Oh, hey, look. I can make more work for you.

I meant to say Gar Zeng not Lightning Bolt (That should make more sense).

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

That was all said humorously in case someone doesn't get it, btw...

Okay, this has been updated on elanthipedia and the graphical spell tree... again.

Bah now I have to go to Throne to forget spells because I hate the electricity book and the less I have to have the better. Or maybe thta book could get looked at to be worthwhile. Tingle is the only spell I use and only on Boss mobs.

[00:15] Chatter[Uzmam] Damian just wants to beat up dancers, what a bully
[00:15] Chatter[Morpion] Wait for them outside the club at 3 am?
[00:15] Chatter[Damian] i enjoy making them scream with pure terror

Tremor is pretty boss.

- Starlear, Warrior Mage and Lieutenant of Ilithi's Crystal Vanguard -

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Tremor and shockwave are apples and oranges really.

Tremor is more than just knockdown. With each cast it pulses a number of times, like a not quite mini cyclic, every few seconds for 30ish seconds for me. Each pulse reduces balance, or if you succeed well enough will knock down, or even knock things back away from you. If you mix that with either some offensive spells or weapon hits (or you additionally vertigo something while it's tremored) it's brutal.

Shockwave is my "I want to hit the entire room and not just the 4 things engaged to me" spell personally but that isn't something I use regularly. I simply had the spell slots available to pick up a spell that I will only cast once every few months.

Shockwave is a TM spell and does damage (cold and slice, or fire and impact with Flame Shockwave - I picked it over chain lightning because of the variable damage options). Tremor doesn't. But tremor is a pretty solid way to keep a bunch of crap unbalanced and not hitting you, as well as making it easier for you to hit them.

- Starlear, Warrior Mage and Lieutenant of Ilithi's Crystal Vanguard -

- I maintain the Warrior Mage Beginner's Guide at:

https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Beginner%27s_Warrior_Mage_Guide

Crap Starlear.. I posted my Question this morning before my coffee.. I meant to ask how Tremor compares to TC? Shockwave was supposed to be compared to Fireball for overall effective get things off someone and dead?
I apologize for the mix up, but I thank you guys for the good information... I keep thinking of Frostbite, Tremor and then Vertigo (and if I have it after some of the changes, TC)and it kind of cracks me up, I admit.

Hmmm ok, thank you... I never used tremor much, just a few times before I realized I could get a lesser mana cost frostbite or TC off for what appeared to be more effectiveness, so wasn't too sure about it. Frostbite's Stamina Sap I love.. drops most things to the ground for a couple seconds at least and allows for a retreat if need be, or just keep hitting them and you can actually take on things that are higher than your defenses (and to an extent at the far upper edge of your weapons) with some decent safety margins. I just like to have options for other of crap moments, or for when the thing is immune to one disabler (ie. IP or Frostbite not working, or stun immune etc etc), and I was already looking towards another area Spell for when I needed to stack up a lot of damage with Fire Rain, and couldn't decide if (which I already have this and will be keeping regardless) Fireball's possible/probable lesser max target limit and random shards would be enough, or if I was better to get Shockwave for the bigger target numbers and less randomness. If Tremor really is that good and Fireball can fill the normal day to day AoE needs besides Fire rain, then I could open up 6 more slots to use elsewhere.. or if I wanted to get Flame Shockwave, I would need to stop backtraining and just work on circling for a couple of circles until I get one more slot or give up my ease scroll slot for my flame shockwave scroll lol. Either way, this is much more information and insight than I had... Thank you all again for the information and input. Much thinking to do and possibly/probably change when I get home this eve.

Ok then.. Thanks Starlear, between what you and Powerhaus have said (both here and what has been said in the other thread about our TM spells that Raesh asked, along with Mordimer's input), I think I will drop the whole PW ->

Shockwave line for now, and get Tremor and open up a few more slots for other spells or feats.. other than Electricity, because I am still avoiding that (unless it is to get MaB lol). So definately to throne city tonight when I get

home, assuming it is all still on free erase that is. Thanks everyone for the information, it is good to have when one isn't able to test the spells at the fullness of their abilities.

Magnetic Ballista. Before you can learn this spell, you must know Anther's Call. Additionally, you must know one of Gar Zeng, Arc Light or Tingle. It will also cost three spell slots.

AC + one of (GZ, AL, Tingle)

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

I think that only works if you're that guild? While it would be helpful for maintaining the spell trees, I don't have a character in every guild to be able to do this.