Is there something buggy about Executioner's Stance or am I just really unlucky and it hasn't triggered for me yet?
I've invested in 1 rank in the stance, that should be a 20% chance for a killing blow on one creature with a THW to continue the attack on a second creature in the room at a -25 AS loss.
I have yet to see this trigger over the past 2 days of using it.
My warrior hunts with a quarterstaff and last I checked it is classified as a THW. He's been actively hunting bandits the past couple days and they usually spawn 2 or 3 in group, but sometimes 1 or 4.
As long as there are at least 2+ in a group, I start with an unfocused mstrike and most of the time they all get stunned or I'm give a chance to use OVERPOWER. The mstrike sometimes kills one of the bandits, but that's only about 10% of the time. I'm usually left simply attacking the bandits until the die.
When I'm left with 2-4 bandits and I kill one with a basic attack, I still have yet to see Executioner's Stance trigger. I've gone through about 200 bandits as of yesterday and today. Every single strike that shows up on my screen always has my full AS of 279. If Executioner's Stance were to trigger, my AS should only be 254 for that attack and I figure I should see some kind of messaging that it triggered.
On a side note, does Executioner's Stance have a chance to trigger if you kill a creature using OVERPOWER or REVERSE STRIKE? Sometimes I do get kills using those skills.
BBRODRIGUEZ
BBRODRIGUEZ
BBRODRIGUEZ
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/21/2021 10:16 PM CST
Still wondering if this CMAN stance is bugged. I keep killing things with my THW wielding - quarterstaff - warrior and have yet to see it trigger.
I can see how having 1 rank in the skill and only having a 20% chance for it to trigger....but after 500+ critter and bandit kills with multiple creatures in the room and not once seeing it trigger, it leaves me to think something is very wrong or my guy just sucks at getting the RNG to hit that 20% chance.
I suppose it could be the RNG, I do have awful times with it...like when I went into the forge with 20 best blade pieces and 20 best handle pieces and didn't get one perfect weapon, even with the Gift of Eonake going. Not the first time it's happened either. I've had 3 different occasions where I didn't come out with a single perfect weapon. So, sometimes my luck just sucks.
I have another warrior that's TWC and he's got 1 rank of the Stance of Mongoose and he sees that thing trigger all the time. Granted it's got a 50% chance to trigger over the 20% chance of 1 rank in Executioner's stance, but it still triggers often.
I can see how having 1 rank in the skill and only having a 20% chance for it to trigger....but after 500+ critter and bandit kills with multiple creatures in the room and not once seeing it trigger, it leaves me to think something is very wrong or my guy just sucks at getting the RNG to hit that 20% chance.
I suppose it could be the RNG, I do have awful times with it...like when I went into the forge with 20 best blade pieces and 20 best handle pieces and didn't get one perfect weapon, even with the Gift of Eonake going. Not the first time it's happened either. I've had 3 different occasions where I didn't come out with a single perfect weapon. So, sometimes my luck just sucks.
I have another warrior that's TWC and he's got 1 rank of the Stance of Mongoose and he sees that thing trigger all the time. Granted it's got a 50% chance to trigger over the 20% chance of 1 rank in Executioner's stance, but it still triggers often.
PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/22/2021 05:57 PM CST
Inspect your weapon and make sure it isn't a runestaff.
>inspect my staff
You carefully inspect your quarter staff.
After a careful inspection you determine that a glowbark quarter staff is a quarter staff and requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively.
It looks like this item has been mainly crafted out of glowbark.
Assuming your weapon has the correct weapon base it should be working. Here are the results of a few test swing using the quarter staff from above.
>spell active
You currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 01:53:37
Spirit Barrier .......................... 01:30:52
Spirit Defense .......................... 01:31:04
Armor Support ........................... 03:59:46
Executioner's Stance .................... Indefinite
>att other orc
A silverback orc swings a falchion at you!
You evade the attack by a hair!
>
You swing a glowbark quarter staff at a silverback orc!
AS: +289 vs DS: +96 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +92 = +310
... and hit for 113 points of damage!
Left eye ripped from head, along with most of brain.
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
A silverback orc curls up in the snow and dies.
The orc's corpse is picked up by the force of your blow and hurled at another silverback orc, who is knocked off-balance!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
>att orc
You swing a glowbark quarter staff at a silverback orc!
