Does this apply to the premium monthly contest list as well?

Wyrom says, "Ordim is the reason savants won't be coded as well."

With Premium, you can get them as high as +2/4x (mana, acuity).

Like with padding, the Premium service takes it TO a specific level (10 points, 150 services) rather than ADDING that much (lime if you already had somewhat, or decent).

Bazically, you gain less if you have the work done on an item that already has it (versus a blank slate), but you LOSE nothing (both wind upbat the same spot,+2/4x/heavy padding).
Smaller delta, same end result... like winning the Iasha raffle: start w/tier1, she adds 2 tiers; w/tier2, adds only 1 tier; don't have an Iasha one gets created and it is tier3... but in all cases, the end result is a tier3.

Yup, you'll be going to mana (2) or acuity (4x [+20/+12]) from whatever level they might be at currently. Those are as high as premium points can go on mana and acuity.

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ASGM

<the costs for enchanting seems to be much higher than necessary.

We'll look into it, but a majority of the cost is based around the high mechanical advantage (2500 points of weighting). The charge for that amount of weighting is 4000 points, regardless of the enchant.

~~GM Kynlee~~
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<Does this apply to the premium monthly contest list as well?

I'm checking on this.

~~GM Kynlee~~
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Breaker of Things
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<the costs for enchanting seems to be much higher than necessary.

We'll look into it, but a majority of the cost is based around the high mechanical advantage (2500 points of weighting). The charge for that amount of weighting is 4000 points, regardless of the enchant.

~~GM Kynlee~~

I understand how all the numbers add up. My main point is that the cost far exceeds the value. I'd be curious to know if anyone has ever enchanted a 0x or 1x claidhmore using premium points. If they have not, maybe it would be a good idea to revisit the cost so people find better value in that offering.


I'd much prefer to see a structured cost increase rather than 40 points of weighting always means a 4000 premium point cost increase, at least when it comes to claids, as they're handled separately in most other cases anyway. (For example, the no enchanting/weighting/extra work on claid exclusions that pop up at every merchant offering.)

It currently takes 5000 points to enchant a claidhmore from 0x to 1x. That roughly equates to 50 million silvers to enchant a claidhmore from 0x to 1x. For 50 million silvers I could purchase 50 1x claidhmores.



The reason for my request is that I have a 0x claid that I want to enchant to 1x, so that it can hit magical creatures and I don't have to be worried about it shattering on some creatures because it's plain 0x. I'm willing to pay a higher cost than what it would be valued at, but not 50x more than its value. It currently sits in a locker until I get the opportunity to enchant it.


Something to think about ... If a 1x claidhmore would be sold at Duskruin, how much would it cost? Assign X value to premium points, and then convert the duskruin cost to a premium point cost.


How about something like this?
(Base enchant cost x Desired Enchant Bonus) / (Completed X Enchant)
(300 x 5) / (1) = 1500
(600 x 10) / (2) = 3000
(900 x 15) / (3) = 4500
(1200 x 20) / (4) = 6000
(1600 x 25) / (5) = 8000
(2000 x 30) / (6) = 10000
(2400 x 35) / (7) = 12000
(2800 x 40) / (8) = 14000
(3200 x 45) / (9) = 16000
(3600 x 50) / (10) = 18000

This would make a 1x enchant a little more obtainable. And it's not like 1x claids are rare. Even 4x claidhmores are far more common now than they ever have been.

Just because you seem to think the primary desirability of a claidhmore is its weighting, doesn't mean everyone else does. For me, the appearance of the claidhmore is its primary desirability.

If I could just give any claidhmore the appearance of my claidhmore, I obviously wouldn't be making the request I did.

Enchanting a 0x claidhmore to 1x in order to make it hit magical creatures and become shatter proof against other creatures seems like a pretty good reason to enchant it to me.



I'll also correct another one of your points. It's now best to pad or weight something at a low enchant, and then work on enchanting it up, as W/P/S costs increase the higher enchant the item is.

"I'll also correct another one of your points. It's now best to pad or weight something at a low enchant, and then work on enchanting it up, as W/P/S costs increase the higher enchant the item is." -- Veythorne

Now, sure. :) That's what happens, when new systems happen.

How desirable any given path is will largely depend on how frequent the GMs cut it loose--does it happen only at events? Only paid events? There's a shop in every town all the time? We'll have to see...--and whether one is Premium or has their own Enchanter or what.

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No, I stand by my statement: the value of the claidhmore is in the weighting. The only reason you want to Enchant a plain one, is to have all that nice juicy weighting (and now be able to hit with it all of those magical creatures/not shatter against those others/and so on). That's what you're chasing: the weighting.

You tell me what was easier: plonk down a million coins, buy a cheap mithril claidhmore, and find a GALD merchant... or cough up a ton of Bloodscrip for getting an Enchanting certificate for the weighted weapon... or buy in to Premium for multiple years to build up the points to do it?

Now? Sure, absolutely: player-Enchanting is now possible on Weighted items. Great!
Has anyone actually done it with a claidhmore, yet? (Were claidhmores exempted?)

>>I don't care about "that nice juicy weighting"

Probably fairly easy to get it stripped, then - in that context if it's truly adding zero value and still costing a ton.

Doug

<Does this apply to the premium monthly contest list as well?

Yes!

~~GM Kynlee~~
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