Just a hunch, but a floating weapon would be more in the realm of moon mages no?
No war mage spell or skill seems to manipulate non-elemental based items, but tkt does.
If anything we should have gotten something like moonblades, except with the elements.
a blade made of fire, wind, earth....power rings to summon forth captain planet.
Captain Planet just arrived
Planet says, "The power is yours"
Gauthos says, "Look...Planet...I don't think this is going to work for our guild."
Planet says, "What do you mean? I'm here to save the environment"
Gauthos says, "Hrm, well...I've talked it over with the grand council, and they don't believe your flamboyant libertarian propaganda speeches are indicative of the guild....not to mention those red spandex briefs..."
Planet exlaims, "And just what is wrong with these Environmentally sound Enviro-briefs?!"
Gauthos says, "C'mon buddy, do they really say "Warrior Mage?"
Planet says, "I did'nt see the dress code policy up on your "pink" arch there pal, plus they're edible, so that means less trash for elanthia"
Gauthos stammers
Gauthos exclaims "Bird Man!"
Planet blinks
Moments later Gauthos's familiar screeches from the sky and decapitates Planet. yummy.
Log taken from 45/29/3004
Sentai.
The O.G.
MEJE
DEARMANK
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 09:51 AM CDT
Couple things, first the Crossing Guild leader is Gauthus. Second while there is not currently a spell that can manipulate something to float, as masters of the elements I don't think it would be far fetched to be able to manipulate the air currents to cause something to float
Strangeguard Prayermaster
You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
Strangeguard Prayermaster
You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
MEJE
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 10:17 AM CDT
well theres air, sure.
and I suppose the room will be filled with water so it can lift up the sword?
Ok so the PC char gauthos and gauthus got me confused.
what else yu wanna troll?
Sentai.
The O.G.
and I suppose the room will be filled with water so it can lift up the sword?
Ok so the PC char gauthos and gauthus got me confused.
what else yu wanna troll?
Sentai.
The O.G.
DEARMANK
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 10:23 AM CDT
I don't understand why you're upset. Is it that unreasonable to think that we'd be able to lift a sword with air currents?
Strangeguard Prayermaster
You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
Strangeguard Prayermaster
You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
MEJE
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 10:25 AM CDT
not upset, but I just don't see it happening with one solitary element
Sentai.
The O.G.
Sentai.
The O.G.
WEILM
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 01:08 PM CDT
>>not upset, but I just don't see it happening with one solitary element
Why not? Air is acually a fairly powerful element, after all.
PW is strong enough that it can knock a full-sized opponent around a room.
Shockwave is strong enough that it can be used to knock anything on the ground into another room.
When and if flying ever comes to DR, it is almost certain to be an air-based spell, and strong enough to pick up a fully dressed (armed and armored) Warrior Mage and carry him around the Realms.
I don't see where it wouldn't be possible for an Air book spell to have a very similar effect to TKT, in picking up some onject in the room on an air stream and blast it at your opponent.
Or have a water geyser do something similar, or use electricity to charge an object and its target with opposite charges, and cause them to jump together in a pseudo-magnetic fashion.
A variant of MAB that uses objects on the ground instead of creating balls of earth.
Besides, from the original descriptions given us, there is no reason that an enchantment would be limited to a single element, consider the elemental mixes in the descriptions...
As a matter of fact, I believe Valdrik explicitly mentioned the possibility of dancing weapons during the seminar.
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Why not? Air is acually a fairly powerful element, after all.
PW is strong enough that it can knock a full-sized opponent around a room.
Shockwave is strong enough that it can be used to knock anything on the ground into another room.
When and if flying ever comes to DR, it is almost certain to be an air-based spell, and strong enough to pick up a fully dressed (armed and armored) Warrior Mage and carry him around the Realms.
I don't see where it wouldn't be possible for an Air book spell to have a very similar effect to TKT, in picking up some onject in the room on an air stream and blast it at your opponent.
Or have a water geyser do something similar, or use electricity to charge an object and its target with opposite charges, and cause them to jump together in a pseudo-magnetic fashion.
A variant of MAB that uses objects on the ground instead of creating balls of earth.