AS: +289 vs DS: +99 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +65 = +280
... and hit for 129 points of damage!
Massive blow smashes through ribs and drives the silverback orc's heart out the back.
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
A silverback orc curls up in the snow and dies.
The orc's corpse is picked up by the force of your blow and hurled at another silverback orc, who is knocked off-balance!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
I didn't get the other 'success' result with my very limited testing but the manuever appears to be generally working with a quarter staff. If you have the correct weapon base but still can't get it to activate I can do some additional testing to confirm the 2nd target effect as well.
Failing all that (and correct weapon base) you may want to put in an ASSIST to have your specific weapon looked at.
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
>inspect my staff
You carefully inspect your quarter staff.
After a careful inspection you determine that a glowbark quarter staff is a quarter staff and requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively.
It looks like this item has been mainly crafted out of glowbark.
Assuming your weapon has the correct weapon base it should be working. Here are the results of a few test swing using the quarter staff from above.
>spell active
You currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 01:53:37
Spirit Barrier .......................... 01:30:52
Spirit Defense .......................... 01:31:04
Armor Support ........................... 03:59:46
Executioner's Stance .................... Indefinite
>att other orc
A silverback orc swings a falchion at you!
You evade the attack by a hair!
>
You swing a glowbark quarter staff at a silverback orc!
AS: +289 vs DS: +96 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +92 = +310
... and hit for 113 points of damage!
Left eye ripped from head, along with most of brain.
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
A silverback orc curls up in the snow and dies.
The orc's corpse is picked up by the force of your blow and hurled at another silverback orc, who is knocked off-balance!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
>att orc
You swing a glowbark quarter staff at a silverback orc!
AS: +289 vs DS: +99 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +65 = +280
... and hit for 129 points of damage!
Massive blow smashes through ribs and drives the silverback orc's heart out the back.
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
A silverback orc curls up in the snow and dies.
The orc's corpse is picked up by the force of your blow and hurled at another silverback orc, who is knocked off-balance!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
I didn't get the other 'success' result with my very limited testing but the manuever appears to be generally working with a quarter staff. If you have the correct weapon base but still can't get it to activate I can do some additional testing to confirm the 2nd target effect as well.
Failing all that (and correct weapon base) you may want to put in an ASSIST to have your specific weapon looked at.
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
KRAKII
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/23/2021 05:01 AM CST
That ought not make a difference, though: the runestaff is in fact a 2-Hand weapon... just with an even worse DF (across the board) than the already-sucky quarterstaff.
PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/23/2021 09:07 AM CST
>> That ought not make a difference, though: the runestaff is in fact a 2-Hand weapon... ~Krakii
FINE! Have it your way...
>spell active
You currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 01:10:41
Spirit Barrier .......................... 00:47:56
Spirit Defense .......................... 00:48:08
Strength ................................ 03:57:48
Armor Support ........................... 03:16:50
Executioner's Stance .................... Indefinite
>inspect my rune
You carefully inspect your illthorn runestaff.
After a careful inspection you determine that a vermilion illthorn runestaff is a rune staff and requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively.
It looks like this item has been mainly crafted out of illthorn.
>attack
You swing a vermilion illthorn runestaff at a rolton!
AS: +302 vs DS: -2 with AvD: +10 + d100 roll: +59 = +373
... and hit for 78 points of damage!
Blast to hand reduces it to pulp!
The rolton collapses to the ground, emits a final bleat, and dies.
Barely breaking your momentum, you continue on to attack a kobold!
You swing a vermilion illthorn runestaff at a kobold!
AS: +277 vs DS: +40 with AvD: +15 + d100 roll: +36 = +288
... and hit for 68 points of damage!
Left leg ripped from socket at the knee!
A kobold falls to the ground grasping her mangled left leg!
The kobold cries out in pain one last time and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
@BBRODRIGUEZ - Executioner's Stance is a Martial Stance. You can only have one of these active at a time. Make sure you type CMAN EXECUTIONER to activate this stance and then don't activate some other stance (which would disable this one) if you want to utilize this one.
If you have done all of the above and it still is not working for you then I would definitely suggest putting in an ASSIST to have your weapon looked at. The skill itself appears to be working fine with both quarter staves and runestaves (at least from my testing).
