I managed to get a min-prep Elision off on the second try with 275 Warding, Spec Luck, 100 Int, 92 Wis, and 68 Dis, and Warding Mastery.

It prevents you from being attacked physically. People and creatures who try just get RT from the attempt and you can watch them flail around with mirages and such. Amusing to watch. The peccaries I'm backtraining against were totally helpless, at-level black apes couldn't do much (see below).

Not sure if there's a contested check to overcome the spell, or it's just automatic since I'm probably rather overwhelming my opponents with stats.

It works with ranged attacks, by testing with a Thief and a stonebow. However, it only worked with FIRE. SNIPE and POACH carried through the attack, but I am well above my Thief, so I saw all the attacks and dodged effortlessly.

Also critters bypassed it with thrown attacks. However, going back to test thrown by Thief, he couldn't THROW, HURL, or LOB at me.


* Tentatively, a black ape throws an old bone at you. You evade, stepping aside.
The old bone lands nearby!
[You're solidly balanced with no advantage.]

A black ape snatches an old bone from the ground in a blur of motion and begins to look for a potential target.
The black ape begins to advance on you!
The black ape is still a distance away from you and is closing steadily.
The black ape closes to pole weapon range on you!
The black ape closes to melee range on you!
* Ineptly, a black ape throws an old bone at you. You dodge, leaping aside.
The old bone lands nearby!
[You're solidly balanced with no advantage.]
A black ape struggles to attack you in vain, busying itself with a mere figment.
A black ape struggles to attack you in vain, only managing to strike one of your mirror images.
A black ape snatches an old bone from the ground in a blur of motion and begins to look for a potential target.
A black ape digs into the earth for a moment before letting out a happy grunt upon finding an old bone!
A black ape struggles to attack you in vain, only managing to strike one of your mirror images.
A black ape struggles to attack you in vain. It stares right at you, yet cannot find you!
A black ape struggles to attack you in vain. It stares right at you, yet cannot find you!
A black ape struggles to attack you in vain, deceived by hallucinations of your making.


Naniaki Felyran

"I have faith in the current crop of GMs to not screw people over"

>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear

>>Not sure if there's a contested check to overcome the spell

Charm vs Will, attacker and defender reversed.

>>he could overcome Elision and attack with a weapon of any skill, but seemed to suffer greatly increased roundtime for it.

The increased roundtime was another bug that's now fixed.

GM Grejuva

>Possibly silly question, but if someone falls for the spell, do you have an opportunity for defensive exp?
>It's a really neat spell, and if it makes it so you can't learn defenses like you can while having things like MAF up, I could see it getting more mileage during invasions/quests/events/PvP than daily PvE.

In that regard, Whole Displacement might be a more apt analogy than Manifest Force. When you close off a large avenue of attack, it's okay for defensive training to suffer. Should it instead train Warding? Possibly, but that's a bigger discussion than Elision.

GM Grejuva

>In that regard, Whole Displacement might be a more apt analogy than Manifest Force.

This is what I thought of when I saw it's effects, but my volunteer attacker compared it probably more aptly to Innocence.

>I'll admit that my guess was Elision would be something that influenced the accuracy of attacks in a kinda/sorta vein of how CH influenced the damage of attacks, but didn't outright prevent that damage from even taking place.

The defender doesn't even get defense messaging that you had to defend, such as "blah blah combat scroll. Blah blah balance, blah winded, blah blah position bleh". It's awesome.

What's not awesome is that it will drain starlight aura per attack and when you run out of aura, the spell drops. I did not notice that until I went into my normal backtraining with it up with quite a duration left and noticed it fail early.

Naniaki Felyran

"I have faith in the current crop of GMs to not screw people over"

>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear

>The drain is proportional to SvS success. At extreme success, there's none.
>We could make the spell go dormant instead of dropping; I just assumed people wouldn't want every bit of their recovering starlight aura used up by random hits.

Eh, I'm fine with either.

Naniaki actually is very poorly set up for a Charm vs Will battle. For what you would expect from a 165th Trader, he has extremely poor Charisma (Charisma is, in fact, his lowest stat) and Discipline. Both have been on the short list for improvement for a while though as I find more reason to train them because of WO payouts and magic casting. I suppose, if I could throw more mana into the spell (eventually), it would also help, but that will be awhile yet for such an extremely difficult spell.

Also, I suppose, is the drain caused by effecting 3-4 critters whailing on the spell effect.

"I have faith in the current crop of GMs to not screw people over"

>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear