ranks for 1720 06/22/2014 06:16 AM CDT
Is it supposed to require 24 ranks which is the amount of AS I had to train before it ceased to be unreadable on a scroll?
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/06/2015 10:30 AM CST

bump

Is the AS requirement or 24 ranks for level 20 spells a bug or WAD?
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/06/2015 02:45 PM CST
RATHBONER
Is it supposed to require 24 ranks which is the amount of AS I had to train before it ceased to be unreadable on a scroll?
Is the AS requirement or 24 ranks for level 20 spells a bug or WAD?


It's not clear to me what you're asking, since it appears you answered your own question. Or what makes you think it would be a bug?

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Re: ranks for 1720 01/06/2015 03:01 PM CST
I think he means you usually need to have the number of ranks of the spell number to be able to read it - so the spell should be readable at 20 ranks.

For example, how you need 50 ranks of AS to read 1750.

24 ranks is just for skill bonus optimization/better chance of rolling.
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/06/2015 03:44 PM CST


My vague recollection is that to read, as opposed to invoke, a scroll you need AS skill equal to five times the level of the spell. So for the first 10 spell levels, you need one AS rank per level. But after that, you have to take the 5/4/3/2/1 diminishing returns into account. A level 20 scroll would require 100 skill in AS, which is 24 ranks.
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/06/2015 03:49 PM CST
ROBLAR
I think he means you usually need to have the number of ranks of the spell number to be able to read it - so the spell should be readable at 20 ranks.
For example, how you need 50 ranks of AS to read 1750.


That is incorrect. The Arcane Symbols rank vs. spell level assumption to read a scroll only works up to spell level 10. You cannot read a level 11 spell from a scroll with 11 Arcane Symbol ranks, it requires 12 ranks. It requires 70 Arcane Symbol ranks to read Fash'lo'nae's Gift (1750). The formula is: if the spell level is 20 or less, it requires Arcane Symbols skill of (spell level * 5) to read. If the spell level is 21 - 40, it requires Arcane Symbols skill of (100 + ((spell level - 20) * 3). If the spell level is greater than 40, it Arcane Symbols skill of (160 + (spell level - 40)).

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Re: ranks for 1720 01/06/2015 07:28 PM CST
Ah, sorry my bad. I never did test it just thought I heard it somewhere.

I'll stay out of magic discussions! :p
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/07/2015 08:57 AM CST
Roblar had it right. My assumption was that ranks in MIU/AS worked like levels did for spell training.
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/07/2015 09:32 AM CST
This post seems like something that should be on a wiki. What's that, there's a wiki that anyone can edit? BOOM.
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Re: ranks for 1720 01/07/2015 09:40 AM CST
Is this right?

Spell LevelAS Ranks
11
22
33
44
55
66
77
88
99
1010
1112
1213
1314
1415
1517
1618
1719
1821
1922
2024
2529
3035
3545
4060
5070

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