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
FINE! Have it your way...
>spell active
You currently have the following active effects:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 01:10:41
Spirit Barrier .......................... 00:47:56
Spirit Defense .......................... 00:48:08
Strength ................................ 03:57:48
Armor Support ........................... 03:16:50
Executioner's Stance .................... Indefinite
>inspect my rune
You carefully inspect your illthorn runestaff.
After a careful inspection you determine that a vermilion illthorn runestaff is a rune staff and requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively.
It looks like this item has been mainly crafted out of illthorn.
>attack
You swing a vermilion illthorn runestaff at a rolton!
AS: +302 vs DS: -2 with AvD: +10 + d100 roll: +59 = +373
... and hit for 78 points of damage!
Blast to hand reduces it to pulp!
The rolton collapses to the ground, emits a final bleat, and dies.
Barely breaking your momentum, you continue on to attack a kobold!
You swing a vermilion illthorn runestaff at a kobold!
AS: +277 vs DS: +40 with AvD: +15 + d100 roll: +36 = +288
... and hit for 68 points of damage!
Left leg ripped from socket at the knee!
A kobold falls to the ground grasping her mangled left leg!
The kobold cries out in pain one last time and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
@BBRODRIGUEZ - Executioner's Stance is a Martial Stance. You can only have one of these active at a time. Make sure you type CMAN EXECUTIONER to activate this stance and then don't activate some other stance (which would disable this one) if you want to utilize this one.
If you have done all of the above and it still is not working for you then I would definitely suggest putting in an ASSIST to have your weapon looked at. The skill itself appears to be working fine with both quarter staves and runestaves (at least from my testing).
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
BBRODRIGUEZ
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/23/2021 06:45 PM CST
Executioner's Stance is the only martial stance he knows.
Weapon is You glance down to see a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff that is 8x w/ grapple flares. Inspects as a two-handed weapon.
Here's his normal spells for hunting:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 03:23:53
Spirit Warding II ....................... 03:24:00
Elemental Defense I ..................... 03:21:54
Elemental Defense II .................... 03:20:58
Elemental Defense III ................... 03:20:54
Thurfel's Ward .......................... 03:22:03
Strength ................................ 03:21:59
Mass Blur ............................... 03:20:38
Executioner's Stance .................... Indefinite
Sometimes he doesn't even have blues, depending on what he's going up against.
Here's a few group of bandits I've killed today:
The third bandit in the last group was a pain, constantly blocking, evading and parrying normal attacks like a pro. I had to resort to hiding and waylaying him. No other creatures were in the room so it didn't matter how I killed him since executioner's stance wouldn't trigger anyway.
That's pretty much how my bandit hunts go. Take a few shots, dish out punishment, get all my kills, but I never see excutioner's stance trigger. 20% chance to trigger isn't that high, but I should have seen it trigger at least once.
My understanding is that there are zero prerequisite to using the stance, so it shouldn't require any other specific cman to be trained in for it to work.
Weapon is You glance down to see a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff that is 8x w/ grapple flares. Inspects as a two-handed weapon.
| You carefully inspect your vultite-alloy quarterstaff. |
| After a careful inspection you determine that a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff is a quarter staff and requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively. |
| >assess my qua |
| You assess the quarterstaff for structural weaknesses and strengths. |
| Careful examination indicates the vultite-alloy quarterstaff has a base strength of 96 and a base durability of 380. You also determine the current integrity of the vultite-alloy quarterstaff to be at 100.0%. |
| Checking out the quarterstaff, it looks like it is masterfully weighted to inflict more critical blows than a normal weapon of its type. |
| You heft the weapon a few times...but note nothing unusual about it. |
| [A translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff has a combat effectiveness rating of 17 points of Critical weighting. It has 0 of 40 services towards the next full rank of combat effectiveness.] |
Here's his normal spells for hunting:
Spells:
Spirit Warding I ........................ 03:23:53
Spirit Warding II ....................... 03:24:00
Elemental Defense I ..................... 03:21:54
Elemental Defense II .................... 03:20:58
Elemental Defense III ................... 03:20:54
Thurfel's Ward .......................... 03:22:03
Strength ................................ 03:21:59
Mass Blur ............................... 03:20:38
Executioner's Stance .................... Indefinite
Sometimes he doesn't even have blues, depending on what he's going up against.
