>>Regalia

I like the idea of starlight-magnifying armor, but it would either cost an extra slot or be a new metaspell. On a related note, several spell tweaks will be coming soonish, one of which should make Regalia refreshable.

>>What ever happened to that crafting helper summon thing that was being tossed around when trader magic was nearing completion? Is that dead, or still in dev?

It's still planned. There are just other Trader spells I'd like to write first.

>>Are the capstone abilities barriers to new trader spells, or would the requirements change? ie: 8 of 9 spells for enrichment rather than all spells.

The capstone prereqs might change up to a certain point.

>>Abilities

Although I'm not currently working on non-magic Trader systems, I'll happily say that there's another GM who is very interested in those and has already been getting their toes wet for some updates.

GM Grejuva

>>Any chance we could have the duration of enrichment looked at? I would ask for it to become a ritual or cyclic and only drain starlight on the initial cast.

Enrichment is far too powerful to ever be allowed full uptime. At best, a future possibility is to replace the starlight requirement with a strict cooldown.

GM Grejuva

While we're on the topic, a few additional QOL/usability requests/questions for when you're examining trader spells.

1. Can you let Trabe Chalice be replaced at any time? It already needs baby sitting since impact damage is so common, but we can't release it or replace it with an equal cast unless it's already gone.

2. Is it a bug for Mask of the Moons to trigger on a warrior mage's fissure?

3. Can starlight fuel AVA to remove the moon requirement? Probably no, but it never hurts to ask.

4. Can ARS automatically shift to the next target we're facing or go dormant if not facing anything?

5. Can we add a spamable augmentation spell in the 250-1000 range?

> Nope. It's even more frontloaded and efficient than Manifest Force, and making it refreshable would be problematic. We could slightly uptweak the self-repair rate, though.

That would help.

> I'm not observing this. Is there a log?

I don't have a log for fissure, but I'll see what I can reproduce. As an aside, and this one may be intentional, but here's response to zephyr:

>A gentle cool breeze continues to swirl around you.

>Your mask of sparkling tricolor moonsmoke intensifies and throws Stahgar's spell pattern out of control!

> It already can, to produce the brightness effect. We may make the starlight option provide both effects at once in a way that benefits the caster.

Is there a skill requirement, or am I just doing it wrong?

> I'm not very inclined to write spells just for training purposes. Doesn't Symbiosis help with that?

Fair point. I'm not sure what'll happen when I have a few hundred more ranks of magic, but we'll see when I get there.

>>4. Can ARS automatically shift to the next target we're facing or go dormant if not facing anything?

>Nope. At that point it just becomes a Starlight Sphere that is superior in every way. Arbiter's Stylus is the quickest cyclic in the game.

This is good to know. Although a part of me still wants to ask for some kind of lesser version of it that keeps going, because I'm used to my Bard/MM and recasting is so annoying! Alas.

A few other small bits of feedback:

- I never use Regalia because I can just buy/make better armor. I'd rather see this somehow boost what we're already wearing.

- Starlight aura/moons requirements are even more convoluted for this guild than for MMs, and it makes my eyes cross sometimes. A little more clarity in Discern would help a lot.

- I need to play with Avtalia Array a bit more, but this spell would be a lot more useful if there were some way (skill, spell, item, whatever) that let us focus on our cambrinth with no RT.


- Navesi

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>>There's no focus roundtime if you've invoked it first. But then you've invoked it, so that's no always helpful.

Right. My idea would be to focus without RT so I can see how much extra mana I have built up, and then invoke it for the right amount.


- Navesi

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You know, it would be interesting if you could daisychain your cambrinth via the array.

- Focus array would show you the sum of all camb you're wearing, 0 or 1 RT.

- Invoke array # would work like a single cambrinth, but it draws from the sum of all camb you're wearing.

>>You know, it would be interesting if you could daisychain your cambrinth via the array.

- Focus array would show you the sum of all camb you're wearing, 0 or 1 RT.