Besides, from the original descriptions given us, there is no reason that an enchantment would be limited to a single element, consider the elemental mixes in the descriptions...
As a matter of fact, I believe Valdrik explicitly mentioned the possibility of dancing weapons during the seminar.
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DEARMANK
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 01:36 PM CDT
>>Shockwave is strong enough that it can be used to knock anything on the ground into another room.
Shockwave is actually powerful enough to know everything into another room
Strangeguard Prayermaster
You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
Shockwave is actually powerful enough to know everything into another room
Strangeguard Prayermaster
You gesture at a sand sprite.
Its head soars through the air as its neck is entirely destroyed!
A sand sprite slowly falls to the ground, moaning in despair, shuddering in pain before taking her last breath.
DANFORDS2
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 03:40 PM CDT
From what I saw, it made me think our enchantments wouldn't be limited to Elemental. Siphon will let us take components out of any spell we see cast. At least, that's how I interpreted it. I don't keep up with it very closely, so it might have changed, but that was the impression I had.
Battlecaster Opieus ~ Human Warrior Mage
(Petitioning for a last name system for the Elanthians of new)
<<You hear your mental voice echo, I hear voices in my head constantly.>>
Battlecaster Opieus ~ Human Warrior Mage
(Petitioning for a last name system for the Elanthians of new)
<<You hear your mental voice echo, I hear voices in my head constantly.>>
BRFUQUOIS
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 05:04 PM CDT
If you're looking for an air spell to justify levetating an item, use YS.
>[YS] creates a cushion of air between your body and the armor you are wearing. This cushion of air will flow with your movements, supporting the armor and allowing you to move more freely.
It's reasonable to assume that you would be able to use a derivation of the same spell matrix to create a cushion of air underneath or around a weapon to make it fly/float.
You see Hissy Hhsar N'Tel, Cry Baby of Zoluren, a S'kra Mur.
~Diggity!~
>[YS] creates a cushion of air between your body and the armor you are wearing. This cushion of air will flow with your movements, supporting the armor and allowing you to move more freely.
It's reasonable to assume that you would be able to use a derivation of the same spell matrix to create a cushion of air underneath or around a weapon to make it fly/float.
You see Hissy Hhsar N'Tel, Cry Baby of Zoluren, a S'kra Mur.
~Diggity!~
LEIMOS
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 05:25 PM CDT
In case there is still any question as to weather or not air can make items "levitate" or fly, there are these little things called tornados and hurricanes that manage to levitate buildings, cars, people and easily throw small slivers of wood through concrete. ;)
I think there is some power there to be harnessed. A sufficiently powerful and controlled column of air should have no problem supporting a weapon.
Yes, the spelling of weather was intentional. Appropriate for the conversation I thought.
Aentori.
I think there is some power there to be harnessed. A sufficiently powerful and controlled column of air should have no problem supporting a weapon.
Yes, the spelling of weather was intentional. Appropriate for the conversation I thought.
Aentori.
STEVENSD8
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 05:31 PM CDT
<<Siphon will let us take components out of any spell we see cast. At least, that's how I interpreted it.>>
Last update we got said a new 50th ability (Patern Sight) would let us see the make up of a spell and use parts of it to create a different effect. We just have to wait to see what components can be taken from all the different spells.
Rigek
I warned you! But nooo you said it was just a harmless little bunny rabbit!
Last update we got said a new 50th ability (Patern Sight) would let us see the make up of a spell and use parts of it to create a different effect. We just have to wait to see what components can be taken from all the different spells.
Rigek
I warned you! But nooo you said it was just a harmless little bunny rabbit!
WIZARDBB
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/22/2005 08:25 PM CDT
1. We already have spells that effect air currents, magnetism, and velocity. Pick one or a few and I suppose you can come up with a way to make it work.
2. From what I've heard our enchanting isn't limited to only warmage spells. I'f a moonie can do it, we can syphon the sigil out and use it in our enchantments.
3. I don't want a dancing sword.
4. I want a mystical creature as a familiar that can cast spells. If it will make you happier I'll request that it can dance and hold a sword at the same time. Sound fair?
~Arcath
2. From what I've heard our enchanting isn't limited to only warmage spells. I'f a moonie can do it, we can syphon the sigil out and use it in our enchantments.
