early already have an active version of it cast on them before the most recent cast? Or is anyone able to reproduce this with any certainty? --GameMaster Estild

I reviewed my logs and believe the error is reproduced when a cleric with lower cleric spell ranks casts 310/307 over a cleric that already has 310/307 up, and then recasts 310/307. As I was testing this error, I ended up breaking my cleric again and would appreciate it if someone could repair her please.

While we're on the topic, could we address having clerics overriding each other's group spells? Its just frustrating when another cleric casts 310/307 and then it causes me to lose my 310/307 once I leave the group. I'd rather see it work like 211/215/219 group version where it says "You already have a brilliant aura around you", etc.
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 10/01/2013 11:50 PM CDT
This issue should now be resolved. In addition, I've updated both spells so that another Cleric cannot cast either spell on another player's group if they already have the spell active. This will prevent another Cleric from overwriting your own spells (which would be extremely annoying if you had stacked a large duration) and it will prevent you from having to recast the spell for your group due to some random other Cleric.

GameMaster Estild
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 10/02/2013 03:02 AM CDT
<<This issue should now be resolved. In addition, I've updated both spells so that another Cleric cannot cast either spell on another player's group if they already have the spell active. This will prevent another Cleric from overwriting your own spells (which would be extremely annoying if you had stacked a large duration) and it will prevent you from having to recast the spell for your group due to some random other Cleric. --GameMaster Estild

Awesome update, thanks!
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 10/02/2013 08:47 AM CDT
I can't think of the last time I had Krakii outside of town, but thanks for the update anyhow. :)
Reply
Re: 310 Group Duration Problem 05/07/2015 01:05 PM CDT
<<This issue should now be resolved. In addition, I've updated both spells so that another Cleric cannot cast either spell on another player's group if they already have the spell active. This will prevent another Cleric from overwriting your own spells (which would be extremely annoying if you had stacked a large duration) and it will prevent you from having to recast the spell for your group due to some random other Cleric. --GameMaster Estild

Sorry, but this bug seems to have returned. Can you take another look Estild?



>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Spirit Warding I ................... 2:16:45
Spirit Barrier ..................... 3:03:52
Spirit Defense ..................... 3:26:54
Disease Resistance ................. 3:38:50
Poison Resistance .................. 3:06:03
Spirit Warding II .................. 2:17:05
Water Walking ...................... 3:12:22
Fasthr's Reward .................... 3:37:13
Lesser Shroud ...................... 2:45:01
Spirit Shield ...................... 2:58:20
Unpresence ......................... 2:58:24
Purify Air ......................... 2:58:27
Untrammel .......................... 2:58:30
Bravery ............................ 2:45:34
Heroism ............................ 2:42:12
Spirit Servant ..................... 0:03:44
Spell Shield ....................... 2:58:42
Prayer of Protection ............... 2:43:45
Benediction ........................ 4:09:58
Warding Sphere ..................... 4:09:54
Prayer ............................. 0:34:22
Relieve Burden ..................... 2:24:08
Soul Ward .......................... 2:44:00
Champion's Might ................... 3:14:14


You join Cleric.

Cleric raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Cleric gestures.
A sphere of pure white light appears above you.
A wispy tendril of pure magic reaches out to encircle Cleric and those nearby.

You feel more secure basking in the glow of divine protection.

Cleric raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
Cleric gestures.
A pearlescent emanation extends outward to encompass Cleric and those nearby.

Your spirit is bolstered by a great sense of faith and conviction.

>ne
[Duskruin Arena, Southern Arc]
Obvious exits: north, southwest
Your aurora spirit followed.

>spell active

You currently have the following active spells:
Spirit Warding I ................... 2:15:11
Spirit Barrier ..................... 3:02:18
Spirit Defense ..................... 3:25:20
Disease Resistance ................. 3:37:16
Poison Resistance .................. 3:04:29
Spirit Warding II .................. 2:15:31
Water Walking ...................... 3:10:48
Fasthr's Reward .................... 3:35:39
Lesser Shroud ...................... 2:43:27
Spirit Shield ...................... 2:56:46
Unpresence ......................... 2:56:50
Purify Air ......................... 2:56:53
Untrammel .......................... 2:56:56
Bravery ............................ 2:44:00
Heroism ............................ 2:40:38
Spirit Servant ..................... 0:02:10
Spell Shield ....................... 2:57:08
Prayer of Protection ............... 2:42:11
Benediction ........................ 0:00:09
Warding Sphere ..................... 0:00:05
Prayer ............................. 0:32:48
Relieve Burden ..................... 2:22:34
Soul Ward .......................... 2:42:26
Champion's Might ................... 3:12:40

You suddenly feel less protected.

Your sense of faith and conviction wanes. You are less sure of yourself.
Reply