Here's a few group of bandits I've killed today:
| 3 bandits in this group |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human mugger! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +98 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +77 = +287 |
| ... and hit for 85 points of damage! |
| Right leg mangled horribly. |
| [You have 11 kills remaining.] |
| The human mugger rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You feel your vultite-alloy quarterstaff focus itself upon your foe, giving additional force to your strike! |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human bandit! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +177 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +92 = +220 |
| ... and hit for 108 points of damage! |
| Massive blow punches a hole through the human bandit's chest! |
| The human bandit is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human bandit! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +170 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +2 = +137 |
| ... and hit for 32 points of damage! |
| Skull cracks in several places. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >l band |
| You see a fairly typical human bandit that is lying down. |
| He has severe head trauma and bleeding from his ears and deep gashes and serious bleeding from his chest. |
| He is stunned. |
| He has a red neckerchief (worn), a backsword, a reinforced shield and some cuirbouilli leather (worn). |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human bandit! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +134 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +19 = +190 |
| ... and hit for 49 points of damage! |
| Hard hit shatters shield arm. |
| Your vultite-alloy quarterstaff a twisted tendril of force! |
| ... 5 points of damage! |
| Slight leg hold. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human bandit! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +131 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +73 = +247 |
| ... and hit for 93 points of damage! |
| Right hip pulped, severing the leg. |
| [You have 10 kills remaining.] |
| The human bandit rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human mugger! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +171 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +87 = +221 |
| ... and hit for 99 points of damage! |
| Body pulped to a gooey mass. |
| Watch where you step! |
| [You have 9 kills remaining.] |
| The human mugger rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| 2 bandits in this group |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a gnomish brigand! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +101 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +19 = +225 |
| ... and hit for 81 points of damage! |
| Brain driven into neck by mammoth downswing! |
| [You have 7 kills remaining.] |
| The gnomish brigand rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a gnomish outlaw! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +114 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +95 = +288 |
| ... and hit for 121 points of damage! |
| Blow cracks a rib and punctures a lung. |
| Breathing becomes a challenge. |
| The gnomish outlaw is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a gnomish outlaw! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +110 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +78 = +275 |
| ... and hit for 87 points of damage! |
| Left leg ripped from socket at the knee! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You feel your vultite-alloy quarterstaff focus itself upon your foe, giving additional force to your strike! |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a gnomish outlaw! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +88 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +93 = +312 |
| ... and hit for 101 points of damage! |
| Lucky shot severs right hand and sends it flying. |
| The outlaw's broadsword falls to the ground. |
| [You have 6 kills remaining.] |
| The gnomish outlaw rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| 2 bandits in this group |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human mugger! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +127 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +96 = +276 |
| ... and hit for 82 points of damage! |
| Lucky shot severs right hand and sends it flying. |
| The mugger's broadsword falls to the ground. |
| The human mugger is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human mugger! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +122 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +74 = +259 |
| ... and hit for 67 points of damage! |
| Neck broken. |
| The human mugger twitches several times before dying. |
| [You have 4 kills remaining.] |
| The human mugger rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You feel your vultite-alloy quarterstaff focus itself upon your foe, giving additional force to your strike! |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling marauder! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +115 with AvD: +21 + d100 roll: +12 = +200 |
| ... and hit for 51 points of damage! |
| Blast to hand sends fingers flying in several different directions. |
| The marauder's reinforced shield falls to the ground. |
| The halfling marauder is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling marauder! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +96 with AvD: +21 + d100 roll: +54 = +261 |
| ... and hit for 77 points of damage! |
| Right arm ripped from socket at the elbow! |
| The marauder's short sword falls to the ground. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling marauder! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +91 with AvD: +21 + d100 roll: +6 = +218 |
| ... and hit for 98 points of damage! |
| Body pulped to a gooey mass. |
| Watch where you step! |
| [You have 3 kills remaining.] |
| The halfling marauder rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| 3 bandits in this group |
| >at |
