I would like to see a spell added to the Arcane Circle that would raise one's TD, but lower your CS. Sort of like a magical Spiritual Barrier spell. The spell would obviously favor squares and swinging semi's, but I imagine even pures would use it in a pinch if they needed a big TD boost.

I think something along the lines of +20TD and -10 - -20 CS would be appropriate. Call it Null Magic.

Thoughts?

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Evarin and his Mis'ri

I'd prefer the name 'Dampen Magic' or something along those lines. Null is so absolute.

-Keleborrn.

This spell should be made.

I have spoken.

~Eugenides, The Last

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You monotonously drone, "Bwaaaaaaaaaah."

Aydan monotonously drones, "Bwaaaaaaaah."

A barn owl says, "Bwaaaaaaaaah."

From nearby, you hear Bristenn yell, "Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

How about +20 TD -20 bolt DS?

That seems like a fair trade, and bolt DS effects everyone equally.

Personally, I'd love another +TD spell from the arcane circle. I'd find it very useful in the Rift, where I'm constantly running Dissipation, and I still get warded from time-to-time (especially by elemental spells as a cleric).

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"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power" - William Shakespeare

>Furthermore, the inevitable affect of this change would be to change critter CS to compensate. - Tsoran

No, not really.

I fully understand the argument of "ANY AS/DS/CS/TD IMPROVEMENT WILL BE INSTANTLY NEGATED BY CRITTER TWEAKS!" But there are very obvious caveats. Was critter TD raised when quartz orbs were released? No. Will critter TD be raised with 340 comes out? How about when 240 came out? No.

Why? Because these boosts aren't sustainable. Either by rarity of the spell, the costs involved, or other outside factors, changes to profession AS/DS/CS/TD can be made without just slapping the old "Can't! We'd have to change critters!" argument down on the table and calling it a day.

If this spell were to be released, it would likely be a high level arcane spell which would rarely gen on scrolls and magical objects. On scrolls, squares would need a high amount of Arcane Symbols to activate. It would still be possible, but only in short supply. I would put it at 1730+ so it cannot be infused by Sorcerers.

Magical items would be able to be activated by any warrior/rogue, etc without MIU training, much like Small statues. The item, like 1750, would not be rechargeable via Charge Item and would be rare. Not as rare as monocles, but up there.

Finally, the duration would be short. 5-10 minutes or so. Basically, 1 hunt. Flat, non-refreshable or stackable.

Balance is thus achieved.

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Evarin and his Mis'ri

<<What's the penalty that quartz orb users get?

Encumbrance, but only if you're carrying around quite a few of them. At 10 pounds a piece they really add up and can hit your DS hard once you start getting encumbered by adding boxes from the hunt on top of carrying a couple orbs.


-Adam

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"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous

>>Doesn't affect people who don't cast bolts.<<

Uh... what?

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"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power" - William Shakespeare

>Encumbrance, but only if you're carrying around quite a few of them. At 10 pounds a piece they really add up and can hit your DS hard once you start getting encumbered by adding boxes from the hunt on top of carrying a couple orbs.
-Adam

Disks, phase, spirit servant. Plus there's those fun off the shelf (ring I think) embeds of the spell that are wearable.


-farmer

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That's just what we want, criss-crossing furrows all over the town streets from someone wandering through with their animated plow super buddy.

-Strath

The idea at it's core is to put a spell in the arcane circle which will be fairly rare, not chargeable or infusible, and has a trade off which is fairly negligible to squares, somewhat impactful to semis and painful to pures.

CS is the first thing that comes to mind. Bolt AS would work too, as magic is supposed to be dampened. But that would also mean incoming bolt spells should be penalized. It would be neat if the spell could negate a portion of magically Gained DS as a trade off. The more spells you're wearing, the more of a magical DS hit you take.

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Evarin and his Mis'ri

><<What's the penalty that quartz orb users get?

>Encumbrance, but only if you're carrying around quite a few of them.

Not an issue now that all quartz orbs are mage rechargeable.

Droit

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The ghostly voice of Kaedra says, "That was an insane rescue."

... I was beginning to think I was the crazy one, and I missed some massive change to the game where bolt DS only applied to bolters. Glad I'm not crazy.

On topic, I'm with Keleborrn on this one. I don't want to see it be 1750 rare.

I think somewhere in the 1714, 1716, 1717, or 1719 slot seems appropriate.

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"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power" - William Shakespeare

your idea rimalon, is fine, except theres no hinderance for bolt casters if it takes away from CS or CMAN, but not bolt AS, if you wanted a level playing field

Not everything I post is a joke!

I forgot about Bolt AS, but it's whatever whatever.

102 doesn't affect Bolt AS, and is essentially free DS for a bolter profession, so the precedent has already been set.

If the proposed arcane spell would require -10 Bolt AS in addition to -10 CS and -10 CMAN resolution, as I said, whatevs. Make it so.

-Sea Wizard

You reach into the cauldron and take out a silvery monogram rocket.
The cauldron raises up two of its legs and clasps them in victory.

With that logic Quartz orbs and Small Statues whould be done away with immediately. Those Solid Moonstone Cubes also offer absolutely no drawbacks, so they too must meet with the axe.

This is the ARCANE circle. Not a player cast circle. Items here are finite. Short of Charge Item/Scroll Infusion, which can be blocked if the item is deemed too powerful, balance is achieved by scarcity of availability.