3. I don't want a dancing sword.
4. I want a mystical creature as a familiar that can cast spells. If it will make you happier I'll request that it can dance and hold a sword at the same time. Sound fair?
~Arcath
CIBISSUM
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/23/2005 04:05 AM CDT
<<When and if flying ever comes to DR, it is almost certain to be an air-based spell, and strong enough to pick up a fully dressed (armed and armored) Warrior Mage and carry him around the Realms.
I remember reading a book series that had elemental mages and the air mages had a fly spell. Problem was, the zephyrs of air have little control over flesh (semiparaphrased) so to them a fly spell was a tornado. And no, it wasn't a safe trip usually.
Jaert Lumanie
"When you're trying to decide whether to play it safe or go for the gusto, ask
yourself this simple question: 'How long am I going to be dead?'"
I remember reading a book series that had elemental mages and the air mages had a fly spell. Problem was, the zephyrs of air have little control over flesh (semiparaphrased) so to them a fly spell was a tornado. And no, it wasn't a safe trip usually.
Jaert Lumanie
"When you're trying to decide whether to play it safe or go for the gusto, ask
yourself this simple question: 'How long am I going to be dead?'"
WEILM
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/23/2005 04:39 AM CDT
>>I remember reading a book series that had elemental mages and the air mages had a fly spell. Problem was, the zephyrs of air have little control over flesh (semiparaphrased) so to them a fly spell was a tornado. And no, it wasn't a safe trip usually.
As compared to my vision, which borrows more from Storm of the X-Men, since she is, IMO, an almost stereotypical "Elemental Wizard".
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As compared to my vision, which borrows more from Storm of the X-Men, since she is, IMO, an almost stereotypical "Elemental Wizard".
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DRAQ
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/23/2005 04:56 AM CDT
>As compared to my vision, which borrows more from Storm of the X-Men, since she is, IMO, an almost stereotypical "Elemental Wizard".
I prefer Captain Planet. Can we have a Heart book? With like...Dark Heart of Incineration?
Steel.
OMG! YOU HAVE <insert ability here> YOU ARE OVERPOWERED! DIE, GUILD, DIE!
I prefer Captain Planet. Can we have a Heart book? With like...Dark Heart of Incineration?
Steel.
OMG! YOU HAVE <insert ability here> YOU ARE OVERPOWERED! DIE, GUILD, DIE!
MOD-WIXS
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/23/2005 01:35 PM CDT
When our powers combine... :)
On a more serious note, though, lets try to bring the discussion closer towards enchantment and further away from our favorite cartoon. We do have a whimsy folder, you know...
Thanks,
Wixs
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On a more serious note, though, lets try to bring the discussion closer towards enchantment and further away from our favorite cartoon. We do have a whimsy folder, you know...
Thanks,
Wixs
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PRAXIS
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/23/2005 01:57 PM CDT
>When our powers combine...
Wonder twin powers.... ACTIVATE!
Wonder twin powers.... ACTIVATE!
REALMWANDERER
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/23/2005 02:14 PM CDT
PW is strong enough that it can knock a full-sized opponent around a room. <--
It's a very useful spell, I actually one shot kill things with it quite often when messing around. Otherwise I use it to knock foes down and away while practicing knife throwing or archery.
Jim
"Men always want to be a woman's first love. Women have a more subtle instinct: What they like is to be a man's last romance. " Oscar Wilde
It's a very useful spell, I actually one shot kill things with it quite often when messing around. Otherwise I use it to knock foes down and away while practicing knife throwing or archery.
Jim
"Men always want to be a woman's first love. Women have a more subtle instinct: What they like is to be a man's last romance. " Oscar Wilde
DR-CHAKRAM
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/24/2005 01:14 AM CDT
Ya'll scare me.
-Chakram
"NVNC ID VIDES, NVNC NE VIDES"
"Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before" - Mae West
-Chakram
"NVNC ID VIDES, NVNC NE VIDES"
"Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before" - Mae West
BRFUQUOIS
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/24/2005 04:58 PM CDT
>Ya'll scare me
Oh yeah? Well so do our faces! Yeah!
You see Hissy Hhsar N'Tel, Cry Baby of Zoluren, a S'kra Mur.