| Suddenly, a tiny shard of jet black crystal flies from the shadows toward you! |
| [SMR result: 94 (Open d100: 32, Bonus: 18)] |
| You manage to avoid being hit by the crystal as it shatters harmlessly nearby! |
| > |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human marauder! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +112 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +10 = +203 |
| ... and hit for 73 points of damage! |
| Lucky shot rips through bone and muscle sending right leg flying. |
| The human marauder is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >sea |
| ...wait 2 seconds. |
| >sea |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >sea |
| You don't find anything of interest here. |
| Roundtime: 3 sec. |
| > |
| A halfling highwayman stands up with a grunt. |
| >ro eye |
| You roll your eyes. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human marauder! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +91 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +64 = +278 |
| ... and hit for 103 points of damage! |
| Left hip pulped, severing the leg. |
| Your vultite-alloy quarterstaff a twisted tendril of force! |
| ... 15 points of damage! |
| Hard pull to the hand hurts but not much else. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >sea |
| You discover the hiding place of a human thief! |
| Roundtime: 3 sec. |
| >at thief |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human thief! |
| The human thief evades the attack by a hair! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| > |
| A human marauder lies there, dazed and confused. |
| >at mar |
| You feel your vultite-alloy quarterstaff focus itself upon your foe, giving additional force to your strike! |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a human marauder! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +85 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +87 = +307 |
| ... and hit for 124 points of damage! |
| Blow to stomach rearranges some organs! |
| [You have 1 kills remaining.] |
| The human marauder rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling highwayman! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +189 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +93 = +211 |
| ... and hit for 76 points of damage! |
| Lucky shot rips through bone and muscle sending right leg flying. |
| The halfling highwayman is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 2 seconds. |
| >at |
| ...wait 2 seconds. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling highwayman! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +167 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +3 = +143 |
| ... and hit for 34 points of damage! |
| Whoosh! Several ribs driven into lungs. |
| Your vultite-alloy quarterstaff a twisted tendril of force! |
| ... 15 points of damage! |
| Head maneuver catches eye. |
| Painful! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 3 seconds. |
| >at |
| ...wait 2 seconds. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling highwayman! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +159 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +70 = +218 |
| ... and hit for 58 points of damage! |
| Stomach ripped open by mighty blow! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling highwayman! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +155 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +64 = +216 |
| ... and hit for 78 points of damage! |
| Shield arm removed at the shoulder! |
| The highwayman's reinforced shield falls to the ground. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
| >at |
| ...wait 1 seconds. |
| >at |
| You swing a translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff at a halfling highwayman! |
| AS: +282 vs DS: +120 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +60 = +247 |
| ... and hit for 73 points of damage! |
| Lucky shot severs left hand and sends it flying. |
| [You have completed this portion of your Adventurer's Guild task.] |
| The halfling highwayman rolls over and dies. |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
The third bandit in the last group was a pain, constantly blocking, evading and parrying normal attacks like a pro. I had to resort to hiding and waylaying him. No other creatures were in the room so it didn't matter how I killed him since executioner's stance wouldn't trigger anyway.
That's pretty much how my bandit hunts go. Take a few shots, dish out punishment, get all my kills, but I never see excutioner's stance trigger. 20% chance to trigger isn't that high, but I should have seen it trigger at least once.
My understanding is that there are zero prerequisite to using the stance, so it shouldn't require any other specific cman to be trained in for it to work.
PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/23/2021 07:56 PM CST
The stance itself is definitely working with a quarter staff weapon base (my test weapon was found in the treasure system.)
If you want to test further, go to a swarmy low level area and just swing away with both 1) your weapon and 2) an alternate generic quarter staff (the rabid squirrels outside of Icemule are a great choice - just stand there for a minute or two and they will be everywhere). You are welcome to borrow the one I used for my testing since we KNOW it works. It won't take that many swings to confirm 1) it works for you with a different quarter staff 2) it does/does not work for your specific weapon.
With or without the above, I would definitely assist to have your weapon looked at. Maybe when it was built someone forget to set a flag on the item or something that prevents it from working correctly with the stance. I've definitely run into this issue with perfect weapons, for example, where they look perfect but they actually have multiple flags and if one is not set correctly they don't actually provide the benefit / work correctly with things like loresong.
Another alternative might be that something is corrupt / not kicking in for your character so the stance isn't turning on. The testing suggested above will validate that as well.
