A lot of our titles are not WM titles. They are general magic titles. Please donate all of the extra ones to that category so that we may have more guild appropriate ones as well as fleshing out that category for other guilds.

Mana Seeker, Rune Tinkerer, Mana Sink, Astute Mage, Mana Channeler, Rune Setter, Mana Siphon, Mana Factor, Rune Master, Mana Fulcrum, Mana Hammer, Runeflinger, Sigilmaster, Sigilist, Mageling, Novice Mage

The general sounding titles like Arcane Bullseye are questionable because they are TM, but by having arcane in front they become WM... I guess.

I'm working under the way that current criminal/thief titles are setup as it seems superior then having a monopoly on skill titles. I've trained to be a Rune Master, but so has Bob Cleric and Sally Moon Mage.

- Maje

Maje is absolutely right. The best titles we have are the elemental ones, but even there, how many variations of "flamecaster, flamedancer, flamespitter, pyromancer" can you deal with.

Our highest and most "distinguished titles" are:
# High Wizard
* 4600 in Overall Magic
# Arch Wizard
* 5370 in Overall Magic

...going from Olwydd.

What's that? Nothing particularly dealing with what it means to be a Warrior mage, and, in fact, could refer to any of the Magic-Primary guilds.

The titles where you've tried to show what it means to be a warrior mage? Elemental Defender is ok, but then I get a list of things like Arcane Scrapper, Arcane Fighter, Arcane Targeter, Arcane Straightshot, Aethereal Lancer...

None of these have ANY flavor, and there's a reason you don't see anyone wearing them.

Try to find more ways to make clear the fact that a Warrior Mage is not merely a mage in the title system, and you'll have a success. As it is...

Well, I think I'll be sticking with Flamedancer/Telo'Getha for quite a while.

<<Try to find more ways to make clear the fact that a Warrior Mage is not merely a mage in the title system, and you'll have a success. As it is...

Personally, I think there are a few that are really good at what they do. And there are others, that do not - the only problem is, I think, Spellcasting Guilds have a lot of 'overlapping' general magic'esque titles. It's bound to happen.

<<Any suggestions? Instead of posting which titles you think are bad, post some titles you think would be good. The 'flavorless' ones aren't going away, but you do have the opportunity to suggest some titles you'd actually wear.

Which is why I always appreciate and say good things about Wythor. People are quick, even in the own Guild, to complain about our titles. But very few have offered any alternatives (even in the second round of suggested spell titles...) - the reason we have so many Flame Crafter/etc. ones is not because lack of origionality, I feel, on anyones part - but Team WM making a distinct choice to include varying Magic levels that reflect a Mages choice in spells since many of use 'call ourselves' Fire Mages, Water Mages, etc. For someone like me, I enjoy the fact there are lots of specific-element themed spells since I exclude myself from any Title that requires a spell or more from each spellbook.

However, that being said - there's always room for improvement. But considering we just recently got a two huge batches of titles, I'd rather have Team WM focus on finishing what is currently at hand so one day they can get to the really cool stuff: Combat/spellcasting fams, enchanting - and maybe even Blackfire.

~The Fire Lion Magmus Bloodston, Blackfire Enthusiast

I would like to point out that a majority of the WM titles were suggested by players on the boards. What can you do to change the current ones? Very little.

But, if there are some titles you would like to see added, our team has demonstrated in the past that they take a look at suggested titles and incorporate some.


Trebber

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>Tornado

Since we're full on titles for a while, if you're looking for something like this, you can use one of the following:

Cyclone

- 120 in Primary Magic

- 2 Air spells

Typhoon

- 235 in Primary Magic

- 3 Air spells

Hurricane

- 345 in Primary Magic

- 4 Air spells

Tempest

- 480 in Primary Magic

- 5 spells each from Water/Air/Electricity

Tempest is my favorite, but I'm short one Water spell. <insert pouting here>

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Fuquois

Name: Warlock Ndin

Yes, please don't mess with the Warlock title.. I was just hoping for something to look forward to for the future that compare to the female titles.


-Master Ndin

Here, I put WARLOCK into thesaurus.reference.com
(http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/warlock)

Got a couple of entries. Here are the ones that fit.

