What sort of skills would you want to see out of trading? No need to go into the mechanics of how you'd learn skill. Just curious what benefits you'd want to gain.

Languages are a tough subject, and I know it's a desired ability.

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Wyrom, PM

I agree there should be some way to learn another Language. There should likely be some sort of cap, I suppose, as to the amount of languages you can learn perhaps? But whether this cap should be raised by skill or not is an interesting conundrum.

It's hard to picture it fitting in as an Artisan Skill - what repetitive tasks could be done to learn ranks? Besides, I'd be rather sad that my Master Forger couldn't expand his knowledge in another language due to having maxed his Artisan Skills at the moment.

I suppose it could work as a Specialization of some sort rather like the Armor/Cman/Shield skills - though this would likely tie it in with a skill to get points from, though then it returns to whether Trading skill is a good fit.

That and the decision whether the knowledge of a language should be all or nothing - IE you train in the language, you automatically can understand/speak it perfectly. Or would there be 'ranks' in which the earlier ranks you can only understand a word here and there and speak in 'broken' <language> until you've gotten all the ranks.

Either way the implementation would likely take some work to integrate.

Ooh. Being put on the spot, but just off the top of my head, here are a few ideas:

-Unlock a few new verbs that would fit RP well when doing business or just making personal connections. These could be verbs like "Character 1 approaches character 2 with a smile, perhaps looking to start up some small talk."

-Get traders' licenses in city town halls that allow you to post business-related listings on a community bulletin board in the town's main supernode. The notices would expire and could be on an X per day or X per week cooldown... for example, tonight is guild night and I'd love to be able to post up that I'm buying certain alchemy reagents.

-Like how urchins can run and pick up items from your locker, you could hire an assistant who can go buy things for you, sell things for you, or get your boxes picked. That would be a neat tool so I don't have to interrupt my conversations in TSC, TC, etc. just to sell off junk. The assistants could even be RP tools in and of themselves if we had some options for what they look like and their demeanor, etc.

-This isn't exactly a skill idea, but a Trading category or at least an Other category in the Services list would be nice. I used to list myself as a trade specialist under Profession for lack of a better place (and yes, people really did come to me to sell their gem pouches and make an extra 20-40k real quick and split the difference), but I took that down as soon as I was able to make full chrisms and there's not really a place for it.





>Tying language to trading makes zero sense.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I'd make Trading skill the only way to learn a new language in case that's what you got out of my post. Actually, my main goal wasn't about new languages at all, but more to give a new perk for training Trading (which I think Wyrom picked up on) since right now that has to be the most strangely narrow skill in the game. It always seems that only crazy people like me bother to touch it before cap.



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Touché! Picking pockets might at least have more RP potential, though, since people can catch you or you can get arrested.


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I'd like the classes of objects that can be appraised to be extended and a way to use appraisal in shops rather than needing to step outside e.g. to check the quality of a skin.

For an ability i been begging for long before simucoin or the current pay event fad i will be very disappointed if it comes about through one of those avenues. This should be done through skills or some other training.

>I still really like the idea of trading skill raising the maximum that the pawnshop, etc will pay for items. ~BRANDTJRT

I like this idea very much as well. Each rank adding another 1k to the cap. So a max-trained character (202 ranks is top, IIRC?) could pawn an item of 237k instead of just 35k.

Wyrom, is that too unbalancing economy-wise? Heck, even 500 silvers would be better than nothing.

The game already has a dire lack of silver sinks. Unless they added some way to remove an equal amount of silver (and provide a VALUE to that silver loss) I don't think increasing the pawnshop limit would do anything but cause even more inflation with the market.

<The game already has a dire lack of silver sinks. Unless they added some way to remove an equal amount of silver (and provide a VALUE to that silver loss) I don't think increasing the pawnshop limit would do anything but cause even more inflation with the market.>

Have the banks offer to insure deposits for 1000 silver per million per month. Characters with less then a million silvers total (across all banks) get the insurance for free. Those with more then a million must actively pay for the insurance to receive it but can buy coverage for all towns from whatever town they happen to be in and can pay for several months in advance.

Then have a quest where those that train in the Pickpocketing skill can rob the bank (preferably with a minimum of 3-4 characters needed to do the quest). Insured accounts are unaffected by the robbery but the silvers stolen are spread out among all uninsured characters. So if the robbers got away with 100,000 silvers and there were 100 uninsured accounts, 1,000 silvers would be deducted from each (numbers used are completely arbitrary and chosen for the easy math).

Lastly, implement the proposal for the Trading skill that increases the max you can get for selling expensive items to the pawn and gem shops. This way those that need/want hundreds of millions in the bank have a way to more easily recoup the cost or insurance.

You make two skills more attractive and get the needed silver sink to make the trading proposal possible without just causing inflation.

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