Best of luck on getting the issue resolved and feel free to PM me if you do want to borrow my test quarter staff (or look for Faulkil in-game, he is frequently around during the weekends).
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
If you want to test further, go to a swarmy low level area and just swing away with both 1) your weapon and 2) an alternate generic quarter staff (the rabid squirrels outside of Icemule are a great choice - just stand there for a minute or two and they will be everywhere). You are welcome to borrow the one I used for my testing since we KNOW it works. It won't take that many swings to confirm 1) it works for you with a different quarter staff 2) it does/does not work for your specific weapon.
With or without the above, I would definitely assist to have your weapon looked at. Maybe when it was built someone forget to set a flag on the item or something that prevents it from working correctly with the stance. I've definitely run into this issue with perfect weapons, for example, where they look perfect but they actually have multiple flags and if one is not set correctly they don't actually provide the benefit / work correctly with things like loresong.
Another alternative might be that something is corrupt / not kicking in for your character so the stance isn't turning on. The testing suggested above will validate that as well.
Best of luck on getting the issue resolved and feel free to PM me if you do want to borrow my test quarter staff (or look for Faulkil in-game, he is frequently around during the weekends).
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
BBRODRIGUEZ
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/24/2021 09:52 AM CST
>With or without the above, I would definitely assist to have your weapon looked at. Maybe when it was built someone forget to set a flag on the item or something that prevents it from working correctly with the stance. I've definitely run into this issue with perfect weapons, for example, where they look perfect but they actually have multiple flags and if one is not set correctly they don't actually provide the benefit / work correctly with things like loresong.
I wandered around the area in Solhaven with mongrel trolls, forest trolls, greater orcs and coyotes.
I dragged along a couple other bodies with me to get it really busy.
I went through and killed around 40 creatures using my translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff and not once did Exectioner's Stance trigger when there were 2-4 other creatures in the room.
I borrowed a runestaff from one of my helpers and after killing a second creature Exectioner's Stance triggered.
Looks like it must be an issue with the translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff. I'll have to put in an assist later when I have more time to be around.
Thanks for all the help.
I wandered around the area in Solhaven with mongrel trolls, forest trolls, greater orcs and coyotes.
I dragged along a couple other bodies with me to get it really busy.
I went through and killed around 40 creatures using my translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff and not once did Exectioner's Stance trigger when there were 2-4 other creatures in the room.
I borrowed a runestaff from one of my helpers and after killing a second creature Exectioner's Stance triggered.
| >at coy |
| You swing a gem-capped orase runestaff at a coyote! |
| AS: +258 vs DS: +52 with AvD: +12 + d100 roll: +61 = +279 |
| ... and hit for 61 points of damage! |
| Knocked sideways several feet by blow to back. |
| The coyote falls to the ground and dies. |
| Barely breaking your momentum, you continue on to attack a forest troll! |
| You swing a gem-capped orase runestaff at a forest troll! |
| AS: +233 vs DS: +73 with AvD: +10 + d100 roll: +33 = +203 |
| ... and hit for 20 points of damage! |
| Blow leaves an imprint on the forest troll's chest! |
| Roundtime: 5 sec. |
Looks like it must be an issue with the translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff. I'll have to put in an assist later when I have more time to be around.
Thanks for all the help.
BBRODRIGUEZ
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/26/2021 07:45 AM CST
I spoke with a GH the other day. They took my info and asked for me to BUG my translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff.
I put in bug report on the weapon saying it does not work with Executioner's Stance.
Hopefully someone will get into looking at it and get it resolved.
I put in bug report on the weapon saying it does not work with Executioner's Stance.
Hopefully someone will get into looking at it and get it resolved.
PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky?
12/26/2021 08:55 AM CST
Great news! Hopefully you will begin dealing out quarter staff justice at an even faster rate with Executioners Stance soon!
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
BBRODRIGUEZ
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky? - NIR?
01/03/2022 07:59 PM CST
I bugged my weapon in game back on the 25th (yep, Holidays and all probably got things on the backburner so I understand) and I'm just curious if I should patiently wait for a fix to come through or if I should do an assist in game and request a GM to look at my weapon?
I have registered it and as I said, bugged it saying that the weapon is not triggering with Executioner's Stance.
