At some point possibly, is the current answer. I believe it will retain a similar method and messaging theme but function a little differently. No exact details and its not written yet. Check DR 3.0 WM folders.

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The thing is we would then have 3 cyclics which pulse and 'hit everything'. Rimefang hitting at melee, RoS hitting at pole or melee + knockback, and FR hitting everything in the room. Surely some scaling can be made in terms of power, but having three cyclics that do very similar things is kind of wasteful. It'd be nice if Rimefang got kagiggered to do something else. Maybe make a reactive shield, similar to Holy Warrior that lashes at whatever hits the Warmie?

I dunno if they're different enough, but one of the stated goals of 3.0 was to reduce spell redundancy. Warmies have a number of spells that 'do the same thing', insofar as they are targeted spells that fall in similar power ranges and do some combination of slice, impact, or fire damage, and it means that once you have the next more powerful spell (CL) you just use that.

Creating more redundant spells is probably not on the agenda. I dunno though; maybe RoS will be the pole range knockback puncture damager, FR will be the room AoE fire impact damager, and Rimefang will be the melee range slice cold damager. :shrug:

I think having Rimefang be a reactive shield buff (i.e., not cyclic) would be a good solution.

I think Firerain moves with you now. So does RoS.

Ah, yeah, you're right; FR creates an in room object that pulses.

In anycase, since you don't have to shape it (I can't actually figure out how to make it hit PCs), recasting the spell is trivial.

I think those differences are similar to comparing Stone Fist to Stone Strike. Yes, there are a couple differences between the two, but they basically amount to the same gyst and spell.

But being cyclic, you won't be able to have all three up. That's the point; that being cyclic, they become somewhat redundant spells.

Well, I think i've put my two cents in at this point.

Personally I love the spell and would hate to see it go away. You seem to feel different.

Until a GM weighs in on its fate, going back and forth further prolly won't solve much.

Rehlyn

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It's not in 3.0 right now; unless I'm missing something, we don't know what what Rimefang will be in 3.0.