~Diggity!~
Oh yeah? Well so do our faces! Yeah!
You see Hissy Hhsar N'Tel, Cry Baby of Zoluren, a S'kra Mur.
~Diggity!~
VANDER1
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/24/2005 08:02 PM CDT
Now i could be wrong. BUt with enchanting as it comes out. we are learning to see the patterns a spell is made of. Not just warrior mage spells. but other guilds spells as well.
If we stole a rune from a tkt spell we could definitly cause it to float.
I"d rather rather steal a spell bonding rune and a tkt rune to cause a dagger to fly back to my hands once i toss it. but using it to make a sentient blade the floats and fights on its own. i'm all for that to.
"Come for me now world, whilst I am weak. I shall prevail. Come at me world before I am strong, then witness my strength." ~Ecodom
If we stole a rune from a tkt spell we could definitly cause it to float.
I"d rather rather steal a spell bonding rune and a tkt rune to cause a dagger to fly back to my hands once i toss it. but using it to make a sentient blade the floats and fights on its own. i'm all for that to.
"Come for me now world, whilst I am weak. I shall prevail. Come at me world before I am strong, then witness my strength." ~Ecodom
FULTONJ1
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
08/24/2005 08:17 PM CDT
<<Now i could be wrong. BUt with enchanting as it comes out. we are learning to see the patterns a spell is made of. Not just warrior mage spells. but other guilds spells as well.
That was the plan two years ago. Who knows what it will be like two years from now.
Trebber
Your mech lore ranks could care less if the paper is blue or plain.
That was the plan two years ago. Who knows what it will be like two years from now.
Trebber
Your mech lore ranks could care less if the paper is blue or plain.
VANDER1
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
09/07/2005 05:25 AM CDT
Touche
"Come for me now world, whilst I am weak. I shall prevail. Come at me world before I am strong, then witness my strength." ~Ecodom
"Come for me now world, whilst I am weak. I shall prevail. Come at me world before I am strong, then witness my strength." ~Ecodom
BONE-CHEWER
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
11/15/2005 09:16 PM CST
Having the force to push something and the fine control of having it go where you want it are two very different things. We can all hurl a giant pike but not all of us can have it hit something.
To have enough force to blow a weapon away and concentrate the air currents so finely to have it go where you want it is so impossible that I'd find it hard to believe even in a fantasy setting. TKT on the otherhand is moving the object directly.
To have enough force to blow a weapon away and concentrate the air currents so finely to have it go where you want it is so impossible that I'd find it hard to believe even in a fantasy setting. TKT on the otherhand is moving the object directly.
BONE-CHEWER
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
11/15/2005 09:18 PM CST
By finely i mean.. like having it dancing... the older posts are gone but I assume someone wanted to have fine control over a floating blade, and not just a weapon that flies in a straight line.
WEILM
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
11/15/2005 11:51 PM CST
>>By finely i mean.. like having it dancing... the older posts are gone but I assume someone wanted to have fine control over a floating blade, and not just a weapon that flies in a straight line.
There is a difference between just shoving something with a blast of air, and having the control to wrap the item in a cocoon of air for finer control of it, but both should be possible, IMO, for the "Masters of the Elements".
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There is a difference between just shoving something with a blast of air, and having the control to wrap the item in a cocoon of air for finer control of it, but both should be possible, IMO, for the "Masters of the Elements".
~Kyn (Kynevon)
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BONECHEWER
Re: Why weapons won't be floating on their own
12/22/2005 03:39 PM CST
>There is a difference between just shoving something with a blast of air, and having the control to wrap the item in a cocoon of air for finer control of it, but both should be possible, IMO, for the "Masters of the Elements".
"Master" depends on the perspective. Anyone IRL with a Master's degree is a master in their field of study, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with the use of the word, it is used as intended. Compared to people who didn't go into that field, they ARE masters. Just because they're masters doesn't make them god super guru in the area, same thing with such fine control over air.
"Master" depends on the perspective. Anyone IRL with a Master's degree is a master in their field of study, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with the use of the word, it is used as intended. Compared to people who didn't go into that field, they ARE masters. Just because they're masters doesn't make them god super guru in the area, same thing with such fine control over air.