Or, if it something you can't fix, can I get a CM fixskill? I only have a couple points tied up and sure, it wouldn't take that long to untrain, but I'd rather not have to slowly wait for the cman points to untrain.
Just looking for some direction on this issue.
Thanks.
I have registered it and as I said, bugged it saying that the weapon is not triggering with Executioner's Stance.
Or, if it something you can't fix, can I get a CM fixskill? I only have a couple points tied up and sure, it wouldn't take that long to untrain, but I'd rather not have to slowly wait for the cman points to untrain.
Just looking for some direction on this issue.
Thanks.
PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky? - NIR?
01/04/2022 04:47 PM CST
If it were me, I would ASSIST in the game so that a GM can take a look at it directly.
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
-- Robert
From the pitch of the vibration you determine that the purpose of the shield is as a shield.
BBRODRIGUEZ
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky? - NIR?
02/15/2022 09:25 PM CST
So, anyone had a chance to see why my translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff does not trigger Executioner's Stance?
I don't have time to stand around all day hoping for a GM to pop in to test my weapon if I were to put in another assist. My game time wanes and I don't want to waste it hoping someone that's in the know is around to check things out. I've registered it (it is the MCW one, but I've taken this one to 8x and add grapple flares) around the time I started this topic. It shouldn't be hard to find, I would think, if it needs to be looked at.
I know the issue is not resolved because I went through and kicked the crap out of some creatures and bandits today and Excetioner's Stance is still not triggering with this THW.
In fact, I'll help a little.
I'm checking to see if a player forged perfect razern quarterstaff works with EC or not....
Oh, look...it does! This happened after the 5th kill with multiple creatures in a room.
I then went through with my translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff and killed 30+ creatures when multiple creatures were in the room and EC stance would not trigger.
So, the issue clearly isn't the weapon base of quarterstaff, but it certainly is an issue with my weapon. Can this please be looked at and fixed? Or do I have to spend copious amounts of money at DR to get this fixed?
I apologize if I sound perturbed, but I'd really like to make use of the game systems as they were designed.
I don't have time to stand around all day hoping for a GM to pop in to test my weapon if I were to put in another assist. My game time wanes and I don't want to waste it hoping someone that's in the know is around to check things out. I've registered it (it is the MCW one, but I've taken this one to 8x and add grapple flares) around the time I started this topic. It shouldn't be hard to find, I would think, if it needs to be looked at.
I know the issue is not resolved because I went through and kicked the crap out of some creatures and bandits today and Excetioner's Stance is still not triggering with this THW.
In fact, I'll help a little.
I'm checking to see if a player forged perfect razern quarterstaff works with EC or not....
Oh, look...it does! This happened after the 5th kill with multiple creatures in a room.
| >at tro |
| You swing a perfect razern quarterstaff at a mongrel troll! |
| AS: +287 vs DS: +85 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +91 = +317 |
| ... and hit for 100 points of damage! |
| Vertebrae in neck disintegrate from impact! |
| Neck sinks into shoulders. |
| The mongrel troll falls to the ground with a thud. |
| The deep blue glow leaves a mongrel troll. |
| Barely breaking your momentum, you continue on to attack a greater orc! |
| You swing a perfect razern quarterstaff at a greater orc! |
| AS: +262 vs DS: +82 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +67 = +272 |
| ... and hit for 42 points of damage! |
| Shot to the neck scrapes away skin. |
| Some nasty bleeding. |
| The greater orc is stunned! |
| Roundtime: 4 sec. |
I then went through with my translucent vultite-alloy quarterstaff and killed 30+ creatures when multiple creatures were in the room and EC stance would not trigger.
So, the issue clearly isn't the weapon base of quarterstaff, but it certainly is an issue with my weapon. Can this please be looked at and fixed? Or do I have to spend copious amounts of money at DR to get this fixed?
I apologize if I sound perturbed, but I'd really like to make use of the game systems as they were designed.
GS4-HAXUS
Re: Executioner's Stance - buggy or unlucky? - NIR?
02/18/2022 04:11 PM CST
Do you have a a current assist or referral in on this? If not, please put one in and ask the responding person to check if it’s properly flagged as a twohanded weapon. That can cause this issue if it’s not. This is something that can only be fixed by a GM in a live manner.