- Invoke array # would work like a single cambrinth, but it draws from the sum of all camb you're wearing.

I love this idea! While my main trader doesn't have the skill to control that much mana, several others do. It would be great to have a reason to do so.

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> Enrichment is far too powerful to ever be allowed full uptime. At best, a future possibility is to replace the starlight requirement with a strict cooldown.

So I've been playing with this spell a bit, and I can't figure out what I'm missing. Does it dramatically change at the upper end, because the power seems lack-luster as a constant effect, let alone with the massive starlight cost, which is still better than a straight up CD in this case.

Here's what I'm seeing.

- *AVA prep time*: -8 seconds on the prep, or -7 if you have the TM feat. Useful function, IMO. 6/10.
- - Basically turns AVA into the rough equivalent to a barbarian spell or thief khri. Almost like wildfire or hasten, but less useful since it seems to only affect the initial cast of a cyclic.
- - Still relies on a tertiary skillset to power it, and to do damage.
- - Only really takes effect when you prep the spell, which happens once per mob, at most.

- *TRC impact resistance*: Great feature for PvP or where you're fighting a boss mob. 8/10.
- - It still seems PvP centric. If you're getting hit enough that impact damage is the make or break in PvE then you're hunting way out of your league.
- - It's highly limited in PvE, since you have to know when the big hit is coming at least 30 seconds before it hits.
- - You can't "scream defiance" or "protect self" or otherwise quickly cast this spell to get the emergency benefit while you're in danger. If you're at that point, you're already dead or you're running, not casting.

- Starcrash: AOE spell now hits 3 targets instead of 2. 1/10.
- - Again, tertiary skill with hefty mana investment.
- - The trader AOE seems to be gimped out the gate to give it this improvement.
- - The starlight drain makes it not so great for farming purposes (why people primarily use AOE spells).
- - The other use is the rare invasion/quest, but due to the very hefty drain on enrichment, you're not casting the spell a lot before you're sidelined due to burning out of starlight.
- - To my knowledge, this is the only(?) AOE spell that hits less than three targets to begin with, and also the only AOE spell that has a secondary resource requirement to cast.

- Regalia: Gives +1 to the armor bonus to regalia. 0/10.
- - I'm sure this will get some love with the rewrites. This could could be amazing and iconic, but right now it's a cantrip and roughly equivalent to a warrior mage ability, just with less function, less competitiveness (PvE weapons generally aren't chosen for oomph), and way more risk/slot investment. The only reason to get this spell is for enrichment, which turns enrichment into a 7 slot ability.
- - If you're PvPing, you don't want your armor dispelled, or you need better.
- - If you're PvE'ing, your defenses are probably high enough that you have better static armor.
- - If you're farming, you don't care about armor.

- Avtalia Array 3x mana buff: Gives passive mana. That's good 5/10.
- - The mana buff is nice, but it's unreliable. There's a good chance you're capped out in cambrinth, if you wear a lot, or you lack the skill to effectively use the really big ones.
- - Most of your spells are still limited by starlight, which you're using a second, more unreliable mana pool.


I feel like I'm missing something. Can you help me figure out what this is?

>>For comparison, I want to point out a few of the other, high-slot spells roughly on par with this.

It's not because of the number of effects. Enriched TRC and Starcrash in particular simply cannot exist without heavy limitation. Enriched Regalia is already capable of full uptime because Enrichment is only checked at the time of armor creation. The other effects could, theoretically, be tuned for higher uptime should they be separated from Enrichment.

>>[Starcrash] is the only(?) AOE spell that hits less than three targets

Given how fast it pulses (on random targets each time), that only means it reaches its full potential at 2-3 targets rather than a regular AoE's 6 targets. Perhaps it isn't apparent with lower mana casts, but a capped Starcrash, even without Enrichment, is one of the highest DPS spells in the game overall, and rivaled by none at 2-3 targets. That said, the mana cost will be coming down.

GM Grejuva