Synonyms:
archimage, charmer, conjurer, conjuror, diabolist, diviner, enchanter, enchantress, exorciser, exorcist, fortune-teller, genie, genius, illusionist, marvel, medicine man, medium, miracle worker, necromancer, prophet, satanist, seer, shaman, siren, soothsayer, sorcerer, spellbinder, thaumaturge, theurgist, trickster, virtuoso, voodoo, warlock, witch, witch doctor, wizard

Synonyms:
astrologer, augurer, clairvoyant, conjurer, diviner, enchanter, fortuneteller, hypnotist, magician, magus, medium, necromancer, occultist, palmist, seer, shaman, soothsayer, sorcerer, thaumaturge, warlock, witch




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Just a few more title suggestions, since Aethereal lancer showed up and I, personally, love me some combat looking titles:

Based on barrage effects:
Electric/Burning/Ice/Granite/Wind/Aethereal blade/bludgeoner

or

Incindiary warrior
Frost reaper
Lightning strike
Stone volley
Air assault
Aethereal eviscerator

Frost scythe reference:
Frost Halberdier

Half way fist of stone reference:
Earth/stone slinger/hurler

I would give tentative requirements, but I'm not entirely sure most of those have not been asked before, just throwing some thoughts into the ring to replace or compensate the "bad" ones.

Alas, Wythor, therein lies the hitch.

The one thing that I'd like to see is more focus placed on the individual player's weapon/combat style choices.

While it's not my choice for a title (in part because of the vocal requirement), I find things like the Bladesinger title very interesting.

Arcane Sunderer is a cool title in its requirements, but, like many titles, relies on the Arcane prefix and doesn't strike me, personally, as being incredibly interesting to hear. Unfortunately, it seems to be the only one of that type that I could find (though, again, these are based on the Olwydd/Play.net title lists and my own title list, so there are probably some hidden ones I don't know about).

I just wish that there were more "flavorful" titles that deal with both sides of that which makes a warrior mage. Pretty much everything except scholarship.

>>Just a few more title suggestions, since Aethereal lancer showed up and I, personally, love me some combat looking titles

Hmm, some of those look interesting. I'll jot them down for reference.

>>The one thing that I'd like to see is more focus placed on the individual player's weapon/combat style choices.

The difficulty with that is that there are already a lot of weapon titles, so we can't focus on just the nonmagical combat aspect. Anything we come up with would have to incorporate both the magic aspect of the guild (which is elemental in nature) and the combat aspect (which could be magical or nonmagical). It's hard defining everything a Warrior Mage is in just one or two words.

Which is why I asked for suggestions -- I don't have time to sit around and think of new combinations all day, but some player suggestions provide great ideas and starting points for entire series of titles.


- GM Wythor

The plain and simple truth is that the truth is rarely plain and never simple.

>what about titles based on the type of familiar you possess or can summon? I've seen summoner but not much in terms of specific ones along that line, unless i've just not noticed them.

Gerbil Master?

Arcane Gerbil Master?

I think the title "Tropicalo" should be availible to anyone with enough Multi Opponent and Targeted Magic

>Tropicalo Tropicalo just arrived.

-Tropicalo

>Tropicalo TropiCALO
>Trop-i-CALO
>Tropicalo TropiCALO
>Trop-i-CALO
>Tropicalo TropiCALO
>Trop-Trop-Trop-Tropicalo.

The sad thing is, I am pretty sure I know the tune you are 'singing' this to...

:(

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Sis ut sanus amo a indoles , narro quispiam in Latin.

~Raydell, player of

50 TM, 30 multi and you can get the Tropicalo title.

I am --- Navak

>>Rock me Tropicalo!<<

Seconded.

<<I really like the Mana Fulcrum and Mana Hammer titles. They're powerful. By sheer force of will, a Mana Hammer can smash you apart with the elements they command utterly and completely. The Mana Fulcrum can leverage the elemental forces through themselves to obliterate you with a thought.

So delete elements/elemental and insert lunar or divine into your sentences. It's a good title, but generic.

And no I haven't thought about titles I would like as that wasn't the original goal I had in mind for this thread.

- Maje

Magic Marker -> Knows MoA.

I am --- Navak