Hey all, I find that stopping to eat herbs slows down hunting quite a bit. So, I'm wondering: would adding crit padding to my warrior's plate armor specifically reduce the number of rank 1 wounds by a noticeable amount? Or would crit padding+redux (36.76%) just be gilding the lily, as it were?
JEKYL
Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/25/2022 09:26 PM CST
RATHBONER
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/26/2022 12:03 AM CST
It'll make no difference at all.
Critical padding cannot reduce a critical that would have been rank 1 or higher to a rank 0.
It can reduce majors to minors and reduce the blood loss and status effects associated with wounds, but it cannot prevent wounds altogether.
If your RT from minor wound herbs is greater than 3s, train more FA (or join the evil dwarf society)
To reduce the chance of minors stacking to majors if you don't herb them, learn armor reinforcement.
GoS gives its members sigils that allow them to ignore wound penalties and eat herbs fast.
I prefer Voln and enough FA to drop major wound herb RT to 3s (40 ranks). Minor wounds at 3s just needs 8 ranks of FA.
Critical padding cannot reduce a critical that would have been rank 1 or higher to a rank 0.
It can reduce majors to minors and reduce the blood loss and status effects associated with wounds, but it cannot prevent wounds altogether.
If your RT from minor wound herbs is greater than 3s, train more FA (or join the evil dwarf society)
To reduce the chance of minors stacking to majors if you don't herb them, learn armor reinforcement.
GoS gives its members sigils that allow them to ignore wound penalties and eat herbs fast.
I prefer Voln and enough FA to drop major wound herb RT to 3s (40 ranks). Minor wounds at 3s just needs 8 ranks of FA.
JEKYL
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/26/2022 01:35 PM CST
<Critical padding cannot reduce a critical that would have been rank 1 or higher to a rank 0.
Ah, that is exactly the info I was looking for! Thank you, that point is not made clear on the wiki.
My warrior already has 3s RT for herbs, and I'm in Voln for in-character reasons, so I guess that's as good as it'll get. C'est la vie. Though I do look forward to trying out the evil dwarf society for the first time (ha, love that!) with a paladin or monk I plan to roll up soon.
Ah, that is exactly the info I was looking for! Thank you, that point is not made clear on the wiki.
My warrior already has 3s RT for herbs, and I'm in Voln for in-character reasons, so I guess that's as good as it'll get. C'est la vie. Though I do look forward to trying out the evil dwarf society for the first time (ha, love that!) with a paladin or monk I plan to roll up soon.
OM1E5GA
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/27/2022 01:09 AM CST
<My warrior already has 3s RT for herbs, and I'm in Voln for in-character reasons, so I guess that's as good as it'll get. >
Armor Reinforcement will help keep those minors from stacking. It's not 100% effective so you'll prolly wanna munch some herbs between fights if you get hit on the head/eyes, but its effect is def noticeable... esp during prolonged fights or swarms.
Dunno if it's worth giving up Support for most races, but I don't start noticing the effects of encumbrance on my giantkin warrior till her max deep cloak is full and a box is added to her backpack... so Support was never that attractive to me.
Starchitin, the OG
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Armor Reinforcement will help keep those minors from stacking. It's not 100% effective so you'll prolly wanna munch some herbs between fights if you get hit on the head/eyes, but its effect is def noticeable... esp during prolonged fights or swarms.
Dunno if it's worth giving up Support for most races, but I don't start noticing the effects of encumbrance on my giantkin warrior till her max deep cloak is full and a box is added to her backpack... so Support was never that attractive to me.
Starchitin, the OG
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ACMEGAMER
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/27/2022 08:51 AM CST
| Armor Reinforcement will help keep those minors from stacking. It's not 100% effective so you'll prolly wanna munch some herbs between fights if you get hit on the head/eyes, but its effect is def noticeable... esp during prolonged fights or swarms. |
| Dunno if it's worth giving up Support for most races, but I don't start noticing the effects of encumbrance on my giantkin warrior till her max deep cloak is full and a box is added to her backpack... so Support was never that attractive to me. |
| Starchitin, the OG |
You hit on something that I've been trying to nail down right there. My elf does use Armor Support because he's an elf but Armor Reinforcement looks damn nice. <sigh>
OM1E5GA
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/27/2022 09:24 AM CST
My warrior just leveled out of the Citadel and has moved on to yetis and dwellers, so if you see Toman around the Landing feel free to ask her for Reinforcement if you wanna try it out. She usually rests by the well between hunts.
