Yeah, I have no objection to engaging thieves in a much deeper capacity. When I start working on the smuggling aspects of things, I'll see what I can do about finding fun ways to integrate thieves.

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

>Yeah, I have no objection to engaging thieves in a much deeper capacity. When I start working on the smuggling aspects of things, I'll see what I can do about finding fun ways to integrate thieves.

Thank you.
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Victory Over Lyras, on the 397th year and 156 days since the Victory of Lanival the Redeemer.

>>First, the islands need stables. There are none out there right now.

Caravan stables could probably be arranged.

>>Secondly, plans to let us use player owned boats to transport goods? I think right now that caravans cannot get on them.

We'll see. Probably not immediately, but I'm not sure. You can still take public transportation, right?

>>What would be great is tinkering items that help hide stuff that could be added to caravans. Secret compartments and such.

Agreed :)

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

I can take my caravan on a player owned ships all the time. Also on the ones from Riverhaven to Langenfirth that you can rent.

Regards,

Sortny/Braunwen

>>I can take my caravan on a player owned ships all the time. Also on the ones from Riverhaven to Langenfirth that you can rent.

I could of swore that the rented from Riv to Lang you could not, but hey. This is good to know, but has anyone ever tried on the different ships to and between the islands? Should be same mechanics, but this is DR.

Abison

<< i'll reiterate that the kreg stables are broken

Unless I've misunderstood something, the stables on the islands are NOT broken. The stables there were never meant for regular caravans to be stabled. They were there for kregkeirals that Traders could use on the islands. This was a decision made long before I was on staff but I know a bit of why the 'kregs' were used on the islands instead of caravans.

While I won't go into all the reasons, one of them was that contract trading was never setup on the islands due to issues with being able to make it worthwhile. Travel time from the NPC ships was long and by the time you made it from one island to the next, you would definitely be clear and wanting. There was also the events around Trading and the islands that finally resolved with Imaar maneuvering back to the islands.

This is not to say that we won't have caravans on the islands at some point, though there will be a few 'adjustments' that need to be made behind the scenes to allow it.

Best Regards,
~GM Arnimas

"Wealth is not his that has it, but his who enjoys it."
-Benjamin Franklin

<< the sign at the kreg stable says it will stable trader pack animals IN ADDITION to kregs

>read sign
Surlaenis Kregkeirel Stable

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~ ~
~ We offer secure stabling facilities for Trader pack ~
~ animals and their goods. We also rent kregkeirels to ~
~ Traders who have sufficient standing with the guild to ~
~ be trusted with them. ~

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~ ~
~ FEES ~
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~ RENTAL - 200 lirums ~
~ STABLING - 200 lirums (per day) ~
~ There is also a fee if your kregkeirel needs grooming. ~
~ (To stable your animal, simply PAY the STABLEMAN) ~
~ ~
~ (To retrieve a stabled animal, type RETURN KREGKEIREL) ~
~ If your animal is not carrying any goods, you can simply ~
~ RETURN it to the stableman. ~
~ ~

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In this sign, 'pack animal' is referring to the kregkeirels. This isn't me arguing, just explaining what was originally intended. No one should be able to stable a mule, yak or caravan here at all. A kregkeirel is a pack animal, it looks like a llama. If others find this sign confusing, I can change it but the term 'kregkeirel' was a bit different, so the sign was setup to mention pack animals so no one would think a kregkeirel was a wagon or something else.

You are correct in that if you own a POC, then you can't rent a kregkeirel. The reason is because you could store many items on your POC, then go to Aesry and store more on a kregkeirel as well. Allowing rental of both just isn't feasible. Once GM Socharis gets commodities closer to being ready, we'll decide what is to be done with kregs.

Best Regards,
~GM Arnimas

"Wealth is not his that has it, but his who enjoys it."
-Benjamin Franklin

in my search for more tests, i tried to rent a standard pack animal, and found out the clerk wont even rent me that, and for a more specific reason : i own a poc.

the trading clerk's statement was much more specific and clear than the kreg stablemaster's statement.

anyways, i'm sure that i dont have to mention that i think that this is silly, but i see why you wouldn't consider it broken... its purposely coded that way i guess.

<< on the other hand, i probably do sound like i'm arguing, but i really don't mean to be.

No, not at all. You and everyone else has been very civil on the boards. I can see what you mean in regards to kregs and having a POC turned into a clerk. While I could correct this, it will take a bit. Some changes that are planned could be affected by my tinkering. It may also be an easier solution to just allow caravans in general on the islands soon. We'll do some discussions behind the scenes and see which sounds best. Originally, I had planned on all POC's needing to be stored in stables but changed my mind near the end to allow them to be returned to stables if the box was empty for everyone's convenience and to save you all a few coins. :)

<< I'm not sure if mine is a POC or not, I don't have an interior room, only a bumper sticker on my caravan.

Yeah, any caravan that has been customized in any way is a considered a POC. It is stored as a POC at that point and uses some other 'resources' at that point.

Best Regards,
~GM Arnimas

"Wealth is not his that has it, but his who enjoys it."
-Benjamin Franklin

>whatever you do, if you do anything, do know that some traders love to take their caravan's everywhere, not just on the routes

an asaren celpeze has arrived.
an asaren celpeze begins to advance on a sturdy caravan.
an asaren celpeze closes to missile range on a sturdy caravan.
an asaren celpeze closes to melee range on a sturdy caravan.
*Moving like a whirlwind, an asaren celpeze claws a claw at a sturdy caravan. The claw land an apocalyptic strike (so that's what it felt like when Grazhir shattered) that cleaves its foe in two.
a sturdy caravan breaks apart into kindling.

>'NOOOOOOO!!
You exclaim, "NOOOOOOO!!"

Naniaki

>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear