can zephyr go back to being Augmentation? It was my only aug spell...
Or alternatively, based on the statement that Utility is for healing and Augmentation is for stats, could Ignite become augmentation? I'd be fine with that :)
Plus, aren't you "augmenting" your weapon when you cast it?
BOBBYGITR
VOLCANUS
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 03:21 PM CDT
For 1.5 gold, you can buy an ease burden scroll.
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ease_Burden
Or, if you have more coin/spell slots/skills, you can pick up tailwind, rage, whispers of the muse, will of winter, echoes of aether, soul ablaze, swirling winds, sure footing, or YS. Some are cheaper than others, but they all provide very nice effects.
BADGOPHER
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 03:30 PM CDT
>Plus, aren't you "augmenting" your weapon when you cast it?
I think augmentation is pretty narrowly defined as boosting (character) stats or skill?
I think augmentation is pretty narrowly defined as boosting (character) stats or skill?
ROBERTDH
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 04:01 PM CDT
>I think augmentation is pretty narrowly defined as boosting (character) stats or skill?
Per recent magic-team comments, Augmentation is very, very broadly defined as 'improves your character.'
http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/The%20Warrior%20Mages/Magic%20Talk%20-%20Current%20Warrior%20Mage%20Magic/view/1869
Per these definitions, weapon buffs should be agumentation, but the are not because Utility (defined, poorly, as 'none of the above') does not capture enough effects.
Join my 2016 campaign to rename and redefine Utility as Conjuration.
>Forgive my snark, but welcome to the life of a warrior mage.
Per recent magic-team comments, Augmentation is very, very broadly defined as 'improves your character.'
http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/The%20Warrior%20Mages/Magic%20Talk%20-%20Current%20Warrior%20Mage%20Magic/view/1869
Per these definitions, weapon buffs should be agumentation, but the are not because Utility (defined, poorly, as 'none of the above') does not capture enough effects.
Join my 2016 campaign to rename and redefine Utility as Conjuration.
>Forgive my snark, but welcome to the life of a warrior mage.
BOBBYGITR
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 04:11 PM CDT
Conjuration, as in, summoning things up?
IE - Zephyr conjures up wind and Ignite conjures up some fire?
Compost (another utility spell) conjures up... faster than normal nature.
I can get behind that.
IE - Zephyr conjures up wind and Ignite conjures up some fire?
Compost (another utility spell) conjures up... faster than normal nature.
I can get behind that.
ROBERTDH
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 04:20 PM CDT
>Conjuration, as in, summoning things up?
I'm also being horribly biased by my D&D youthe where healing was also a 'conjuration' effect. Also, 'utility' is semantically the odd word out in a list of 'augmentation, debilitation, warding, targeted magic and.... utility.' Conjuration would be better prose!
>Forgive my snark, but welcome to the life of a warrior mage.
I'm also being horribly biased by my D&D youthe where healing was also a 'conjuration' effect. Also, 'utility' is semantically the odd word out in a list of 'augmentation, debilitation, warding, targeted magic and.... utility.' Conjuration would be better prose!
>Forgive my snark, but welcome to the life of a warrior mage.
ILLIENA
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 04:25 PM CDT
> I'm also being horribly biased by my D&D youthe where healing was also a 'conjuration' effect.
Some of us remember when it was Necromancy.
Some of us remember when it was Necromancy.
CARAAMON
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 06:12 PM CDT
Utilitation.
Weapons for Sale:
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/User:CARAAMON#Wares
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
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Weapons for Sale:
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/User:CARAAMON#Wares
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
DR-RAESH
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 08:24 PM CDT
That's the problem with augmentation - it ends up drinking Utility's milk shake to become, by far, the most bloated of the skills.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
ABSOLON
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 09:16 PM CDT
<<can zephyr go back to being Augmentation? It was my only aug spell...
Another option currently available to you is using the spell library in Throne City to forget spells, clearing up the slots to pick different ones. It's still currently in preview mode, so it's free without any downtime between uses aside from it only being open during the in-game daytime. You can even re-jig your entire spell book this way with only a small bit of time and effort if you really wanted to.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Epedia Admins - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elanthipedia:Administrators
Another option currently available to you is using the spell library in Throne City to forget spells, clearing up the slots to pick different ones. It's still currently in preview mode, so it's free without any downtime between uses aside from it only being open during the in-game daytime. You can even re-jig your entire spell book this way with only a small bit of time and effort if you really wanted to.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Epedia Admins - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elanthipedia:Administrators
MKIBBE1
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 09:43 PM CDT
I like the Zephyr change. Now I can go ETF ETF RM GAF AB IGNITE ZEPHYR and get Utility going a little. Cast AC, research utiity 300, .pathw (summon admittance/starts pathway) and that's my Utiity training way!
Side idea. How about a utility spell that specifies spells like RM and Zephyr to ONLY me. Boosting the room is cool when I want to, but be awesome if had a say Air spell that funneled all that goodness to hide or help me breath only.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Side idea. How about a utility spell that specifies spells like RM and Zephyr to ONLY me. Boosting the room is cool when I want to, but be awesome if had a say Air spell that funneled all that goodness to hide or help me breath only.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
DR-RAESH
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 10:25 PM CDT
>>http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/The%20Warrior%20Mages/Magic%20Talk%20-%20Current%20Warrior%20Mage%20Magic/view/1869
>Per these definitions, weapon buffs should be agumentation, but the are not because Utility (defined, poorly, as 'none of the above') does not capture enough effects.
You're putting words into my mouth. We've developed them as both and then had an internal discussion to decide what they are. Are they "Utility for your character" or "Augmentation for the weapon". Ultimately we went with Utility since we can define Augmentation as "Stuff which makes characters better than they were" and still end up with a very broad and useful working definition of the skill.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
>Per these definitions, weapon buffs should be agumentation, but the are not because Utility (defined, poorly, as 'none of the above') does not capture enough effects.
You're putting words into my mouth. We've developed them as both and then had an internal discussion to decide what they are. Are they "Utility for your character" or "Augmentation for the weapon". Ultimately we went with Utility since we can define Augmentation as "Stuff which makes characters better than they were" and still end up with a very broad and useful working definition of the skill.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
ASHBOMB
Re: Zephyr?
04/06/2015 10:50 PM CDT
>>You're putting words into my mouth. We've developed them as both and then had an internal discussion to decide what they are. Are they "Utility for your character" or "Augmentation for the weapon". Ultimately we went with Utility since we can define Augmentation as "Stuff which makes characters better than they were" and still end up with a very broad and useful working definition of the skill.
Yeah this is what I thought it was, Augment yourself, Utilize other things.
"Game balance is sobbing over in the corner as it considers the ramifications of AoE Blufmor Garaen. Your spell slots send their condolences." - GM Raesh