Starchitin, the OG
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JEKYL
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/27/2022 11:16 AM CST
>Armor Reinforcement will help keep those minors from stacking.
My warrior is at 5 levels of reinforcement and it noticeably helps in that regard! I appreciate that it has specific messaging when it does, too. He also has 4 levels of support (and closing in on 5), so I switch to that when I'm carrying lots of boxes, which is pretty useful as a dark elf.
I may switch support to slashing soon as I'm approaching Rift Plane 4 hunting, where I hear it is particularly helpful against rift crawlers, but I don't know much more than that.
My warrior is at 5 levels of reinforcement and it noticeably helps in that regard! I appreciate that it has specific messaging when it does, too. He also has 4 levels of support (and closing in on 5), so I switch to that when I'm carrying lots of boxes, which is pretty useful as a dark elf.
I may switch support to slashing soon as I'm approaching Rift Plane 4 hunting, where I hear it is particularly helpful against rift crawlers, but I don't know much more than that.
KESS2
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/28/2022 12:43 PM CST
Deeds, you'll need deeds.
Plane 4 is the most fun plane just be ware that them rift crawlers will get lucky. Even if you're SUPER capped they can still do wonderous, magical things with their teeth that'll both surprise and ensadden you.
I know 'ensadden' isn't a word but I've made it a word now. It means 'to make sad'.
Yeah where was I?
Oh, deeds.
Plane 4 is the most fun plane just be ware that them rift crawlers will get lucky. Even if you're SUPER capped they can still do wonderous, magical things with their teeth that'll both surprise and ensadden you.
I know 'ensadden' isn't a word but I've made it a word now. It means 'to make sad'.
Yeah where was I?
Oh, deeds.
OM1E5GA
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/28/2022 01:07 PM CST
<Plane 4 is the most fun plane just be ware that them rift crawlers will get lucky. Even if you're SUPER capped they can still do wonderous, magical things with their teeth that'll both surprise and ensadden you.>
Yea, crawlers make me glad my warrior isn't close enough to cap to have to figure out what to do with her at that level. They aren't so bad with my sorcerer cause 711 means he's safe from them unless they burst out of the ground under him... but I don't have any clue what my warrior will be able to do with them other then immediately MSTRIKE and pray for the best. Maneuvers against anything higher level then yourself just aren't reliable.... even if it's only a couple levels, as I'm experiencing now hunting krag yeti and dwellers at level 68
Starchitin, the OG
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Yea, crawlers make me glad my warrior isn't close enough to cap to have to figure out what to do with her at that level. They aren't so bad with my sorcerer cause 711 means he's safe from them unless they burst out of the ground under him... but I don't have any clue what my warrior will be able to do with them other then immediately MSTRIKE and pray for the best. Maneuvers against anything higher level then yourself just aren't reliable.... even if it's only a couple levels, as I'm experiencing now hunting krag yeti and dwellers at level 68
Starchitin, the OG
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RATHBONER
Re: Would crit padding my full plate significantly reduce the amount of minor wounds received?
01/29/2022 07:07 AM CST
>Yea, crawlers make me glad my warrior isn't close enough to cap to have to figure out what to do with her at that level. They aren't so bad with my sorcerer cause 711 means he's safe from them unless they burst out of the ground under him... but I don't have any clue what my warrior will be able to do with them other then immediately MSTRIKE and pray for the best. Maneuvers against anything higher level then yourself just aren't reliable.... even if it's only a couple levels, as I'm experiencing now hunting krag yeti and dwellers at level 68
Slash fittings. Crusaders were more of a pain for me. Brains and worms squished, but crusaders cheated on stance so hitting them harder than they regenerated was a problem.
I got cheesed too much for my taste with 20% resistance, but 30% was fine. CMs helped but weren't actually critical for dealing with crawlers. With the masses of extra tools available now, I'd be surprised if you find it a problem after getting good enough fittings.
Slash fittings. Crusaders were more of a pain for me. Brains and worms squished, but crusaders cheated on stance so hitting them harder than they regenerated was a problem.
I got cheesed too much for my taste with 20% resistance, but 30% was fine. CMs helped but weren't actually critical for dealing with crawlers. With the masses of extra tools available now, I'd be surprised if you find it a problem after getting good enough fittings.
