Does using spell 102 have an adverse effect on UAC attacks, similar to that which it has on weapon use? If so, how large an effect occurs?
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RATHBONER
Re: UAC and airwall
07/19/2014 02:38 PM CDT
Yes.
You lose the same from UAF that you would from AS.
It can quite easily be a good trade at sufficient level, because UAF effects are scaled against UDF and consequently become trivial at high level.
If I was using scrolls and items to spell up for bandits, which I didn't take on before 40, I'd always put up 102 and save myself a charge on one of the items, but if I'd got enough outside spells I'd leave it off and maybe put it up later if a crystal strips the wrong spells.
You lose the same from UAF that you would from AS.
It can quite easily be a good trade at sufficient level, because UAF effects are scaled against UDF and consequently become trivial at high level.
If I was using scrolls and items to spell up for bandits, which I didn't take on before 40, I'd always put up 102 and save myself a charge on one of the items, but if I'd got enough outside spells I'd leave it off and maybe put it up later if a crystal strips the wrong spells.
THROGG
Re: UAC and airwall
07/20/2014 02:53 PM CDT
>>It can quite easily be a good trade at sufficient level, because UAF effects are scaled against UDF and consequently become trivial at high level. <<
At approximately what point would you say this occurs? I suspect I am somewhere around there, since I sometimes stance down to advanced just to get a better DS, and my UAC is still pretty effective. Level 50 rogue, 2x in brawling and ambush, 2.5x in hiding.
Oh, another question, which I forgot to ask earlier. CMan ranks add to weapon AS on a 2:1 basis; does training in this skill also benefit UAC? That's more a question out of curiosity, since I plan to get additional CMan training anyway, but it would be nice to know. And what about skills like punch mastery; does this add to the attack's effectiveness from ambush, or just from the open?
At approximately what point would you say this occurs? I suspect I am somewhere around there, since I sometimes stance down to advanced just to get a better DS, and my UAC is still pretty effective. Level 50 rogue, 2x in brawling and ambush, 2.5x in hiding.
Oh, another question, which I forgot to ask earlier. CMan ranks add to weapon AS on a 2:1 basis; does training in this skill also benefit UAC? That's more a question out of curiosity, since I plan to get additional CMan training anyway, but it would be nice to know. And what about skills like punch mastery; does this add to the attack's effectiveness from ambush, or just from the open?
RATHBONER
Re: UAC and airwall
07/20/2014 08:14 PM CDT
>At approximately what point would you say this occurs? I suspect I am somewhere around there, since I sometimes stance down to advanced just to get a better DS, and my UAC is still pretty effective. Level 50 rogue, 2x in brawling and ambush, 2.5x in hiding.
I was using it from time to time from the 20s. I'd be surprised if it wasn't normally a better trade for you than stancing down.
>CMan ranks add to weapon AS on a 2:1 basis; does training in this skill also benefit UAC?
It adds to UAF in the same way. Its a much less important effect than the AS one is for a swinger though. Get it if you want the manoevers and only if you want the manoevers.
>And what about skills like punch mastery; does this add to the attack's effectiveness from ambush, or just from the open?
All punch attacks. It will be less important for an ambusher but I suspect you should have lots of it anyway. Open UAC you should grab each rank of your prime mastery, which is probably punch, the moment you can learn it.
I was using it from time to time from the 20s. I'd be surprised if it wasn't normally a better trade for you than stancing down.
>CMan ranks add to weapon AS on a 2:1 basis; does training in this skill also benefit UAC?
It adds to UAF in the same way. Its a much less important effect than the AS one is for a swinger though. Get it if you want the manoevers and only if you want the manoevers.
>And what about skills like punch mastery; does this add to the attack's effectiveness from ambush, or just from the open?
All punch attacks. It will be less important for an ambusher but I suspect you should have lots of it anyway. Open UAC you should grab each rank of your prime mastery, which is probably punch, the moment you can learn it.
